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  1. On Y&R Nikki acquired Dylan. Supposedly she was impregnated while in a cult. We saw the cult storyline and I think Melody Thomas Scott had a few months break (was she on maternity leave IRL?) but there was never any indication that she was pregnant or had a child by Paul.

    That story would have worked better for Paul and another cult member. It's much easier for men to have unknown children-as witnessed by so many soap men having children turn up.

    Stephanie on Search for Tomorrow acquired Brian Emerson after years on the show .

    Kim (and Bob) on ATWT acquired Sabrina,supposedly dead at birth but actually spirited away. Doug Marland always claimed his retcons fitted history but that was a stretch.

    Sharon on Y&R discovered that she actually had twins so they could bring Camryn Grimes back to the show and have a daughter for Sharon to interact with.

  2. Another trend that began in the 80's was the Serial Killer story.

    Maybe a reflection of the serial killer gaining attention in the media.

    Previously there had been murders, but not (seemingly) randon killings.

    Even Edge of night had not gone down that route I think.

    I believe Pat Falken Smith began it on Days of Our Lives with the Salem Strangler.

    It was attention getting, well written and suspenseful. 

    But then other shows jumped on the bandwagon. Days itself followed up soon after with the Salem slasher , Another World had the Sin Stalker and Santa Barbara the Carnation Killer. 

    It became a quick go to to create suspense and kill off a few unwanted characters.

  3. What characters do you recall that for various soapy reasons had to dress in drag or assume some sort of disguise?

    The drag aspect was supposed to be amusing for the most part and a lot of the 'disguises' were often unconvincing. 

    Discuss and any pics if possible...

    Most recently Phyllis on Y&R donned a disguise to attend her own memorial service.

    Y&R's Michelle Stafford/Phyllis memorial disguise mashup

     

  4. 1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

    I still think the best route for Chance is to start his own high end PI business. 

    Yes, rather than  shoehorning everyone into business stories that seem to consist of mergers, takeovers and job swapping.

    Whatever happened to the Newman Media podcasts that were going to shake up the industry?

    Chance as a PI would give him more flexibility and logic  to be sitting around cafes and restaurants (as the possibility of him having an office or staff would be nil)

    It worked for Paul as he had the office, Lynne, Nathan etc and his job could be utilized where necessary-otherwise he was involved in cases we didn't need to see onscreen.

  5. 3 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

    No Colleen today after Friday cliffhanger.

    That's crazy. I thought it was Soap 101 to follow through on a Friday cliffhanger on Monday's show.

    That story is getting the most attention Y&R has had in years. So to tune in and see Jill and Nina at Crimson Lights isn't enough.

    BTW Love Tricia but that drab dyed hair does nothing for her.

    And I hate seeing Jill in those dull outfits. Jill needs to be glam at all times.

  6. 18 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

    One of the show’s hottest love stories was between Diedre Hall and Wayne Northrop, but Northrup left last year. Rabin said the audience refused to accept him. “Wayne was her second love on the show,” he said, “and it was a real struggle to get the audience to believe she could fall in love with a second guy.

    I was puzzled when I read that, but I think he means at first the audience didn't like Roman. They were used to Don and Marlena and saw all the plot complications as a means to eventually re-uniting D&M.

    The Don/Marlena fans may have been very vocal (lots of mail/phone calls) and Rabin recalls that reaction...which quickly subsided.

  7. 4 March 1994 

    This surely would have strong soap elements and continuing stories if not strictly a serial.

    Elizabeth Taylor may be bringing her big-screen movie glamour to television as star of a new series, "Daughters of Eve." Paramount Television Group is negotiating with Taylor to make her first continuing primetime TV role in the dramatic series now under development, said a company spokesman. In the series, Taylor would play a wealthy woman with a past whose three daughters are now creating their own splash in New York, London and Paris society. Taylor, who did a brief acting stint in 1981 on the daytime serial "General Hospital," would be paid close to $125,000 per episode, the trade paper Daily Variety reported Thursday.

  8. Press-Tribune (Roseville) 20 November 1981

    Although it may bring to mind movie plots of the "understudy saving the show," it was very real when "Search for Tomorrow" was off on location last month taping scenes in romantic, mysterious Hong Kong (for airing within regular episodes of the serial  continuing through December.)

    An Oriental actor, scheduled to tape a few scenes with series stars Sherry Mathis and Rod Arrants (as Liza and Travis Sentell), was unable to appear at the last minute, and a replacement was needed immediately. Series producer Robert Getz stepped in and played the role, appearing as calligraphy expert Mr. Wu.

    Slick Jones had Peter Yoshida in the role so I wonder if they retaped?

  9. San Bernardino Sun 27 July 1983

    "The Hamptons," on ABC at 9 p.m. today, sounds like the result of a class theme project at an Eastern boarding school on "What my parents did this summer." This new series is a five-part, prime-time sudser under the steerage of executive producer Gloria Monty, the woman who added zip and zest to daytime soap "General Hospital." It aspires to be an East Coast answer to "Dynasty," but lacks the style and production budget of that hit serial 

    Set in East Hampton, Long Island's answer to Palm Beach, the action revolves around the passions and intrigues of a pair of supposedly oldline Eastern Establishment families. In reality, the production gives us what yearround residents of the Hamptons, Martha's Vineyard and even the Jersey shore will instantly recognize as summer people. They're the chic, aspiring, self-anointed beautiful people who save courtesy and consideration for their own kind. "The Hamptons" echoes this same self-absorption and unspoken disdain for the common run of prime-time television fare while being much more presumptious and shallow than the average series.

    TV soap queen, Monty, is force behind series. She is one of the most important people in television, a source of great financial pleasure for ABC. But many people have never seen or heard of her. This is Gloria Monty, one of ABC's soap-opera bosses. Monty is the producer of "General Hospital," the most-watched show on daytime TV. She's the producer of "The Hamptons," which begins an experimental summer-time run tonight. In 1978, Monty was chosen to revamp "General Hospital," which was doing poorly. She changed its style, throwing in action. She tightened the pace. And she aimed younger. "Our stories became more upbeat. There's a lot of youthful optimism." The result was a No. 1 daytime hit. So Gloria Monty has become an important figure In network TV. She has a fresh three-year contract and a chance to try a summertime experiment.

    What we end up with is standard serial fare characters and situations that could be plunked down anywhere, be it the Hamptons or Fire Island, and nobody will notice the difference or care. In fact, both the production and audience might be more comfortable if it did take place on Fire Island. As it stands, "The Hamptons" is a strange hybrid. It is faster paced, somewhat less talky than daytime soaps. It also is not as glossy or smooth as prime-time serials. Ambition, greed and lust which, on this show, may end up all being the same thing are the motivators trotted out for tonight's premiere of the Chadway and the Duncan-Mortimer families, the dynastic owners of a prestigious department store chain. Michael Goodwin plays Peter Chadway, the somewhat egalitarian managing director of the store. Leigh Taylor-Young is his sensuous wife Lee. Bibi Bersch is Adrienne Duncan-Mortimer, sole heir to the Duncan half of the empire. John Riley is her younger, social-climbing husband Jay, who has manuevered himself into presidency of the store. The episode's dramatic catalyst is the hospitalization after a serious stroke of Goodwin's father, co"The Hamptons" has a budget that's not primetime "I'd say it's quite a bit less," Monty says frankly but is above daytime  levels. It has a couple of modestly known stars (Leigh Taylor-Young and Bibi Besch) and was filmed on location, not in a studio. The attraction, Monty says, will be the mood of the Hamptons and the intrigue of business and romance. There also will be sex, of course. Appropriately, Monty says it will be in the newer style. "We have younger people in the cast, so we have a different kind of sex. It's more eager, friskier." 

  10. thanks @j swift

    Another 80's trend was the use of guest stars, either playing themselves or one off roles.

    eg Zsa Zsa Gabor on ATWT, Imogene Coca on ATWT/OLTL,Milton Berle  on GH etc

    Usually past their prime movie and TV stars. 

    I'm sure we can offer up many more examples. They did guarantee a certain amount of publicity.

  11. Producer of ‘Days of Our Lives reflects on his 11 years with show

    By JERRY BUCK AP Television Writer

    LOS ANGELES (AP) - Al Rabin stood in the rear of the control room, one eye on the director talk - ing the actors through a scene by microphone, the other on a bank of monitors showing the results from the nearby sound stage. “Cue music,” said director Susan Simon. The music came up and actors Peter Reckell and Kristian Alfonso, rummaging through an attic set looking for family mementos, appeared on a half dozen screens. They were taping the NBC daytime soap opera “Days of Our Lives,” which will present its 5,000 th show Friday.

    On Nov. 6, the serial will celebrate 20 years on the air. Miss Simon, one of the show’s four directors, stopped the action. She leafed through the script and said, “Let’s go, page 46.” They tried again and Reckell flubbed his line. Before she could start the scene again, producer Rabin interrupted. “Can you convey to them to play the scene with more joy and mirth’’” Miss Simon relayed the message. Earlier, in his second-floor office, overlooking a narrow studio street, Rabin had talked about how “Days of Our Lives” had changed since its debut in 1965. “The show started as a half hour and then expanded to an hour,” said Rabin, whose full beard is turning gray He joined the serial 11 years ago as a director and producer. As he talked a TV set with the volume turned down displayed a feed from the sound stage. "Things moved a lot slower in those days. They walked into the kitchen and sat and had tea and talked about what was happening with the family. When we first went to an hour we had seven actors and did about 11 scenes. That was nice, but it wouldn’t work today Now we have about 25 actors and do up to 30 scenes The pace is much faster and it has the look of an action-adventure show. “Before, it was talk, talk, talk The doorbell rings. It’s someone’s lover. The scene ends. Then a new scene and more talk, talk talk. Now, we’d switch back and forth between scenes. Keep it moving. We always have five or six stories going at once.

    The audience may like one story and not another, but they will get a few stories every day that they like. “One thing has never changed,” Rabin said. “To me, what makes every show work is that there’s always a love story. Generally, a couple trying to get together, and the appeal of that couple and how they relate to the audience. The intensity they have with the show is to me directly relatable to the success of the show. How you make it work is at least 50 percent luck." Rabin walked over to the TV set and pointed to the screen. “That’s the Horton couple,” he said. “Frances Reid is now a matriarch. She’s been with the show from the beginning. So have Macdonald Carey (who plays her husband) and John Clarke (who plays their son).” Besides those actors, director Joe Behar and cameraman George Meyers have been with the show 20 years. Another couple appeared “That’s Bo and Hope, played by Peter Reckell and Kristian Alfonso,” Rabin said. “They’re just back from London, where they got married. They’re a hot young couple. We try to keep the feeling of family and romance and a love story. . . . “We’ve been lucky,” he continued. “We’ve had four or five hot love stories. Charles Shaughnessy came on as a day player. We saw something when he played with Patsy Pease. If you have ability, it’s to find that little moment. We showed the tape to the writers and they changed him from a bad guy to an undercover agent. They’ve been a huge success. Now our job is to keep them apart.

    “John de Lancie came on as a psychopathic killer 3 years ago. He was only supposed to be on a few weeks. Now he’s an eccentric love interest who thinks he’s a psychopathic killer He’s comedy relief. This is the first soap I’ve been involved in that has a comic love story.”

    One of the show’s hottest love stories was between Diedre Hall and Wayne Northrop, but Northrup left last year. Rabin said the audience refused to accept him. “Wayne was her second love on the show,” he said, “and it was a real struggle to get the audience to believe she could fall in love with a second guy.

  12. Guiding Light’ writer looks for fresh ideas  Desert Sun 22 December 1983

    By TOM JORY Associated Press Writer

    NEW YORK (AP) - “Guiding Light” has been a daytime companion for millions since 1937, starting on radio and switching to TV after 15 years. Can anything new, really new, ever happen to the Bauers or the Reardons or any of the other folks in Springfield? “I get really upset,” says Pamela Long Hammer, principal writer for the CBS soap opera since March, “because I’ll come up with this neat scenario and someone will say, ‘That’s like “Strangers on a Train.’” “I think, ‘They keep stealing my material.’ “The way I figure it,” she says, “there are only so many stories in the world.

    It’s the characters who keep the show new and exciting. All of our stories come from them: I don’t come up with a plot, and then work a character into it.” Continuity is important. Someone out there surely knows all that’s happened, to everyone on the show, in 46 years. How about Miss Long Hammer? "Nope. I care about what our core families have been doing,” she says. “I’m always interested in what happened to Bert Bauer (played since 1950 by Charita Bauer) 20 years ago, but as far as going back and reading scripts, no. “Others on the show keep track,” she says. “I’ll suggest something, and be told, ‘You don’t remember, but five years ago, they had this terrible fight. They would never speak to one another now.”’

    Miss Long Hammer, a former Miss Alabama who came to New York as an aspiring actress in 1980, began writing for daytime television while playing Ashley on NBC’s “Texas.” She eventually wrote herself out of the story. Her staff for “Guiding Light” includes nine writers, among them her husband, Charles Jay Hammer, whom she met while both worked on “Texas.” NBC dropped “Texas” after two seasons, and episodes from the serial currently are being rerun on the Turner Broadcasting System’s cable-TV SuperStation, WTBS.

    Gail Kobe, who was executive producer of “Texas,” now has the same job on “Guiding Light.” And Beverlee McKinsey, who played Iris Carrington in “Another World” on NBC, and later in "Texas,” will join the Light” cast of the CBS soap in February. Miss Long Hammer is reponsible for the long-term story, which can mean looking ahead 18 months or more. Staff writers deal with specifics, including the scripts for individual episodes. She says she draws on “imagination and instinct” for the “Guiding Light” story. Often, that involves inventing new characters. “‘I look at Vanessa (Maeve Kinkead), one of our leading ladies,” Miss Long Hammer says. "What could make the audience care more about her? “Then I think, ‘Why can’t she find a man she can love, who will also love her?’ Voila, here comes Billy Lewis (Jordan Clarke). “Another example,” she says, “is Alan Spaulding (Christopher Bernau). All of a sudden, he’s got a sister no one ever knew about. “They come complete,” says Miss Long Hammer of the serial’s characters, including the new ones. “We know who they are and where they came from long before the viewer gets all that information. That’s one of the most interesting things about daytime, the complexities of the characters.”

    The writers make a big effort to keep the show contemporary, and four of the leading players are in their late teens or early 20s Judi Evans, who plays Beth Raines, Kristi Tasreau (Mindy Lewis), Grant Alcksander (Philip Spaulding) and Michael O’Leary (Rick Bauer). “Guiding Light,” longevity notwithstanding, is a moderate success by that ultimate yardstick of the industry; ratings. The show is behind only “General Hospital,” “All My Children” and “One Life to Live,” all on ABC, and CBS’ “The Young and the Restless,” among soaps. And Miss Long Hammer says she’s convinced writing is the key to even greater achievement. “When I say I love the characters, it’s not a light thing,” she says. “I think what the audience senses is an enthusiasm and an energy among the people who do the show.”

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