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Dr. Lee_____ Sanderson      Gwyda DonHowe  Working with Dan Walton on out of town project,keeps secret that he has a terminal illness        Oct 25 1971- 1972 

Marion Kincaid Sylvia Field 1951

Joanne Barron Margaret Draper (temp replacement for Mary Stuart) July 1952

August 61 Larry Hagman Joan Harvey John Larkin. 

Young marrieds Bob and Lisa with Chris and Nancy in the background

Some FITW publicity shots

Jacqueline Brooks

Maggie Hayes

Lenka Peterson

Kathleen McGuire

Norman 'Dack' Rambo as he appeared in Never Too Young

GUIDING LIGHT

Cindy Adams    Cindy Adams  12/9 & 12/12/1995         Gossip Columnist accompanied Fletcher to charity ball.

Well I suppose a cellar would survive a fire. But keeping Jordan imprisoned is another mark against Victor, although by this stage it doesn't matter anymore. 

Victor could drop a bomb on GC and still go unpunished.

Jordan stole a baby and is villified. Victor replaces Jack with a double and the two are working together like old pals. Go figure...

Caught a bit of Traci and wish they wouldn't give her such corny lines. We know Traci has a big heart etc but in the scenes with Jack and then Danny she was just blathering on about how wonderful they are. It comes off as too needy.

Beth deserves better than that. And I wish she would ditch the old lady hair do!

Were the cousins established from the outset or just written in ?

I would hope the former as Labine/Meyer seemed to have a comprehensive backstory/bible. It's always smart to have some characters available for down the track.

I never found Richard Backus particularly appealing. He never got a long lasting role.

Maybe a different actor could have made Barry work better?

I know at one point ABC daytime used focus groups a lot to dictate storyline, but I imagine those days are long gone, so I wonder who is pushing that a 60 plus actor has to be a lead. Especially when the character is a criminal.

Surely they should be pushing younger actors, as happened in the past, and let the older veterans move into a more supporting role.

It seems GH can't move on from what was working 20 years ago.

@DRW50The only actor I recognized was a young Douglass Watson as the Private.

@Khan thanks for that, very interesting!

Nice to have something new on FITW

A Pioneer Of Pioneers by William Hyder baltimore Sun Sun 17 Jan 1965

A BALTIMORE-BORN actress is a regular on ABC-TV's new day-time serial "Flame in the Wind." Ironically, the show is not being carried in her home town. But Baltimoreans who can pick up Washington's Channel 7 can see Margaret Hayes weekdays at 2 P.M. in the role of Roxanne Reynolds. Miss Hayes, who is sometimes billed as Maggie Hayes, is the daughter of the late J. L.Ottenheimer. Nominally an insurance broker, Mr. Ottenheimer was a performer at heart. He spent much of his time organizing talent shows and taking them to hospitals, institutions and U.S.O. clubs.

In the early days of radio he headed a local show called "Jack Ottenheimer and His Gang," writing the songs and skits himself. Growing up in this atmosphere, his daughter Florette took naturally to the stage. She gave her first performance at School No. 64, Garrison and Maine avenues, and continued acting in school shows at Forest Park High School and the Teachers' College of the Johns Hopkins University. At the Hopkins she was one of the first girls to appear with the Barnstormers, who for years had barred female performers.

After a period of modeling in New York, during which she worked in three short-lived Broadway plays, Florette was signed by producer Hal Wallis to a Warner Brothers contract. Under the name of Dana Dale she made her screen debut in 1940 in "The Man Who Talked Too Much," a movie starring George Brent and Virginia Bruce. Her second picture was "The Letter," which starred Bette Davis. More small parts followed at Warners' and later at Paramount, where she was given the professional name she still uses.

But the newly-christened Margaret Hayes soon felt the need of more stage experience. Returning East she toured in "Jane Eyre," "Laura" and "The Philadelphia Story," and appeared on Broadway in two George Abbott shows and starred as Jo in a City Center production of "Little Women." In the late Forties Miss Hayes married Herbert Bayard Swope, Jr., a producer-director in the theater and television. TV was mushrooming at the time. Hundreds of live dramas and comedies were being produced in New York. Miss Hayes was soon caught up in the stream.

She starred in more than 200 teleplays, including the first drama in the long-running "Circle Theater" series. This is the period everyone calls TV's pioneering days, but as a radio performer Miss Hayes outpioneered the pioneers. She had worked in TV as early as 1939, appearing on an experimental program. In 1955 Miss Hayes returned to Hollywood to appear with Glenn Ford in the movie version of "The Blackboard Jungle." Other films followed. By this time TV production had largely shifted to California, and once more Miss Hayes found herself in the thick of the medium.

She acted on most of the big shows. Miss Hayes and Mr. Swope make their permanent home in New York. They have a son, Herbert 3d, age 15, and a daughter, Tracy, age 12. Tracy is named after Miss Hayes's favorite stage role, Tracy Lord in "The Philadelphia Story.".

And Meg (along with Nick Benedict) was the first soap 'name' to be brought onto Y&R.

Nick had the housing project but that was never dealt with .

Trouble is in addition to Josh's crappy writing they can't afford to bring in sets and characters that might provide an appropriate story for Nick. Maybe some sort of social issue thing where he helps a struggling family etc

He just doesn't work as a NE exec.

That downgrading of guest stars was obviously a budget thing.

Were there any MSW episodes that 'broke the mold' eg went against the formula in any way?

Requests

Rex Everhart

Tony Carlin

Mike Hodge

James Noah

Steve and Liza were super popular in the mid 70's.

Did Angela's 'face refresh' coincide with the NY move?

3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

There was something in the water on the set of 70’s Search For Tomorrow  - Millee Taggart, Courtney Simon, and Meg Bennett all went on to have notable writing careers on the soaps. 

And Lewis Arlt.

Meg did a great job as Julia (combo of the actress and Bill Bell's writing) She could have come off as a victim/damsel in distress but imbued the character with an inner resolve that allowed us to forgive Victor just as she had.

And bringing on Julia's daughter Jamie at some point would have been a nice gesture.

@FrenchFan Your efforts and willingness to share are much appreciated. The 1960's soap era is not well documented and much misinformation has been printed and reprinted, so these scripts are the only way of getting true info.

Thinking about Sara, she was GL's first woman doctor-a sign of the times.

ATWT had Susan around this time also. TD had lead the way with Maggie and Althea and Days had Laura.

Patricia Roe would have been playing Sara at this time- she continued throughout 68 until Millette Alexander too over.

I wonder what the circumstances were? 

Was it a case of Millette wrapping up her EON stint and GL grabbed her and decided to replace Roe? Nowadays we have so much more info on this sort of stuff.

The Ferros only lasted about a year. They had to follow Agnes' long run. I wonder if their stories were well received ? Maybe not...

Bonanza NBC /Big Valley ABC

Bonanza- Ben Cartwright, a widower, along with his three sons, Joe, Adam and Hoss, faces several difficulties as they run their large ranch while also assisting the neighboring community.

Big Valley - Victoria Barkley, a widow, and her family tackle various problems while living on a ranch in California's San Joaquin Valley.

Bonanza was #1 when BV came along so why not imitate ?

10 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Bryton says in this interview that Sheila Duckworth was on the set to see how they run things 

I hope it's just the day to day operations thing lol

 

Exactly!

Otherwise The Gates will have awful production values and stories that seemed made up as they go along.

I'd always assumed that killing off Robin was Irna's doing when she came back, but this was all before her return.

I guess Gillian Spencer wanted to leave as she never stayed beyond her original contracts - see OLTL and ATWT. Same with AMC but she did return, something she couldn't do at the other shows.

So perhaps they decided yet another recast was unwise and they had got 10 years out of the character-she had no relatives and a death would be dramatic, so goodbye Robin.

Re Sara and the engagement to Paul, about 10 years later Justin turned up with a similar backstory of a romance with Sara back in the day. She did well on the never mentioned past romance retcons.

@FrenchFan thank you so much for continuing to share these gems.

The Paul/Sara engagement from the 50's was a retcon by the Ferro's I think. Pretty sure Paul was established as a loner who never had time for women when he was introduced. That changed when he met Anne.