Paul Raven

i don't know why they are bothering with Heather. Just write her off and a lot of convoluted story goes with her.

There are other past characters more deserving of onscreen time than a recast Heather.

Malibu Pt 1 was up against the premiere of The A Team Sunday @9.

The A Team was 5th 23.0/35 while Malibu had to settle for 18.9/29 ,ranking in the mid 20's.

The next night Malibu improved to 13th  21.0/31.

@Reverend Ruthledge Thanks for that info

Another question-

Robin accepted Mark as her father and he formally adopted her. I know she resented his marriage to Ruth but Mark was steadfast in standing by her. But Mark and Ruth left town at some point. . Was he on good terms with Robin,or decided that he had to leave things as they were?

Were Mark and Ruth still in town at the time of Karl's death (July 12) If not why not and if so why were they not at the inquest?

The Reporter Fond du Lac Wisconsin March 30 1988

'Young, Restless' alive, thriving at 15 " By JERRY BUCK AP Television Writer 

Soap opera mogul Bill Bell had a producer on the phone, was doing running commentary on the action on two TV monitors, and was adroitly fielding questions on the 15th anniversary of "The Young and the Restless." Bell looked deceptively calm in the eye of the storm, but it was Bell generating the hurricane whirling about his penthouse office atop CBS' Television City. He is the executive producer, head writer and co-creator, with his wife, Lee Phillip Bell, of "The Young and the Restless" and "The Bold and the Beautiful. At 15, "Y&R " as he usually calls it, is running neck and neck in the Nielsen ratings with ABC's "General Hospital as the most popular daytime show. "The Bold and the Beautiful," which just passed its  first anniversary, was in ninth place in the ra tings.

I think we brought a new approach to daytime programming because we featured young people Bell said of Y&R . "Its a very contemporary show and we make good use of music and closeups in ways that hadn't been  used before. Our stories are provocative.

I won't say sensual because that would give the wrong impression, but sometimes they are." Bell said he is in good shape to weather the strike of the Writers Guild of America, provided it's settled soon. He has scripts for six weeks of "The Young and the Restless" and five weeks of "The Bold and the Beautiful." In addition, he has several weeks of shows already taped. They are taped far in advance to get them overseas. As he talked to his visitor, Bell relayed instructions to producers on the sets and commented on the taping and the actors on the screen. Bell watched a young actor on the monitor for "The Bold and the Beautiful." The actor was Ethan Wayne, the son of late film legend John Wayne.

"Can you think of a better place for a young actor to train? ,Bell asked. "They get new material every day, filled with conflicts and romance, and they get stretched every way possible." Later, daughter Lauralee Bell came on the screen. She plays Cricket on "Y&R." One son, Bradley, is a script writer, and another, Bill, runs business affairs for "The Bold and the Beautiful."

Bell, a former Chicago advertising executive and writer for other daytime serials, was lured away from his job as head writer of NBC's "Days of Our Lives" to create a new show for CBS. "Fred Silverman was the head of CBS programming then and he paid me more to quit 'Days of Our Lives' than I was getting paid to do it," he said. "Lee had her own show in Chicago and I went back to Chicago.

There we were staring at a blank sheet of paper. We did 70 pages, which took the story through the first two years." Soap operas are difficult to establish because viewers are reluctant to break their viewing habits. Bell had hoped that "The Young and the Restless" would make a breakthrough, but when the ratings failed to climb he grew impatient and asked CBS to take it off the air. "It wasn't doing as well as I thought it should, he said. "But Fred Silverman showed me ratings figures that convinced me to stay with it.

It took the show a year and a half to get established. "When you have a long-running show the audience grows older with the show," said Bell. '"The Young and the Restless' was the first show to turn that around and attract a young audience for CBS.

@DRW50 thanks for the tag. this would be August 1960 I would think.

@NothinButAttitude Selby Flats was a suburb of LA.

ATWT was always promoted at the end of GL as the next P&G show on the schedule. I think EON got a tag at the end of ATWT for the same reason.

Mike and Karl were both involved with Robin and for some reason Mike and Robin were married. I guess this was what caused the argument b/w Bruce and Karl when he fell, hit his head and died. Not sure who is playing Robin at this point-is it Judy Robinson or Abigail Kellogg?

In another YouTube episode from later on Mike is leaving town and Robin is very cold towards him,so I wonder what changed b/w them? 

That's Milton Seltzer as the detective. Does anyone recognize the actors playing Grimes or the Judge?

Pity about the super fake backdrop. Maybe the glass should have been frosted or the window less prominent.

Y&R Dylan is Paul and Nikki's son. Has he ever been mentioned since he departed?

Y&R Dylan is Paul and Nikki's son. Has he ever been mentioned since he departed?

It's hard to maintain  interest when characters in the bottom of the Top 10 and the rest of the cast are averaging 1-2 appearances a week or on for a few days and then disappear.

Don't know what kind of contracts they're on...

It was Tom Donovan that brought Brooke Bundy in as Diana.

Stacey was played by Robin Eisenman, also temp Nikki on Y&R, among other soap roles.

Charlies Angels was a sensation for ABC in 76. For Fall 78 CBS had American Girls-2 beautiful reporters facing danger weekly. Didn't work.

Networks are well known for jumping on the bandwagon when a show hits big with their own version/variation.

What are some shows you can think of that appeared after a similar show or theme had shown that viewers were interested?

One obvious example was I Dream of Jeannie NBC arriving on the heels of Bewitched ABC which was a smash finishing at #2 for the season.

Jeannie was never as popular but hung around for 5 seasons. i would have to be Team Bewitched.

Looking forward to your contributions and some good discussions!

The naming of the character Kate and the retcon that it drove Laura crazy has led to the confusion.

It would have been more feasible had Bill had an affair post 1980 when the character left town-not unbelievable that with his wife institutionalized he might have cheated. And not to have named the character Kate.

Love that Kath & Kim opening was 'inspired by Y&R from the 90's.

Alex Bowden    Ernest Graves    1960-12/24/1965   Art gallery owner; married Robin and Doris, dated Julie *

Owned Bowden Gallery and then operated art classes at the Fletcher Clinic. Did not marry Doris-after she left LA he went to see her in Tennesee only to find she had married. Did not marry Robin, they were never involved. Did not date Julie, only supported her during her marriage breakdown to Mike by offering emotional and financial support to begin a secretarial business so she could support herself and Hope when she left her husband. Also befriended Johnny Fletcher when he was struggling to fit in with Paul and Robin.Left to study art in Europe.

*Another example of incorrect info being repeated in various sources.

Larry Hagman acknowledging his soap roots in a 1965 article promoting 'I Dream of Jeannie'

 ...Though practically all of Hagman's astronaut exploits will be on stock footage, he went through some of the testing real astronauts go through. "I'm 33 and I thought I was going downhill," he said with a note of awe in his voice. "But some of them are over 40. I can't do half the things they can, but on my side of the ledger, I bring 17 years of experience as an actor to the series. And the best experience I ever had was putting in a couple of years on a daytime soap opera Edge of Night.

We did 30 pages a day, so when we're asked to do 10 pages a day in Hollywood and I learn it, they're all terribly impressed."

Knowing Josh, the Ashley story will be told quickly, many opportunities will be missed/rushed through and Eileen will head offscreen for recovery.

It has already started poorly, with no real reason why the DID would come upon her now after so many other traumas that might have triggered it.

Yes a pod Laura and Bill arguing about something that never happened. Way to use history Days.

THE GUIDING LIGHT

Mark O'Daniels

THE GUIDING LIGHT      Jason Weber   3/17/65 - 10/15/1965  

Is there a reason Sonny has to be leading the rankings month after month? After God knows how many years? 

Chicago Tribune 17 May 2000.

Warren Swanson worked with Irna Phillips. I never knew he was gay. Looks like ha came out later in life. The claim in the article that he was involved  on 15 soaps I find a little suspect. Also a mention of Steve Babecki. Katherine Phillips wrote under that name so perhaps Steve was her husband?

Warren L. Swanson wore many hats–he was an attorney, a soap-opera writer and the co-author of well-known guides to Chicago. He dreamed up the idea of the first Easter Seal telethon and owned some prime real estate in the city.

“He was a Renaissance man,” said his son, Sheridan Christopher. “He tried everything and he had a knack for it.”

The 66-year-old South Loop resident who lived two doors away from Mayor Richard M. Daley died May 7 of a brain hemorrhage in Mercy Hospital and Medical Center in Chicago.

Mr. Swanson was born and lived most of his life in Chicago.

Mr. Swanson graduated from the University of Chicago and then Northwestern Law School. He at one time tutored former Gov. James Thompson through law school, his son said.

During the early part of his career, Mr. Swanson butted heads with the late Mayor Richard J. Daley. As one of two special prosecutors in a vote fraud probe 40 years ago, Mr. Swanson won convictions against three Democratic precinct workers who pleaded guilty to altering ballots in the 1960 election. Then, in 1968, when board members of a civic group he headed, the Citizens of Greater Chicago, decided to give the late mayor an award for “safeguarding lives and property” during the Democratic convention, Mr. Swanson resigned the group in protest.

But he considered himself a friend of the younger Daley and his wife, Maggie.

Mr. Swanson’s partner of 17 years, Thomas Brown, called him “one of the finest attorneys I know.”

Mr. Swanson helped the city of Palos Heights incorporate during the 1950s and then stayed on as the city attorney for 40 years.

It was while working as an attorney that Mr. Swanson landed a job writing for soap operas.

Back in the ’60s, many of the well-known TV dramas were being created in Chicago. An attorney friend who had been asked to write a courtroom drama for “As the World Turns” was not interested and so he passed on the job to Mr. Swanson who took the assignment and ran with it. He became the lead writer for “As the World Turns” and “Another World” and helped create 15 other shows, including “Somerset.”

In 1977, Mr. Swanson joined forces with Steve Babecki and wrote a 38-page guide to Chicago-area museums, “Museums of Chicago.”

Mr. Swanson also owned such properties as the building housing the Ann Taylor store on Oak Street and he once owned the Helene Curtis building in the North Loop.

Survivors also include a grandson. Services were held Friday; the family is planning a celebration of his life at an as yet undetermined date in June.

@JAS0N47 as we are constantly discovering, what is reported in reference books re dates etc is often incorrect.

4 hours ago, kalbir said:

Friday episode mentioned the anniversary of Victor and Nikki first wedding. With April 13 being a Saturday, the celebration episode would be April 15. 

In real time it's 40 years but given SORASing they can't really mention the number of years.

Well considering that Nick and Victoria seem to have been frozen in time as late 30's maybe they can get away with it.

And we sort of expected to believe that just about everyone is vaguely aged somewhere b/w 30 and 45

Victoria, Nick, Phyliis, Chelsea, Billy, Nate, Adam, Sharon, Sally, Abby,Devon etc

Ashley, Traci and Tucker maybe early 50's. Jack, Nikki late 50's early 60's and Victor early 70's?

They got rid of SORASED kids to keep them young- Noah, Faith, Reed ,Mattie,Charlie.

Thanks @JAS0N47 for the script.So Steve never got a farewell? Was there a mention in subsequent scripts that he had left town or was he just forgotten?

I hate when that happens. I know SS was recurring but he must have got caught up in the headwriter change as Harrower was using him regularly.

I'm against Nick/Lily. How many more love interests can Nick have? Currently Sharon, Chelsea, Phyllis and Sally have all been with him.

Having Lily stuck with Cane all those years means only Billy and Daniel are on her scoreboard.

I know there are issues with having all these vet characters and finding love interests but constantly swapping around is not working.

Nick should be backburnered for a while.If Faith and Noah were around he could play a parental role and be a part of (well written) business stories.

All the April spoilers are blah.