Everything posted by Paul Raven
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
The quads wouldn't have all had to be introduced at the same time. Maybe one by one over several months. Or 2 at first and then the others later. Their names were Lowell Gregory Maria and Nancy. Lowell I get as it is a family name. Nancy was named for Nancy Hughes? But she wasn't on the show at the time, so maybe not. As for Maria and Greg maybe they were someone in Jeff's family? I would have named them Lowell, Claire (after Annie's grandmother) and picked 2 more 'trendy' names for the Ward side of the family. Maria, Nancy and Greg all seem a bit old fashioned had they turned up in the 2000's.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
No we have never seen staff at the Duprees. Rowena has been mentioned. I will fault them in that we have seen Mona and Laura working for Nicole and they seem to be able to have under 5's eg Maitre D last week that welcomed Leslie at the Country Club and nurses, doctors, delivery people etc We would only have to see Rowena occasionally but it would add to the 'realism'
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Totally agree. You would imagine that at least 2 years of story was mapped out before anything was written (subject to tweaks as things went along) Some of the decisions made like the ages of characters, occupations chosen, no sets for certain characters etc were made from the get go and seem poorly thought out. A firefighter? Politician who doesn't seem to work? No staff for rich characters?
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Have Ted or Nicole had any involvement in the June story? Chelsea in the Hayley miscarriage? Has Dani had any mom/daughter talks about Madison? Those kind of connections seem to be ignored to the detriment of the story. I sometimes forget that some characters are related as they seldom share scenes.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
The thing with Eddie/ Georgia is they had little connection to the Hughes, Stewart's or Snyder's. When Christina Hughes, the Ward quads etc off-screen for no reason.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I get the idea of fast paced stories for the young ones, some of whom have zilch attention span. But jumping to a reveal is not the way to do it. If you have suspenseful beats along the way, people will watch and the payoff is even better. My issue is the follow through- Hayley has been in absentia since the 'miscarriage'. We still are not clear on the point of that story. The Randy connection was a twist-but zero follow through. After weeks of teasing us about June, in a matter of days, the truth comes out and then we don't see her. And what's left? Either the kids accept June or they don't. Is there going to be anything more to the Martin story? They need to keep stories bubbling, rather than ignoring them in favor of another plot.
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
Jon Michael Reed. August 78. He's commenting on Henry Slesar's stories. Right at that point, the Corringtons took over. ANOTHER show that is recently undergoing a ratings-hungry period is "Search For Tomorrow," which usually rates high in the polls. At no other period in the last half dozen years has "Search" enthralled this writer more than recently. The cast, which already boasts one of the finest actors in the business, has the added sparkle of exciting newcomers. And there have been a number of lushly photographed location shootings that have added to the "hookability" of superior plots. "Search" is an apparent candidate for ratings supremacy, yet its competitor in most markets, "Ryan's Hope," runs away with the ball game. "Ryan's" has always been an exemplary serial, but the last few months have witnessed stalled or repetitive story patterns. The viewers' choice is difficult to make between "Search" and "Ryan's but "Search" should not be so blatantly 'underlooked'. THAT CONSUMMATE actress Milles Taggart, who has been dealt dud storylines for most of the past half dozen years, has been given the opportunity to display her range as Janet Collins. The lady's romantically entangled with a charming but deadly manipulator, Chance Halliday, wonderfully portrayed by George Shannon. The unfolding mystery of Chance, his sister Kylie, and his ex-wife Donna has been enticingly well-paced. And Lisa Buck, as mentally disturbed Kylie, and Leslie Ann Ray, as alcoholic Donna, are two of the most accomplished actresses on television. It's all a joy to watch, but why aren't more folks tuning in? LESLIE, incidentally, endured a real-life scare while undergoing "reel" action. When Donna attempted suicide, Leslie was hooked up to a defibrillator by an intern who was called in on the story emergency. What neither the intern nor Leslie realized was that the machine still retained a low voltage charge from previous When the machine was turned on, the electric current sent Leslie flying toward the ceiling. She retained several chest burns to prove that a serial actress' life isn't all fun and games.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Leslie could have told Eva she's applying for a Country Club membership and they have given her a complimentary I day pass. And Vanessa could have informed the Duprees that Leslie is looking for a property in Fairmont Crest, not buying the house across the street. 2 easy work arounds of those issues. And anyway, Leslie will not be purchasing the mansion across from Vernita. Unless there is budget for another set. They had a maitre d' welcoming Leslie at the CC but won't give the Duprees a housekeeper.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Thanks @DRW50 Must have been a surprise for viewers to see Nancy after a few years as though she'd never been away. And then vanish again.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Courier Express 18 January 1981 It's hush-hush right now, but very soon it's probable that another famous one will bite the dust in soapland. And it's another case of moving out the "old" to make way for the "new." Helen Wagner has portrayed Nancy Hughes on ''As the World Turns" since the original pilot was made and the series debuted April 2, 1956. Wagner met recently with the producers and writers of the show to renegotiate her contract. After being one of the character spokes on "ATWT" for nearly 25 years, financial considerations weren't a major negotiation factor. The actress pulls a hefty salary, as befits her long-running status on the show. However,she was concerned that the character has been progressively shoved in the story background and has, on occasion, been required to "act silly and out of character," according to an observer. Wagner reportedly asked for assurance that her character would become more prominent in the story, and the writers dismissed her request. In retaliation, Wagner announced she won't be re-signing her contract, which expires in several weeks. Wagner was born in Lubbock, Tex., and trained to be a singer. Early in her career, she appeared with the St. Louis Municipal Opera, as well as in Oscar Hammerstein's musicals, "Sunny River'", and "Oklahoma." She also toured in Gilbert and Sullivan operettas, playing the mezzo leads. Despite occasional tours in plays such as "Streetcar Named Desire" with Lee Marvin and "A Lion In Winter," Wagner has devoted her career to the soap opera business. It is, therefore, a sad comment on the current state of the soap opera business that ATWT" would callously allow one of its guiding forces to take a hike. The old folks on soaps are dispensable when the focus shines on younger characters. In turn, it's economically necessary to build a new and younger audience. But in the process, all too often, viewers who have invested decades in a soap must sit by and watch their loved ones get the short end of the stick in story preferences. Wagner still has a few weeks left in her current contract and there's a possibility that she still may swallow her pride. But at this point it appears that Wagner and Nancy Hughes won't be around on the daytime tube, which also leaves in question the fate of Nancy's husband, Chris, played by the only other remaining original cast member of - "ATWT," Don MacLaughlin. In another report it was stated that Nancy did not appear at all in Jan 81.Probably the first time that had happened and Helen saw the writing on the wall. Although I wonder how that happened. ? If she was on a 2 a week contract was the plan to have her appear more often later to make up her guarantee? Or were they just paying her anyway? Looks like Helen was offered fewer appearances in the new contract. Don accepted recurring at some point and was hardly seen. Somehow she turned up for the location shoot of Tom and Margo's wedding in 1983. Maybe they were taping nearby her home and someone approached her to attend? Very odd. Did she have any lines? Then she returned in 85.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Mmmm...this whole Leslie trust fund thing. She has enough to buy a house opposite the Duprees? And agree about the CC thing. Would be more interesting to see Leslie have to make an application and an interview, feeling inadequate up against a snooty committee. And maybe she resorts to some scheming to get accepted. eg seduces a 'respectable' board member. It's like they want her in the midst of things and tore through story to do it. I was hoping that as a new show BTG wouldn't have to resort to these type of contrivances to move plot.
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
I think Tom and Margo married in 83, but yes they hold the record. Kim and Bob married in 85 and were still together at the end. Matt and Maggie on The Doctors married in 1965 and divorced in 1982? Mike and Nancy on EON married in 1962 and were still together in 85.
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All: Characters who became young grandparents on soaps
Well Alice was already a grandmother to Julie, so when Julie had David she became a great grandmother and when David had Scotty a great great grandmother.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
That's where the set situation comes into play. If they had a small eating area in the hotel off the lobby, Leslie could encounter him there .Or a hospital cafeteria. Ted wouldn't want a scene in public so would be forced to talk to Leslie. The change in actor has changed the character. MJ's Ted was Mr Romance and Nicole seemed to eat that up. Even in light of the changed circumstances that chemistry b/w them seems to have died. They are not even recreating flashbacks to better times to make Nicole torn over Ted. Instead she's turned stone cold. I's think that underneath her anger there would be some feelings left, especially that she's witnessed how unhinged Leslie can be. She could see what Ted is dealing with.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Courier Express, 1 August 1971 Lumb, Dru Leave 'Another World' WHEN GEOFFREY LUMB of NBC-TV's "Another World" retired from acting this season, his role of lawyer Mitchell Dru was also retired. Executive producer Lyle B. Hill felt that no other actor could take his place, so the part was eliminated from the daytime drama series. Lumb and his wife will reside in southern Spain.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Jon Michael Reed's column at the time While "Guiding Light" is taping sequences on location in the Canary Islands, Kristen Vigard, the freckled red head who originated the role in early 1980, has been "dropped" from the Cast and replaced by a blonde soap opera newcomer, Jennifer Cooke. Several sources claimed that Ms. Vigard has been repeatedly chastised by the production office for frequent lateness on the set and laxity in learning her scenes which disturbed co-workers. The straw that broke the came!'s back apparently was drawn two weeks ago when production had to be halted due to Vigard's absence. Ms Vigard's performance as Morgan has been lackluster, to say the least. Despite obvious efforts by beadwriter Doug Marland to shape the character into the "teen queen" mold, a la Laura Baldwin on "General Hospital," on the show Ms. Vigard was woefully deficient in emotional range and projected zero personal charisma. Al the more mystifying, then, that she possesses impressive theatrical credits for an actress not yet out of her teens, including "Home to Stay," a CBS movie with Henry Fonda, and "I Remember Mama," a Broadway musical with Liv Ulmann. The grind of doing a daily serial, after all, isn't everyone's cup of tea, at least not Vigard's.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Tomas' tattoos alone should be enough to have him arrested.
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Y&R: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Everything about the Cane return is bad, including the couch. First Cane secretly acquires mega wealth in 6 years with the help of his father, a drifter who was always struggling to make any real money. Tries to worm his way back to Lily by lying to her and his kids. Smart move. Wants to buy up all the companies. That will really endear him to GC residents. Claims someone was trying to kill him. What happened to that? Expects people to head to the train tracks to pay him a visit. With a vast reservoir of talented people available to work for him - aligns with two numbskulls like Billy and Phyllis, who have a series of failed business ventures behind them. Guess little Sam is playing with Christian...
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Vern, why use the stairs when there is an elevator in your living room? Maybe he wants the exercise? I would have liked to see Leslie spitting out a few feathers from Anita's sleeve detail after the slap.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
I thought both the Anita/Leslie scenes and the June scenes were well written and played. The only problem remains that they should have been the culmination of a few weeks of story rather than something that happened a few episodes ago. There were more angles/beats to play in both stories.
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Looking back...Primetime Ratings from the 80's
ABC misread the market. There were enough primetime soaps airing. Maybe Paper Dolls could have worked but not as 9pm show. Love Boat/Fantasy Island were falling so ABC orders Glitter and Finder of Lost Loves, more Aaron Spelling glitz.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
The type of writing that BTG must avoid.
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Maybe she auditioned for Samantha...
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BTG: August 2025 Discussion Thread
Texas and Santa Barbara come to mind. As for Leslie, I'm find with her being an antagonist, scheming etc. But it needs to be paced and balanced. If she's continually annoying people and trying to ruin their lives and they put up with it, then no thanks. eg Phyllis and Victor on Y&R. After the stunts they've pulled, for people to even speak to them is nonsensical and makes everyone look bad. How many years did viewers call for Phyllis to be charged over her hit and run? When they finally revisited that, she came out the victor. Leslie should not be an outright villian. A villian should have a limited shelf life, which in soap terms can be up to a few years, providing there is an ultimate punishment.I guess we'll have to put aside the hit and run and attempted poisoning if Leslie is to stay.