Cat

4 hours ago, Taoboi said:

What I liked about ATL and BH was that the friendships were real and 'NOT JUST FOR CAMERA' when it started...and it does feel less and less.  which is probably why ATL is falling flat (though I have love the slow burn so far imho). There have been so many crosses, and doublecrosses, and tripledoublecrosses, do you honestly believe they are friends...especially when the people who appeared to be truly friends (Kandi and Shady Phae Phae) are not even friends any more?

 

Same with BH which started with the ladies being friends. Now at this point other than debately LVP and Kyle are any of them truly friends. Even LVP side-eye Dorit/Erika friendship on WWHL which makes me wonder if the fallout is coming and on camera at that. This did not used to be the case. 

 

Not the case with NYC which I have not watched from the beginning but the friendships do shine through. So much so that it shows when a new one starts...ex. Dorinda/LuAnn. Yes, @Cat they were truly love for me. And could even disagree and still be cool. I loved that. 

With ATL I appreciate that the tripledoublecrosses have been on screen and that everybody acknowledges them. That's what people do in real life. On BH or NJ, a lot of stuff happens bts and that's what drives me nuts. The HWs start talking obliquely and around stuff. I like that people like Nene, Kenya and even Kim bring it to the table and lay it all out there. That social media roachfest Brielle pulled a few months ago? I'm willing to bet Nene is going to bring that mess up on the show, and I am here for it. I do think there are some true-blue friendships on ATL, and that would be Nene-Cynthia and Kenya-Cynthia. They hang out off-season. Too bad Cynthia's story is such a bore this year!

With BH, I question whether LVP & Kyle are actually friends. Their interactions seem a bit scripted for camera. Both of them need backup after Kyle lost Cujo Kim and LVP alienated most of the cast. Old-time fans apparently loved their friendship so they feel the have to keep delivering it. As for Dorit/Erika, talk about strategic. But yes, I miss the old friendships. I think LVP-Brandi was a real friendship until Brandi became Yolanda's flying monkey. Personally, I'm not that thrilled with the casting on this show which has been showing diminishing returns in recent seasons. If Camille and Adrienne are coming back, they need to COME BACK for real.

I am sad that Kathy Hilton never said yes to join the show as her palpable hatred of Kyle was glorious and that sisterly relationship is as real as it gets. I am even sadder that the late Jackie Collins is no longer on this earth. She lived in Beverly Hills. She would have been great on BH, with the audience following her on her book tour or looking in on her gossip sessions with friends and acquaintances. Plus Joan popping in on regular visits. Jackie would have been great at reality, because she was always comfortable with being herself and larger than life -- her sister Joan Collins is actually much shyer IRL. Jackie's tagline could have been "If you intrigue me enough, I *MAY* put you in my next blockbuster!" with a toss of her hair. She would have also intimidated the great LVP and that snob Erika. Anyway, I am getting OT. Long story short: BH needs a boost, and the Kemsleys ain't it. 

You... you... have not watched the early seasons of NYC?? Please PLEASE do yourself the biggest favor of your life and watch Seasons 1-5 if you can! They are glorious! I love them and when repeats come on where I am, I DVR them because they are that watchable. People talk about Ramonja but as far as I'm concerned, Luann & Sonja was the friendship that transcended the fact they were in different cliques. BTW, Dorinda appeared on S4 in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment -- one of Jill's charity functions, and she was seated next to Ramona. She's been friends with both for some years, and I think she's known Lu for a while too. 

What I love about Dorinda is her incredible compassion for all the women, even the ones she has beef with. This is her strength. Last season Bethenny & Dorinda had a fight in Mexico, but you could tell that while that was going on, Dorinda understood Bethenny's anger and where she was coming from. Dorinda also understands that sometimes you can leave fights and resentments behind after a big blow-up. 

11 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

Soggy comes across fake like even she doesn’t believe the BS coming out of her mouth. 

Agreed. I mean, I do think she has let the 'fame' go to her head and is completely delusional for real. But as far as all the onscreen stuff? She is playing a role. Looking for a fight. Trying to be the centre of the drama.

10 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

I don't think that BH, OC, or ATL won't improve until they chop the episodes down like NJ. All the shows better follow suit of Dallas and Potomac and go back to 12 episodes at the most. 

 

But speaking of NJ, they do need to bring Caroline and Jacqueline now. Why? B/c of Danielle. I'd love to see them square off with Danielle and Tre. It'd be EPIC.

Yes, I think a shorter season packed with less filler is the way to go. The only exception I would make to a longer season would be NY seasons 2 and 3. It was long but it was PACKED with greatness. Production couldn't afford to leave anything out.

NJ: I am absolutely on the Caroline train and I know why you are suggesting Jacqueline... because her relationship with Danielle was particularly intense. However, Jacq burned that bridge with S8. She's another special-snowflake delulu who thinks she's the star of the show and every tantrum is TV gold. And when it comes to the big showdowns, she has no balls. She always walks out in a huff to go sit in her car or is a no-show.

Lena Dunham is back, unfortunately. This weekend amid all the Golden Globes stuff, she showed up at a #TimesUp event and shoehorned herself into the photo of the activists and actresses. Then she posted the pic on her IG with this caption:

"Humbled to stand alongside these amazing women and say #TIMESUPon systemic oppression, underrepresentation, discrimination, abuse and violence in all industries. 🖤"

This chick is shameless! Piggybacking on other people's work and then swooping in at the end to take credit for it. She called Aurore Perrineau a liar when she went to the police about her rape! Has she apologized to her since? And yes, I know that Meryl Streep and Susan Sarandon are there too, and they are problematic also.

Anyway, Tessa Thompson, who has been involved with #TimesUp since it started, responded to questions on her social media about Lena's inclusion in the picture with this:

“Lena was not anywhere present in our group during the countless hours of work for the last two months. We hosted an open house for the actresses for red carpet messaging and Lena presence was a surprise to us all. This is a time of reckoning. And for many, a re-education. So many women also have real work to do. I’m afraid it’s too nuanced a conversation to have on this platform. But I hear you, and know that your thoughts and words are not lost on me. It’s been discussed.”

Ever one to jump on an opportunity to have the media talking about her, Lena issued this statement 0.03 seconds afterwards:

“I was honored to be invited to the meeting by a close friend and to observe the work that these amazing women have been doing the past few months. For highly personal reasons, I’ve been unable to join previous efforts but being asked to be a part of this celebratory moment was truly beautiful. I’ve worked with Tessa and respect her artistry and admire her consistent candor.”

So then Tessa was put in the position of posting this:

https://twitter.com/TessaThompson_x/status/950671186735742976

Will Lena ever stop promoting herself and acting like the world revolves around her ass? This snowflake outstayed her welcome ages ago!

20 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I finally watched an episode of Atlanta after skipping the last two. This season BLOWS.

Totally. The PSA apart, the show feels contrived, disconnected and with no heart. No one's heart seems in it this year.

3 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Absolutely - of the recent seasons, only NYC was great. NJ was good (the shortened season helped a lot). OC was awful. ATL is boring. BH is dull. 

42 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

At least we still have Potomac and Dallas.  Both had great season twos.

 

With Camille getting talking heads again and being around more...she ain't the one you want, Dorit.

 

 

For me:

 

OC--didn't like it at all.

 

NYC--was light, but fun and LuAnn was love. 

 

ATL--I suspect it will be uneven now, but I'm liking it. Even a boring episode has some funny moments.

 

NJ--I've lost track, but I've actually been enjoying it now that I've met THE Danielle.

 

BH--Yep. I am finding it dull so far as well.

For me, i would say Dallas was the revelation last year.

NY -- the true-blue relationships between the ladies make this show my fave (and yes Luann and Dorinda are love!)

OC -- horrendous. Cancellation worthy.

NJ -- better than the last 2 seasons but... does anyone here miss Caroline Manzo? The show lost something when she left which it has never recovered.  

ATL -- missing its old magic. It feels a little lost and scripted and by numbers.

BH -- looks like a carbon copy of last season. And that was not a vintage year.

Btw Yolanda Hadid's new show Making the Model starts on Thursday. Just an fyi.

Teresa open to a more expansive role?? For sure they are closing!

Just now, Antoyne said:

My god, how did Dorit and PK think that scene with Teddi and her husband would go? It’s like they literally forgot Teddi was RIGHT there when Dorit just made up with Rinna. I was telling my partner that I think I essentially only enjoyed Dorit because she had balls and didn’t mind going against Rinna/Eileen/Erika alone last season, but outside of that she’s still a vapid, vain, phoney.

It may be too early in the season to call it but I think Dorit may be getting the bitch edit, not Rinna.

Or MAYBE there is no bitch edit and these idiots just do it to themselves? Certainly Dorit has been set up to be the main character this season. She was in almost every scene this episode.

How much money must the Kemsleys be spending. On the ridiculously expensive Hermes china, the 24-hour nannies, the assistants, Dorit's hair and makeup posse, launching her swimwear line, renting that appalling McMansion and Bentley? I feel like any minute now PK and Dorit are going to steal out of the backdoor in the middle of the night while their creditors (+ Boy George) try to break down the front gate, hiding out in the UK or Israel and reinventing themselves again. Dorit & PK = the new TayShanna & Russell.

14 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Knowing Siggy is actually gone already did not change in the least how damn annoying she is. The girls came to an understanding yet again and yet here she is once again obviously avoiding Margaret when you just text her about her party. This woman is nuts.

 

Teresa is the least eloquent speaker on the planet, but it was a nice gesture to speak with Danielle’s daughter.

NJ isn't over yet? Siggy is still talking about Hitluh?

10 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

 

I cant put my finger in it..but there is something kind of superior and judge about Teddi.

That's what I felt too. I wonder if she cannot empathise with people outside her own realm of experience. Like she seemed unable to empathise with Erika for never having known her father, for the simple reason that Teddi's dad was more or less in her life. I don't believe you necessarily need to have lived something to be able to empathise, you know? I felt she was a little judgey of Erika because of that. 

She was also judgey of Dorit & PK but that is understandable. They were showing their ass this episode and are clearly frauds.

BH:

Not really liking Dorit so far this season. Yes, she has amazing hair. Yes, she had an incredible David-and-Goliath moment in Hong Kong last year. But PK is still a pig. That rented McMansion is ugly. This whole Kemsley situation is a house of cards about to crumble imo. And showing off not just the Hermes packaging of your dinner service but also the SALES RECEIPT is tacky as f. I think I disliked Dorit this episode more than Rinna, which is saying something.

I enjoyed Rinna and LVP's banter together at the horse show, especially the bit about Rinna needing to go to church. Rinna and LVP could make a great pair but they won't. Because LVP does not trust Rinna (I don't think anybody on this show trusts Rinna with anything), and Rinna cannot stand LVP judging by her oh-so-spontaneous 'first time' viewing of S1 RHOBH on her Instagram stories.

I am surprised how traditional Teddi is coming across regarding women & babies. I like Teddi for being upfront and making up her own mind about things and having her own views which run counter to some of the 'oh so cool' pronouncements made by the other women. But I think she may have difficulty empathising with people outside her own realm of experience. Like when Erika had to apologise for making Teddi uncomfortable for mentioning the father she never knew?? Did I hear that right? That was an odd moment.

I can't believe Kyle went to Croatia and all we saw of it was her Face-Timing Rinna? Couldn't she have provided some footage of her vacation? So weird seeing her house renovations and knowing she didn't want to leave her BH home in light of the massive robbery that happened on their new Encino property. Apparently the Umanskys forgot to set the alarm on their place and now all her jewellery and bags are gone as well as his watches. I wonder if they will sell off the Encino manse once renovations there are complete and just stay in their now-redone BH home.

Next week: Tokyo! The city that made me fall in love with all things Asian. I hope they do it justice but I fear we will get lots of loud "EW RAW FISH" jokes while polite Japanese folk look on, appalled.

On 01/01/2018 at 12:32 AM, DaytimeFan said:

 

And a Happy New Year to you, Cat. Let's hope 2018 is better for everyone, even Lisa Rinner. 

lol Yep! Even Rinner!  Actually I would never wish bad things on her, or any of the HWs. Even Witchy-Poo Carleton, who apparently is being sued by an assistant/nanny who I think is Elizy, her sex dungeon participant from S5. Looks like Carleton has been on a downward spiral with booze, and her hubby is now divorcing her. Now she's turning physically on her 'assistant.' Talk about a bad year for many HWs. Next thing you know, we are going to have Bethenny unable to fit in her 6 yr old's pajamas, and it will be a full-scale meltdown.

http://tamaratattles.com/2017/12/27/carlton-gebbia-sued-by-longtime-housekeeper-nanny-for-abuse/

1 hour ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Yesh you missed the hateful parts where Rinna is talking over a scene where LVP is talking to Taylor about instigating a problem with Kyle and Rinna shouts that it’s LVP doing the instigating and then there were other scenes involving Cedric who she describes as her friend. 

Well, if she's friends with that professional hustler/blackmailer.... Rinna needs better chums lol.

The timing of this is most interesting. BH is done with principal filming but Reunion hasn't filmed yet. Erika, Dorit and Teddi won't care about this, but Kyle, LVP and possibly Camille will. Sounds like Rinna is trying to do some instigating herself.  Mostly to antagonize LVP who doesn't seem to be bothering much with Rinna this season. This makes me wish they'd bring back Taylor for s9 because it looks like Rinna is targeting her too. The sad thing is Rinna talking about the White Party, shrieking that she was there, however I doubt she would be an honoured guest this year, even if production does lean on Kyle to invite her.

Rinna annoys me so much when she does these things lmao. She's trying to stay relevant by doing this, almost like she wishes she was part of the early seasons of BH.

3 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I recently researched season 1 of rhobh....it was like lightening in a bottle and set the bar so high...that the shoe had never been able to meet.  It was very natural, the women seemed to enjoy each other.....and kim vs Taylor wad natural because you sometimes don't click with people...even recall when Kim tried to hang out with taylor to make nice...and Taylor was like not getting Kim's quirky/loopy/drunk vibe.

 

In also forgot that LVP and adrienne were friendly and got along that season.  I think L VP becoming the unexpected MVP made the other women jealous hence why in season 2..the other women were trying to one up her.

 

However, Camille was the perfect villianess.....calm, calculating, and perfect balance of Cattiness and sweetness.  I do agree that she would constantly win against Kyle since Kyle couldn't keep a handle on her emotions.

 

Best moment of season 2 was Camille outing Taylor's abuse tales she was telling the other ladies behind the scenes.  To this day, I'm not sure if she was being truthful or not....at least about the physical abuse aspect.  The emotional abuse part...I could buy.

 

Rinna is rewatching to get pointers for season 9...imho

IA it really was lightening in a bottle and I loved all these women's relationships. You could tell most were pals before filming. In fact I think Kyle recommended Camille, LVP and possibly Taylor to join. My fave moment by far was the dinner party from hell. Truly unexpected, unscripted magic where production just filmed these women going off. And yes Camille was perfection. Smart and shady. Kyle was totally outmatched.

My feeling was that Camille blew the lid open.on the Taylor abuse secret in a way that no-one anticipated. Taylor spent the rest of the season trying to cover it. My feeling was that it was the truth, otherwise Russell wouldn't have threatened Camille with a lawsuit. He totally panicked, especially because he was doing dodgy things with other people's money. TayShanna and Russell were both grifters, not just trying to hide his abuse, but trying to avoid jail time for fraud. That was the real reason for his suicide, I believe.

Happy New Year, RH fans. Hope 2018 is better than 2017! 

@DaytimeFan @Nothin'ButAttitude so I broke down and went over to Rinna's IG to check out her story about S1 BH...  Her latest story doesn't seem too hateful, she's talking about Kyle's 'famous' White Party and LVP barely gets mentioned. Maybe I missed the earlier ones where she spent more time hating on Vanderpump. Anyhoo, just wanted to say It looks relatively innocuous -- for now -- and LVP is still following Rinna on Instagram. I still dont believe this is the first time Rinna has watched these early seasons, though.

I trust she'll be graduating onto S2 and Russell's suicide shortly. Kind of hard to make jokes about that, though. I don't think she's talked about "YOU STOLE MY GODDAMN HOUSE!" "YOU'RE SICK AND AN ALCOHOLIC!" yet either. Lord help us when she does.

4 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

@Cat @Taoboi @Antoyne @Cheap21 @Nothin'ButAttitude You should pop over to Lisa Rinna’s Instagram and watch her Insta story - she appears to be binge watching season 1 of RHoBH and she seriously hates LVP.

Sounds like she already hates LVP and is projecting those feelings on her S1 viewing (which I don't believe she has never watched before). Apparently she hates Kyle too lol. Is it worth watching her IG would you say? I love S1 but I don't know if I want to see a constant barrage of LVP hate. Imo she was golden that season.

4 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

Luann is checking into rehab per her social media. 

 

Her statement is that she is totally embarrassed, has the utmost respect for police officers and is voluntarily seeking help at an alcohol treatment facility. 

 

Luann hit bottom and surveyed the damage and took action. Good for her. I hope it is a healing time. 

While her statement is partly for PR and for the court, I hope that the whole thing is a wakeup call for her. For a long time I was a supporter of Luann's lust for life and fun. I was definitely Team Luann when Heather, Carole and later Bethenny tried to slut-shame her. Even with the pirate, there was a certain hilarious veneer of elegance to Luann's game. She found him so gorgeous lol. But this latest incident has illustrated a darkness in Luann's life ever since the Count divorced her; she had something with Jacques but he could be quite mocking, Parisian, and cold. I'm not sure he gave her the validation or status she wanted. Since then, she's made terrible choices in men (never mind Tom -- who could forget that coked up psycho Rey?). Its been a a couple of steps downward for her, a bit like Lily Bart in Edith Wharton's novel The House of Mirth.  It reflects on her self esteem issues as she grasps helplessly at any guy who promises her good time. She can do better but I don't think she realises that -- yet.

Rehab might not be a bad thing either. There is enjoying your drink, and then there is locking the bathroom door as your drunk friend tries to distract the policeman while you flush the coke down the toilet. Just speculating, but I can't be the only one who thought that when I read that part of the report.

I admire her for doing this while RHONY is filming, and for apologizing to the police. You know that apart from Dorinda and possibly Tinsley, the others have a giant opportunity to dine out on this. I feel like Carole and Bethenny are so protected by their friendship with Andy Cohen that they are audience-hate-proof. And I can definitely imagine the bitchy talking heads from both of them. I hope they have empathy for Lu in a "where but for the grace of God go I" kind of way. 

Ramona tho... 

12 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

 

 

 

 

Camille's quiet, elegant shade about Rinna and Eileen as her backup was delicious. It went down smooth. The same applies to her ice dildo love - that is the Camille we all know and love. 

 

Adrienne is looking like Jocelyn Wildenstein. She needs to stop everything she's doing to her face and go see Paul to sort her out on an episode of Botched. 

 

Kyle's new home in the Valley was burglarized and apparently $1 million worth of jewelry was stolen:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5219121/Kyle-Richards-Mauricio-Umansky-home-robbed.html

 

It's also confirmed that their Bel-Air house is on the market. 

That is called 'posting pics of everybody in Aspen on Instagram, and the burglars targeting rich, famous socialites knowing that's a good time to drop by.' Def sounds like an inside job linked to either the staff or the workmen. They knew exactly where to go. Plus the alarm was not on. I don't think either Kyle or Mauricio are dumb enough to leave for vacation without turning on the alarm. Which means someone disabled it.

I feel bad for the Umanskys. Having your home trespassed and burglarized is a violation. You feel unsafe in your own home, exposed, and as if the place has become contaminated by a faceless enemy. Still, thank goodness no-one was home when they broke in. Kyle has her kids and her husband safe and that is by far the most important thing. Watches are replaceable! Especially if you have contents insurance.

10 hours ago, Taoboi said:

But regardless of what was said last night Camille DID get a brief TH. 

 

I expect her to get another one.

 

And I was shocked to see Adrienne again. She seem so shy to be in front of the camera again versus Camille. Shake it, Girl!!!

I think Adrienne has been burned badly by what happened in S3. She shouldn't have lied and said outright in interviews that she gave birth to her kids when she is plainly 50+ years old, but she got exposed publicly and it signaled the death knell of her marriage too. She is a bit of a control freak so I imagine even being a FOH is out of her comfort zone.

When Camille relives her Club MTV dancer days, it is so amazing. I notice Kyle ALWAYS comments snarkily on her dancing, but I think she is just jealous because nobody is noticing her whipping her hair or doing the splits in the corner.  Sigh. The Camille vs Kyle rivalry! I know Camille was meant to be the most hated HW but I was so Team Camille S1!

7 hours ago, Antoyne said:

“I kinda feel bad for Lisa because Eileen’s not here to back her up” and then she giggles. God bless you Camille. That was the best moment on a pretty boring episode.

 

And Jesus Christ! Adrienne won’t stop ruining that face of hers. Sheesh.

 

I don’t like Dorit’s Erika-love. 

 

I still like Teddi. Please don’t kiss Erika’s ass.

I can't believe I missed that A+, gold star, elegant shade!  It's like the old Camille came back for a second. "The morally-corrupt Faye Resnick." Faye should have showed up on this Vegas trip too!

When Adrienne walked into the room, I was shocked at the aura she projected, like that of a little old lady. The cat-lady work could be part of that.

Dorit is laying it on thick with the Erika love, and it is so odd given how much Erika targeted her last season.

If Teddi won't kiss Erika's ass, she might not be here next season. Sigh, I still say Kathryn should have been given another chance.

25 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

 

Yeah Im fine. It was a shock but I wasnt devastated. I still listen to their music occasionally but Im not as invested or up on the KPop world as I once was. Its hard to imagine the group without him he along with Onew were the voices.

I'm glad you weren't horribly affected by this -- it's hard news to take. Yes, I also have been drifting away from kpop. This death and TOP's treatment by so-called fans and YG really highlight the dark side of this industry and the society over there. I keep up with EXO and maybe a few other songs but the Twice/BTS stuff driving kpop at the moment doesn't do much for me.

RHoBH:

I found this latest episode rather slow-going. When Erika's Gestapo dominatrix outfit, and Lisa Rinna in a procession of bikinis, are the talking points of the episode, you know it's not going to be a banner one. Still, it's early days.

Also, Adrienne and Camille were there but they barely got a look-in! The show really has drifted from some of its original roots.

2 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

@Cat I found out on Christmas day that Jonghyun from SHINee killed himself last week

I'm sorry not to have mentioned anything to you, Cheap. TBH when I found out last week, it hit me hard, and I was kind of in shock for the whole week. He was a lovely guy, his sweetness and vulnerability really came through his performances and interviews, and in his solo music. Hearing about his struggle with depression and feelings of failure... he was so talented a shining talent, and yet felt like he was worthless! I am finding that especially hard to accept. Seeing his SHINee bandmates and fellow SM idols at the funeral on the news was especially painful. I kept away from online forums as a result, including this place. So please forgive me for not breaking the news to you beforehand.

How are you doing? I know it must have been a shock. These idols live under immense pressure from their companies and the fans who criticise them... it's not an enviable life, is it. I hope you are doing ok -- it's an awful shock, I know.

Just now, Soaplovers said:

I knew there was something quite not right about that marriage.  Especially that drunken scene where she yelled he couldn't get a bones.  I knew then that it was okly a matter of time.

Since Lu was totally dickmatized by Tomcat, I assume you are talking about Lizzie & Christian.  And if so, I totally missed that exchange. The story she was selling was that they had a scorching sex life, interrupted only by the toddler terrors they had, but clearly I snoozed through that scene you mention!

Holy sh*t @Taoboi . It's like Housewives Armageddon this week! 

5 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

Further detail about how Luann's night in Palm Beach went to hell: https://pagesix.com/2017/12/26/luann-had-previously-dated-the-guy-found-in-bed-with-her/

 

Ultimately, it comes down to Luann being in bed in the wrong hotel room with an ex she picked up in the bar, which she got into because it was unlocked as a hotel maid was doing turndown service. Luann locked herself in the bathroom and the cops were called. 

 

The whole thing could have never happened if she hadn't been wasted. 

An ex...? Praying it isn't him.

Luann seems like she's in a bad place at the moment. She is absolutely entitled to sleep with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, but breaking into another hotel room when she has her own is an unnecessary mess. Plus her friend Julie Olson appears to have sold her out, and a lot of the reports I am reading are borderline misogynistic, trashing Lu, i.e., she's so old and desperate! 

Gutter press and no doubt many HWs are having a field day with this, which hurts my heart as I am a Luann fan. Maybe the embarrassment of this is the wake-up call she needs, though. She may be partying a little too hard, judging by that dead-eyed, smirking mugshot. She should take her time in getting over the second assh*le she married, and find someone better than Bald D'Agostino (a man who makes Dorinda's John look positively princely). Because she CAN do better, if she gets her sh*t together and doesn't settle for the first guy with a condo in West Palm Beach.

Bright side to all this: at least she got arrested in Palm Beach and not WPB, darlings. 

ETA: I just realised it has been almost a year since Luann's Palm Beach wedding on NYE. Tom is also in PB with his new wealthy GF, some Rothschild chick who used to be Luann's friend. Just speculating but I'm wondering if Luann acting like this is linked to that.

She's getting lots of trolls on Twitter attacking her, sadly. 2017 has been a rough year for her from beginning to end.

Damn, Luann. They are currently filming RHONY at the moment.

Looking at the mugshot: yep. She's wasted. I know we've seen the Countess tumble into a bush in Mexico, but I never thought i would ever, EVER see her mugshot in a situation like this. Luann always seemed a calm, fun drinker, not an angry, violent one.

5 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Exactly! The interesting part of all of it for me is that Siggy tries to argue that Bravo didn’t show her side of the conflict for context about her reactions.

 

What she fails to realize is that acting like a lunatic is never justified. There are reasons, but there are not excuses. She thinks she can be excused when she cannot. What she did to Melissa was really awful, for example, and there’s no context that can justify it. 

This reminds me of the moment Heather sealed her fate on the OC. It was the Blair Witch bus ride to the airport in Ireland, when she orchestrated a hate campaign on Kelly and totally trashed and belittled her, trying to get her to react angrily so that she and the other two witches could look justified in their actions. Heather kept saying in her blogs that in the episodes that followed, we the dumb audience would understand what provoked her to act this way. We never did, and there was never any explanation to justify that behaviour. She was just a mean bully who targeted her prey.

As for Siggy, thank you for reminding me about the rolling around (Melissa, to her credit, took it like a champ) or the threat to pull out Marge's pigtails, or when she did that ridiculous dancing around and sticking her tongue out behind Marge's back at the pizzeria. As you say, there is really nothing Margaret, who seems pretty calm and sane, could have said to justify Siggy acting like this. Unlike Heather on the OC, though, who had a master plan regarding bringing Kelly down, Siggy seems literally unbalanced.

I like Dolores on the whole, but she is Siggy's enabler in her crazy hate fantasies. She knows better, because when it was just her, Margaret and Teresa in Milan, everyone got along well and treated each other respectfully. How can she justify telling Siggy it is ok to act the way she has?

3 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Eww, I just caught up on NJ and I can’t stand Siggy. To think I actually liked her last year, and then just thought she was being annoying earlier this season. No. She’s literally the worst and most idiotic bitch out there. I can’t believe this Hitler/anti-Semitic crap she’s pulling with Margaret. Totally uncool. I’m glad she’s quitting, hopefully she realizes this is her OWN career killer. Karma bitch. 

Quitting? You mean fired, don't you?

Trying to make out that another cast member made an anti-Semitic comment (when plainly she didnt) so you can play the victim was the lowest. When Andy said this week his rabbi said it wasn't an A-S comment, I figured Siggy's days were numbered.

Siggy on Twitter is now suddenly saying that Margaret said something even worse in Milan but Bravo edited it out to make M look good and S look bad.  Ok. Why on earth would Bravo leave out anything shocking or drama-worthy from a show that desperately needs it -- just to save a newbie like Marge's a$$??

4 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Siggy has announced that she’s not returning!!

Given that up until 3 hours ago she was still ranting and raving about all things RHONJ and siccing her followers on Margaret, sounds to me like she got fired by Bravo. She was waaaay too invested in keeping this fight going on social media to have suddenly stepped down from the show. No doubt she will pretend it was her decision to go, though.