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Ozempic really did a number on these three.

Another day, another Mia lie! Oxycontin addiction? Nothing a quick muscle realignment at one of 'her 22 clinics' can't handle. I find it hilarious that the 'Here is Your Plucky Heroine, Mia!' SL has gone so fatally awry. Mia simply cannot conceal her own intrinsic moral bankruptcy. Gordon and Jacqueline keep crashing that carefully contrived caregiver image every time they appear. First Jacqueline exposed her BFF for telling Gordon she loved him. The way Mia sputtered as she desperately thought up some inanity about this is how you're supposed to treat people with bipolar disorder -- lie to them. Then we got Gordon himself, who has never sounded more clear and lucid, saying "I am not here to boost you and Inc's image." The look on Mia's face as she realised the camera was getting all this. I doubt we will be seeing Gordon on camera again, which is a shame. I find Wendy both arrogant and insecure, and her mother even more so. Her mother is no Miss Dorothy (Candiace's mother). Ashley's had her time, and that divorce is never going to happen if it means Demon Darby has to pay a set alimony. I am no Gizelle fan, but the look on her face when Jassi was explaining her situation. It was the same stank face her father made when Pastor Holy Whore sat down next to him at that restaurant a few seasons back. I believe Karen when she said she was not eating from stress. She was very thin this episode and her face drawn. Luckily, she still has her wits about her and handled that clown Mia without breaking a sweat. TJ is giving me 'He's just not that into you, sweetie.' Another reason Stacey reminds me of Kenya Moore her first season. He seems to be a boyfriend for hire, but for some reason, Stacey is so charming that I'm not even mad at the fakery. I feel like she’s practically winking to camera.

This says to me that Bravo do not know what to do with RHOA without Kenya. And so they arranged for this interview in order to integrate her back into the cast. Maybe they didn't have the material to go on with the show after her mid season pause and they want to edit the show around her. Or maybe I'm projecting. Either way, it is a high profile apology tour. She even brought Brooklyn with her.

Tell us how you really feel, Taoboi! I was all caught up in the story until the final 5 seconds, and then I was like... that's it? The whole trailer was predicated on a one-episode prank? Who do I blame for this? Erin? She's always pulling this ish. But ultimately the blame must rest with Mediocre Mastermind Eric Fuller, who just blew his fifth chance on a RH show. If Andy is pissed, well, then... the HWs will get the blame, but the fault lies with he who effed up a decent thing with this show. And like you, I liked the individual scenes. Mel and Abe is the bromance I never knew I needed in my life. When he talked so authentically about exploring his sexuality in college, I thought the RH was slowly breaking new ground. Jessel with her mom. Sai with her daughter. Erin and Rebecca bonding. Ubah at the game. Ubah is really growing on me this season. I think she really likes Sai, Jenna and Erin and that's unexpected to see. Rebecca was even coming out of her perfectly put-together shell. I see Erin just announced her pregnancy, like she did something strategic there. Brynn got caught in her own pot-stirring. She and Fuller are bringing out the worst in each other. I continue to watch because still enjoying the show. But I am curious how they steady the boat from here.

No, I didn't know. Me and Terri don't confide in each other like that. 😉 That initial IG post she put out there? "I'm filing for divorce... I'm prioritising my kids" made it sound like she was divorcing Edwin because he did something. If there's one thing that Terri lives for, it is playing the sainted victim. And indeed, now we have this blurb from (cough) "a source close to Teddi": https://x.com/queensofbravo/status/1857123994635325828 Now she has "the balls" to divorce Edwin. Shes no longer gonna live in fear, you guys! He cheated first! Yes, she had an affair with the horse trainer whose wife is pregnant, but she's prioritising the kids! The Mellencamps are family and faith-based! Just like Lori Loughlin. I know one should never relish in the misfortune of others. It's bad karma. Moreover, that's exactly what Terri would do. Not so long ago, she was on OC, using her appearance to, once again, kick Vicki when she is pretty much already down. I know there is no love lost between viewers on this thread and Vicki, but that Two T's podcast is used often to settle scores with a bunch of different HWs. Best believe that if Vicki were still a HW welding big leverage on a show, Teddi would mind her words. And if any other HW were caught cheating, Terri 'Never will I ever tell a lie' DiMarco would be all over her with the moral judgement. As someone once described her on this very thread, Terri is that girl at school who would snitch on you to the principal, but do the same thing you were caught doing on the sly. Thank you for keeping us focused on the big picture. They'd better not bring her back.

@DynamiteKiddo that was an absolute bombastic post (in the best sense of the word) and i have to agree with you: this has been the best OC season in about a decade. I really do believe that it stands up to sone of the OC's best seasons. And i also kind of agree with you and @Gray Bunny about Shannon. I think she was unfairly treated by her cast mates and Production. Tamra and Alexis were so egregiously awful to her. However, Shannon managed to sidestep some element of accountability by falling willingly into a victim role. The lawsuit pushed by Johnny J and Dumblexis overshadowed the DUI, and as a result of it, I am cheering on Tamra and Alexis's inevitable TV downfall. I'd be interested to know how you feel about Gina and Emily after this first part of reunion. Because Emily, who I have long liked (and I like Shane too), has been awful. As the self-appointed legal expert (read: a snoop who trawled the legal sector internet), she's blasting Katie, Jenn and Shannon here there and everywhere. Girl, you were a copyright lawyer, not a criminal prosecutor. Sit down. Heather pretty much tore Katie apart. It's funny how this reunion painted a picture of Katie which I had never picked up on before, which is that she might be shady and a bit of a liar. Nevertheless, weirdly, my sympathy is with her, especially when she broke down about having to concede custody of her kids to her ex-husband when she was broke and living in a facility.

I know we are all greatly distracted right now -- with good reason -- but I saw this just now. I hadn't even realised that she was filing for divorce.

I would slightly disagree with your statement that RHONY sucks (although I am worried about Eric Fuller's deepening malign influence), but nevertheless, your post was 🔥 🔥 . And agree with @Antoyne -- Potomac is back! I didn't expect the three newbies to give as much as they have, but I'm literally like Robyn who? Candiace who? This time last season, we had to suffer through three long, painfully dull, Austin TX episodes. This year, we've got Ashley and Jacqueline getting their asses deservedly handed to them. Ashley has always ducked any accountability for her underhanded actions (the fight at GnA, for example) -- Keiarna hasn't forgotten, though, and I hope she keeps bringing it up. Meanwhile, Mia's Mouthpiece thought she could make a bid for relevancy by bringing down Karen, but Karen barely broke a sweat and effectively backed that fool into a corner with her own words. Wendy always feels forced and cringe to me, pretending this is the best birthday ever when we know this celebration is, at best, for the cameras. Those smirks when Mia came for Karen also weren't particularly nice for someone who is supposedly her close friend. And her sneering reaction to Stacey's beau in the VTs confirms my view that Wendy is a snob, always putting down the people she thinks are less than her while trying to kiss up to the Gizelles of this world. I will admit, the footage of tiny Adore, Angel and Grace was so cute. I can't believe Potomac has been on the airwaves that long. Pastor HW gave a speech about Gizelle's dad which made it sound like her dad was pretty much the main father figure for those three girls, and not the trifling Pastor. Which does not surprise me in the least. Gizelle's father seems like he was a truly stand-up, honorable man. People are acting like Budget Kim Kardashian, aka Mia, is the villain this season, but she's always been like this! An untrustworthy fairweather friend and wife. I'm not even going to touch on the manipulative 'I love you' said to G on the phone.

I am actually in shock at how good OC has been this season. Not a filler episode once. The scene where Jenn finally got to drag a barefaced Gollum Tamra (makeup artists really do perform extraordinary feats of magic) was cathartic for this longtime viewer. Finally, someone not afraid to go up against her. Even Emily is overtly careful to keep Tamra on her good side. The show felt like a return to S8-9, not least with the old Tamra-Heather evil alliance back in lockstep. God knows why Emily did Heather's bidding in the finale episode. I look forward to the rest of the group taking them to task, starting with Katie who seems to have triggered some kind of jealous ire out of Heather. This makes me very happy. Sonja finally has a place all of her very own, and in a city she enjoys. West Palm Beach has literally become the old Upper East and Upper West Side of Manhattan, and a lot of her closest friends have houses in the Miami area. Thank you for going back to respond to my post, and for your kind words about my mom. I have no doubts, Taoboi, that you must be a top-notch and very considerate client-facing professional. Because you have a lot of empathy for people, and you seek to communicatewith others. I'll bet all the guests you went the extra mile for remembers that you made their time in San Diego so much better -- especially the guest who returned a second time. People remember kindnesses.

I need to watch the episode again! Certainly social media is dragging the hell out of Brynn at the moment. I get it. She's doing too much to antagonise, start drama, and then she reverses into victimhood if things don't go her way. She's landed on Ubah because she thinks Ubah can be easily antagonised into going ballistic. And speaking of victims.... Kyle's Tears are making multiple guest appearances on this coming season of Encino Bay. "Kyle says PK texts her." Oooo -- things are getting spicy. From Mo to PK -- how far we fall, Kyle! I fear this will be the only story on BH this season -- we saw nothing of Erika, for example. (Not that I need another round of Erika's budget concerts in Vegas).

Interesting that production left that in, because it was SO blatant. It was almost breaking the fourth wall. It also contextualizes why Ubah called Brynn a snake. It's not just trying to shut Ubah down from expressing herself. It's the fact that Brynn is playing a certain game now and is not trustworthy. Ubah has said it, Erin has said it, Sai has said it. They all are playing THE game to an extent, but there are some friendships there that may be more than just alliances (Erin and Ubah, for example). The fact that Brynn is going over and above is shaking the group dynamic and may be worth highlighting on the show itself, instead of shuffling it to Behind The Scenes. I want to clarify that while I enjoy Brynn creating drama in this episode, I am not Team Brynn when it comes to her situation with Ubah. I am Team Ubah. My mom is a foreigner, and English is not her first language. She has struggled to defend herself against people who can, verbally, run rings around her in English, distract her from her train of thought, etc. Even my dad has done it to get his way. It is verbal gaslighting. I've been her advocate when she needs to write legalistic letters or emails. It doesn't mean my mom is not smart, because she is -- she thinks in more than one language and cannot always get to the punch in 5 seconds or less. It is for that reason I wish Erin had stuck up for her BFF Ubah more. So I feel for Ubah and I see what Brynn is doing. Brynn is super smart (in English -- does she speak Swahili?), and she's quick-witted, and her brain is 5 seconds ahead of her mouth. The way she was lounging as Ubah talked, you know that Brynn knows. She did indeed pull the victim act as you say, maybe because she saw how unexpectedly in control Ubah was in that moment. But! I also think Brynn was impacted by the previous morning's shouting match, because it is actually really stressful to be shouted at! Who knew? The episode was the most watchable of nuRHONY thus far. It felt, as you mentioned, a little like OG RHONY in the Hamptons. I liked their vibe with each other. Some casts (naming no names -- 👀 SLC) despise each other. Not this cast. They genuinely seem to enjoy each other's company in most circumstances. Ubah and Brynn about to make up was actually pretty sweet to say -- until it went left. Or Jenna lending Brynn her diamonds. Raquel confessing to Brynn and Jessel. The Prank. These were highlights. I'm psyched for the Clueless party next week. The quotes from that epic film are already filling up my brain (Cher's dad had the best ones).

Great RHONY episode in the Hamptons. Raquel talking about her father showed why she was given a HW spot. And Brynn remains the MVP of the group. As messy as she is, as much as I understand what Ubah was trying to say about English not being her first language and Brynn running circles around her verbally and cutting her right to speak, I love Messy Aquarian Brynn. And I love the friendships being formed by this group. Even Sai was fun this episode.

So much YES to all those. Early years 90210 was so exciting to watch! That whole summer season at the country club was GOLD. When the Walshes were busted out of their Beverly Hills home during the college years, 90210 lost a lynchpin and its moorings. And yes, while my parents were strict and would probably ban me from a cellphone were I a teenager today, when it came to Melrose and other shows, my parents kind of shrugged and my mom said "Billy is such a nice looking young fellow. He should really cut his hair, though!" Good episode. I've said it before, but Gizelle's dorters and Kal really humanise her and do a lot to burnish her image. La Dame is playing her cards close to her chest, and does not trust either Gizelle or Jacqueline or Mia. I'm looking forward to next week but I'm not sure if everyone going after her is going to necessarily win ne over to their side. Jacqueline, as you said, is basically Mia's proxy and mouthpiece now. Anything to stay on the show. Mia is giving us content galore, but I don't like how she's using Jeremiah as a pawn to keep Inc engaged and Gordon on a string. Stacey is giving me Kenya vibes, but in a good way. I think her relationship with JT (unlike Kenya's hired hand that first season) is real. Keiarna's man, meanwhile, does not seem like he's into her. Wendy feels displaced from the group, though the idea of Eddie's family coming back to the fold is interesting. Meanwhile, Ashley getting dragged by Karen and the newbies is overdue and welcome.

There was a fanzine called I Hate Brenda! which captured and encouraged the mood at the time. The organization did emphasize that it was not anti-Shannen Doherty, but rather anti-the character, and apparently they did meet Shannen at the time and ended up kind of loving her! Nevertheless, this was a time when people (including writers and producers) couldn't tell the difference between Hate and Love to Hate. Brenda was definitely in the latter group. I remember watching 90210 with groups of friends, and Brenda would be jeered, but the energy would increase the moment she entered a scene. Once she left the show, I literally had no desire to watch, and numbers across the board dwindles for those later seasons (even another OG Brenda, Vanessa Marcil, couldn't turn it around, though she tried hard and was the most watchable part of the latter years). No shade to Dylan & Kelly fans, but that couple just didn't have the longevity. The season after Shannen left, TPTB had Dylan marrying somebody else and doing his Godfather moment when his father-in-law accidentally killed Dylan's wife and his own daughter -- shades of Click Boom! Moreover, the season you talk about, that freshman-college season, was when I felt most supportive of Brenda. Everything that happened to her, the pain, the loneliness as her friends abandoned her and told her to 'just get over it!', the growth, the pulling away from old friendships, I could relate to it all. The fact that Brenda had the strength to leave and go it alone to discover her own path was a wonderfully fitting epitaph for the character. She will always be The One That Got Away, not just for Dylan but for the show itself.

RHOC Catching up on OC, and this season is one of the best I've seen across all franchises in some time. The cast is tight, it has history with each other, and little individual quirks that keep individual interactions percolating. Whether it's Shannon with Tamra and Heather, Heather's inability to form meaningful friendships with the ladies, Emily becoming mean whenever she hangs with Tamra, the greatness of Jenn, and Katie is shaping up to be a really good addition with compelling backstory. I hope we get to see her meeting her Korean birth mom. It's not just because they are in London that this trip feels kind of luxurious and special-- eagle-eyed longtime viewers may recognise the hotel from RHONY's cast trip in S6, hosted by Heather, or from old-school Made in Chelsea. The SLs are building to a crescendo, and Jenn confronting Tamra was Chef's Kiss. Finally Tamra called out on her underhand methods. Tamra is a necessary evil on the show IMO, bit that doesn't mean she should not be called to account. And she has been. #fullmoon Haa given me the most difficult work month of my career. I totally understand not being to read people or comments. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. I just wanted to defend Karen a bit, but this season may change all our perceptions, who knows. My YouTube is giving me clips of 90210 during the freshman college season, and Shannen was incandescent in it. Harshly treated by the writers and audience at the time, in hindsight she was the lynchpin of the show and 90210 was never the same after she departed.

I know you dont hate her, I was just messing with you! Tha'ts Potomac for you. We go up and down on these women with a dime. And P.S.: I love your Brenda avatar. ❤️

*GASP * NO, Taoboi, say it isn't so! Hate? Please don't say you hate Karen Huger! 😅 She has disappointed you. I get it. For the life of me, I don't know why she would, out of the blue, do this. Obviously she's done petty sh!t like this before. I honestly think that Karen miscalculated. She may have thought this would be the usual, petty, 'duelling events' type stuff we used to see in S1. (Cue 5 straight episodes talking about etiquette). Instead, it's now become personal for Gizelle, and maybe parts of the audience who remember Gizelle's father and his iconic guest appearances (I mean, the tour of the plantation alone was up there with RHOA's episode in a township in South Africa. Also his hot mic moment about Jamal Bryant!). I imagine this drams will play for weeks. And weeks. If i were Production and Gizelle were my asset, I'd be thanking Karen for uniting most of the audience behind Gizelle for once, and helping to create a drama which prompted more viewers to tune in this week. As for the show as a whole, it is harking back to the early, lighter seasons this year. That's probably a good thing. For someone usually instinctively astute (if vicious in her execution).I am sort of stunned how badly Tamra has played her hand this season. There were signs of this last season when she went too hard at Heather and failed. I can't believe she thought ganging up on someone who had a DUI, has struggled with alcohol, and is facing lawsuits, would be a smart move this year. She keeps doubling down on her Shannon-hate, but now that her proxy Alexis has been almost run off the show, she's picked a fight with someone she thought would be the weak link -- Jenn. Completely underestimating how Jenn's naturalness and life story would endear the audience to her. This 'autism' move is so ill-informed, I have to imagine Tamra is now worried for her job and is just throwing anything out there to see what sticks.

See, now you are thinking like a top-tier RH producer. I'm not sure this crew running RHOP are that, but I am betting on what happened this episode being dragged out and talked about all season long. By the way, I like newbie Stacey. Does she remind anybody a little of newbie Katie on OC?

I'm glad you posted this, because I was ready to tear Wendy a new one for running to Gizelle in her most overpriced hoochie-bird outfit for that womp-womp of a lunch. Giz didn't even bother to change out of her floral hoisedress! It appeared as if Wendy was letting the whole mess fly by, like the root of the fight was Gizelle not saying hello to Wendy at some event? When all I remember with Gizelle doubling down at reunion (despite Andy giving her about 12 outs) on her assertion that it was cool that Wendy got assaulted by Mia "because I. Don't. Like. Huh." So I'm glad Wendy did namecheck the incident and im side-eying Production for once again covering for that harpy. Haven't seen the gala event yet so maybe my view on Gizelle will soften. However, I did love seeing Keairna again. I wondered why she wasn't part of the show this season.

I love NYC too -- it's the show I look forward to watching straight out of the gate each week. Love the fashions, decor and whole vibe. There's story with Erin and Abe and the women's interactions, and it feels fresh and well judged. I can't believe a 'newbie' show is giving me the entertainment I'm looking for, but here we are. By the same token, I'm also enjoying the grandmammy of RHs: OC. The fact that an organic, outside event is impacting the group has refreshed the show. Tamra is trying way too hard to force story, but we need a villain to root against, and I'm rooting for Shannon, who ended Dumb Alexis's brief tenure on the show in one elegant, fell swoop. Potomac: Karen is my fave HW of all current HWs, and I feel automatically protective of her. Even if she's going about the DUI in the opposite way Shannon is. I guess because Shannon couldn't hide from the CC TV footage we all saw. Karen seems to be following her lawyer's advice to neither deny nor admit to anything until the legal process plays out. We will see how she handles it this season. Mia and Wendy are gunning for her. And I wish she didn't have to cosy up to Gizelle who, I feel, is only nice to her in order to get the tea and bring her down. If Charrisse and Robyn were still on the show, they'd be going hard for her and bringing the entire group against her. Ashley got a reprieve and is trying to justify her place, but im not feeling it. I'm not feeling Wendy either, who is just not natural on camera in expressing her true self. Mia's story is compelling, but whenever Gordon is on, I find myself sympathizing with him much more than her. I still watch and want to watch RHs. It is far from its glory era, but i still hope the franchises pull through. The night ratings are disappointing to say the least, but it's clear so many of us stream the shows during the course of the week. I'd give anything to know the streaming numbers as well, because IMO they are the game changer. I suspect Potomac is doing moderately OK in streaming. The weird month of no RHs this spring did not help, nor did forcing NJ in its current incarnation on the world. People are exhausted by that cast. But to your point about tighter seasons and episode orders, I agree completely. The problem is that Bravo has become lumbering and slow-reacting, as opposed to proactive with these shows.

NuRHONY: As lowkey as this premiere was, I am thrilled my insecure Millennial poptarts are back. Too early to tell how the newbie will turn out (and it looks like Rebecca Minkoff is being almost entirely edited out of the season), but I'm good with the dynamics between Sai, Brynn, Erin, Jenna and Jessel. Sai is owning it somewhat, so I'll give her props, even though her blow-up at Brynn at the end reminded me of the old, performatively-outraged Sai looking to blame someone else. Looks like Brynn is the villain this season -- or at least, Erin and Sai are super-eager to paint her the villain. I still enjoy her, and her new apartment is seriously one of the best single-girl apartments I have seen on a RH show. The design alone is Chef's Kiss. Erin is Erin, superbly self-centered, but the tension with Abe is a new twist. Pavit still entertains the hell out of me.

For me, it was during S1. Heather was such a doormat to Jen, but I just couldn't connect the words of self-deprecation she was saying with her confident smirk. So I figured she was playing victim. The S1 finale confirmed it, as did reunion. She was OTT in her self-righteous indignation. This is one reason I've had a hard time connecting with SLC sometimes -- Jen Shah was awful from the first episode, Heather was always suspect, Lisa has never deviated from her innate vapidity, Whitney is nowhere near as smart & strategic as she thinks she is. I've always rated Meredith, though.

And that is why DH's loss is so seismic: he was one of the most central figures on set for the cast and crew. They looked to him for support, love, laughs and leadership. He fulfilled on all counts, and now there is a huge hole in that Days community.

Catching up on OC, and wow Tamra is really burning those bridges with the audience. It's not even that Ryan is some stand-up guy -- he comes across as a kiss-ass. His podcast comments were not the smartest. But I respect Eddie's attitude of 'I'll say hello, but won't engage with you because I don't like what you did' versus Tamra's constant baiting and looking for a fight. The way Eddie looked at her, and significantly, did not follow her out when she did her dramatic walk-off spoke volumes. Also Tamra's glee over Shannon's legal troubles and the butt-dial thing wasn't her greatest look. I'm still trying to figure out if the butt-dial was scripted or legitimately happened.

He was so beloved by crew, cast, and Daytime peers.