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@Soapsuds I broke down Dallas 1984/85 ratings in its thread. There was a ratings drop starting March 1985. Five weeks after "Murder Takes the Bus" was broadcast, Murder, She Wrote would shock the world.

Here's what happened on the soaps and two rookie hits the week of March 11-17, 1985. The Cosby Show - The Younger Woman (episode 21, March 14, rating 28.3, #1): Cliff's widowed friend has found a new girlfriend who is young enough to be his daughter. Dynasty - Photo Finish (March 13, rating 24.2, 2nd): Sammy Jo is revealed as the person behind the incriminating photos being sent to Krystle and Blake. Prince Michael asks Amanda to marry him. Sammy Jo meets a woman who looks very much like Krystle. Dallas - The Verdict (March 15, rating 22.7, 5th): Ewing 17 is shut down for contaminating drinking water. Jamie rebuffs Cliff's advances. A verdict is handed down in Jenna's trial. Murder, She Wrote - Murder Takes the Bus (episode 19, March 17, rating 22.4, 6th): Jessica and Sheriff Amos Tupper are on their way to Portland when the sheriff's car breaks down. Anxious to reach their destination, they take a bus - not knowing that a killer is on board. This episode was the first time Murder, She Wrote finished right behind Dallas and at the time it was the smallest ratings point separation between the two (0.3). Falcon Crest - The Trial (March 15, rating 17.6, 20th): Richard bribes the judge presiding over Lance's trial. Melissa considers hiring a surrogate mother. Melissa's cousin Robin arrives. No Knots Landing on March 14.

Do you think Andre/Dani hook ups are going to turn into love?

I know the EP switch from JFP to Michael Laibson was May 1995 but when did Megan McTavish become HW? Laibson/McTavish were both gone in 1996.

I thought there would be another Andre/Dani hook up but instead he comforted her with a hug. Their booty call hook ups are slowly turning into love, just watch.

Mike Manning (Smitty) - born April 12, 1987 Brandon Claybon (Martin) - born October 10, 1988 Sean Freeman (Andre) - born May 5, 1989 or 1988 Jibre Hordges (Jacob) - born June 14, 1993 Alex Alegria (Tomas) - age not found Ben Gavin (Derek) - age not found Timon Kyle Durrett (Bill) - born July 12, 1973 Maurice Johnson (Ted) - born February 10, 1979 Clifton Davis (Vernon) - born October 4, 1945 I see what's going on here. The young guys are the hotness.

Hahaha. Who do you think is the hotness of BtG?

So far this month my reactions ranged from "what is this mess?" to "make it make sense".

Clayton Norcross wasn't any better acting-wise, but he was allegedly fired for substance abuse. His firing was part of why I always thought Bill Bell was zero tolerance for substance abuse.

Are you checking for Conner Floyd? I'm not seeing it.

I know. I can barely keep up with this thread

Thank you @ChickenNuggetz92 and @BoldRestless.

Knight Rider scheduling 1982/83: Friday 9 pm, head-to-head w/ Dallas. No episode finished ahead of Dallas. Final rating below the Top 30, but renewed for season 2. 1983/84: Sunday 8 pm. Final rating 25th, tied w/ CBS Tuesday Movie, Webster (first season), Alice, Hardcastle and McCormick (first season). 1984/85: Sunday 8 pm, head-to-head w/ Murder, She Wrote (first season). September 30, 1984 Knight Rider season 3 premiere tied w/ Murder, She Wrote series premiere. Final rating below the Top 30. 1985/86: September-December 1985 Friday 8 pm. January-April 1986 Friday 9 pm, head-to-head w/ Dallas. No episode at Friday 9 pm finished ahead of Dallas. Final rating below the Top 30. Cancelled.

ABC did not have a regular Friday 9 pm series beat Dallas until Mr. Belvedere in 1989. I broke down Dallas time slot losses to regular series in its thread.

In the early years of B&B, Ronn Moss was fortunate to have scene partners Susan Flannery and Joanna Johnson to carry him through his scenes. In all the years I've watched daytime, Ronn Moss is probably the only actor whose acting got progressively worse the longer he played his character. Then again Bradley writing didn't help matters either.

@dragonflies Dead at that tweet 🤣

@Liberty City It might still be on Plex.

I said "the writing during the Potter and Calhoun eras", so that means Dobsons and Long/Curlee respectively.

I haven't seen a lot of CB Alan, but were there times he could be considered an anti-hero/romantic leading man? I never thought of Roger as an anti-hero/romantic leading man. Roger was a villain, but he was also a complex and layered character. MZ acting and the writing during the Potter and Calhoun eras is what allowed Roger to be more than just a one-dimensional villain.

Today's show didn't feel like a Friday episode. Yesterday's totally did. Maybe they're trying to slow the pace to ease into the March Madness break. Oh yes. Agree.

Back to GL 1977-1980, who wins MZ Roger vs. CB Alan?

James Stenbeck would never be considered an anti-hero/romantic leading man.

Villains.

When I think of CBS daytime soap opera villains, my top four in date order are MZ Roger, CB Alan, James Stenbeck, Victor Newman.

Roger was the OG and GOAT of CBS soap opera villains and we should give MZ his flowers for that. Roger ran so JR and Victor could walk.