Everything posted by Khan
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The Doctors Discussion Thread
But I think it goes deeper than "he didn't fit the show" or "TD was his worst HW'ing stint." Aside from Rita Lakin, no writer or writing team for TD has been able to hold my interest. I guess I shouldn't say the problem lies with the show itself. However, for me, the recurring issue is that none of these characters are well developed. They appear to be nothing more than vessels to bring forth the plots.
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The Doctors Discussion Thread
When Douglas Marland, the writer who couldn't turn me away even during the worst of storylines (*cough*CarolynCrawford*cough*), can't hold my interest in TD, then I have to accept this show was never for me.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Yeah, but latter-day Jackie made (or makes) peak-period Crystal look like that recovering heroin addict on those Addiction Network commercials.
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The Politics Thread
I just hate this misconception that they (and others) are bringing over their worst criminals when we have more than enough criminals of our own to keep us all up at night.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? Because, I don't. Forget that her tweet was racist. Slamming Valerie Jarrett's physical appearance at all is something you'd expect a man to do. Not someone who's supposed to be a feminist. As an African-American, I accept her apology, but I'm not letting her off the hook, ever. She's a big girl. She should've known better than to jeopardize two hundred people's livelihoods with that stupid tweet. And the fact that she can disappear from public life now and never worry about money again...? I'm sorry, I'm just all out of [!@#$%^&*] to give her. What, Jackie can't have TWO love interests? Fine, but if and when I suggest that adding Brett Butler to the cast will save this show, I don't want to hear a word from you. Not. One. Word. (Relax, I'm never going to suggest such a thing.)
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
He could be a new love interest for Bev, and it would make more sense than being one for Jackie.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Same. (See above.) Another casting suggestion: Topher Grace ("That '70's Show") as a recurring love interest for Becky.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
That would make more sense. However, Broderick is over twenty years their senior. I just wish they could coax George Clooney into coming back.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Meanwhile: Matthew Broderick to Recur on "The Conners" As a love interest...FOR JACKIE?? I can't see it, but...okay.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
"Who Jackie"? I don't know if I WANT to know what that's about.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
But, there's a difference between participating in and running a writers' room, and merely farting on scripts you think are garbage and demanding rewrites on the set. And she didn't do the latter (or reduce writers to mere numbers, because she didn't want to bother learning their names), because she cared about the quality of the writing either. Read Laurie Gelman's thoughts here, if you haven't already. (I had heard about the farting on scripts before I did; I'm glad she confirmed it.) And I refuse to believe she hired any writers who weren't Caucasian or Jewish. (I'm a credits watcher. I know better.) Unless those other writers were working w/o any credit (which is wrong), the ethnic, racial and even gender composition of her writing staffs were never "more than was the norm." If anything, they were about "inclusive" or "diverse" as every other show out there, then and now.
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The Politics Thread
Trust me, if he had been running in OK, he'd have been a shoo-in, dead or not.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Me neither. Maybe that'll change one day, but I hope not before someone gives Rosey that true come-to-Jesus talk she's needed since 1989. We've said this already, so it probably doesn't bear repeating. Nevertheless, given Rosey's penchant for outrageous, self-destructive behavior, I believe she was bound to go off the proverbial rails, sooner or later. She's always been pathologically afraid of her own success; so, if anyone was shocked by her tweet, then I suggest they haven't been paying attention. The thing is, though, had this happened BEFORE the advent of social media and BEFORE an African-American woman was running her network, then I think Rosey would have been allowed to remain on the show. Yes, she would have caught hell for saying what she said (if not on something like Twitter, then maybe to a writer for some magazine, or during an on-air interview with some bobblehead from "Entertainment Tonight"). However, the suits at ABC, who still would have been all-white and all-male at that point, would have jumped on her let-me-go-on-an-apology-tour plan in a heartbeat. But, like I said, that was in an era when the likes of Channing Dungey weren't running major TV networks; and even though the revival series was bringing big(ish) ratings and ad dollars to ABC, at the end of the day, Dungey is still a black woman, and black women are just not here for anyone's bullshit. Period. One more note: I've said this before as well, but I've never bought this image of Rosey as an enlightened feminist who is always bucking the white, male establishment. I mean, you offer this narrative of being the star and namesake of your network's biggest hit series; someone who can hire and fire others at will, while simultaneously making "the big swinging dicks" at the network cringe and quake with fear because YOU hold all the power and they don't. Yet, you never employ a female show runner, even though your series has a strong, female-centric POV; you treat your female AND male writers and other staff so horribly that many end up in therapy and/or swear off ever working in the business again; and when different people bring up the fact that your show, which is set ostensibly in the midwest and around working-class people, hardly ever includes minorities or those who have been marginalized and disenfranchised by so-called white Christian men, either on-screen or off, your response is always, "Well, I want(ed) to, but those jerks at the network won't/wouldn't let me." Contrast her track record with Sara Gilbert's, who, as EP/co-star of the new series, has had at least one female (Whitney Cummings) running the writers' room; an African-American lesbian (Wanda Sykes) contributing to the scripts; two other, AA actresses as part of the regular cast (and a part of the Conner family to boot!); and a set of recurring characters (the new Muslim neighbors) who are most decidedly NOT white OR Christian (even though they often ended up being the butt of Roseanne's Archie Bunker-like jokes). Now THAT, ladies and gentlemen (and Rosey), is feminism.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Emma Kenney's good, but the kid who plays Mark is just a little too "camera-ready," for lack of a better word. Lecy and Sara (and even Michael) were more believable when THEY were younger, because they didn't come across as showbiz kids. That was one of the best attributes about the original series, IMO. You know, I still think this actually might be a good -- no, make that great -- idea? As of right now, Jackie remains unattached; and Andy...well, who the hell knows what he's up to. Clooney could pop in for an arc that explores a Booker/Jackie reunion without keeping him from other commitments.
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The Politics Thread
I'm DEAD just from reading that tweet, lol. It's sort of like what someone said about Trump and (Kan)Ye together in the WH (and I'm paraphrasing): it's rare when a photo can offend black Americans and white supremacists at the same time.
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The Politics Thread
"Black Americans for the President's Agenda," eh? So, who does THAT organization consist of? LOL!!
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
I get what you mean, lol. Nevertheless, it felt so weird not to see Roseanne, even if the Roseanne Conner of the reboot/revival had little in common with the Roseanne Conner of the original series.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
I never watched "Friends," so....
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
If and when Dan feels ready to start dating again, I hope the writers at least think about casting Kathleen Turner. She'd be awesome as a chain-smoking, trash-talking barmaid who sets everyone's teeth on edge. JS.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Seeing Dan in that bed for the first time w/o Roseanne was, for me, the most gut-wrenching moment of all. I hadn't been that affected since the first time I watched Archie Bunker cry over Edith's slipper. He did. Let's be honest, as many people as they have in that cast right now, Jerry and Andy would just be two more characters struggling for airtime.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
I kinda wish it had been Darlene, though. Now that she and David are splitsville, it'd be good to see Darlene gradually realize she's a lesbian (since I've never bought her with any male anyway). I hate to say it, because there was a lot that I loved about the episode, but I think this'll be the end of the line for the Conner family. The ensemble is solid, but it's really missing something without Rosey. But, if I'm proven wrong and it does live to see another season, then I'm going to need another death in that family, because I can't take anymore of "Wacky Jackie." I just can't.
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The Politics Thread
Dear God. I just hope she and her family will be okay from this.
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"The Conners" Discussion Thread
Oh, Lord. That just puts a whole different spin on the episode where .
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The Politics Thread
I had to google her to find out what you were talking about...and I can't believe she took the bait. It's another form of birtherism, plain and simple; and nobody seems to understand that telling Trump to eff off would suffice.
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The Politics Thread
Frankly, I'm rooting for the witches. (Oh, no. As it turns out, one of my friends from NYC owns or co-owns the bookstore where the hex-laying will take place. This is going to make for me and Mama Khan's most awkward convo ever.)