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At this point, I think some of us would be happy if GH were to drop the story altogether, lol.

Sorry, I was joking.

I swear there came a point when CJ was retconned out of existence, lol.

Remember: it wasn't the break-in that brought down the Nixon administration, it was the clumsy attempt at covering it up.

That's when you need Tracy to step in and say, "What is the MATTER with you people!? Have we forgotten that Drew and Carly COMMITTED. A CRIME? If Ned hadn't have turned them in, I would've! "Ned and Drew are Quartermaines, and Quartermaines do not rat each other out! End of!"

I don't understand why Ned is all in a huff about people believing he's the one who turned in Drew and Carly. If I were Ned, I'd be more like, "Well, whether I turned them in or I didn't, Drew and Carly were idiots to think they could get away with keeping their relationship under wraps, so whatever happens to them, they had it coming! Now, what's for lunch?"

Frankly, @John, I wish Dorian had reunited with Herb Callison instead. Anthony Call and Robin Strasser were just so good together, lol. I can see why. Natalie would not have lasted for very long had she been Ben and Gina's daughter. I don't think I would have minded Natalie being Clint and Viki's daughter had the show kept the story simple, emphasized the emotional beats over the shocking twists and trusted the audience more. It's all the attempts to have Jessica be a Buchanan after all that lost me.

I think Natalie was created with Tina (and Tina and Viki's relationship) in mind. Even after she got pregnant by Will, Jessica was Viki's "perfect" daughter - likely because, as @Vee said, Erin Torpey was too intelligent to portray Jessica as a stereotypical damsel in distress. Jessica wasn't "messy" enough to keep herself and Viki in angst...but Natalie could've been. I think we were going to learn that Jessica's biological parents were Roxy and Mitch. I think the revelation would have caused a temporary rift between Jessica and Viki, as Jessica struggled with a sudden loss of identity. "If I'm not Clint and Viki's daughter," she'd be asking, "then who am I?". I think Mitch was brought back (even though we saw him die on-screen) so that he could be there as Jessica learned the truth; and I think Jessica would have reached out to him and to Roxy (as Viki looked on in dismay) in an attempt to replace the ties she believed she had lost with the parents who had raised her. But, once Jessica realized that her biological parents were no damn good, Roxy and Mitch would have been disposed of, and Jessica and Viki would have tearfully reunited. Jessica still wouldn't be a "real" Buchanan anymore, but Viki (and Clint) would have "adopted" her; and Natalie would always be torn between her sense of devotion toward her adoptive sister and her fears that her biological parents preferred Jessica over their own child. Some of that actually played out, of course, but I think the key fact in the story - that Alison Perkins switched Jessica and Natalie at birth - was changed early on, because the EP and HW's were more concerned with surprising the audience than with just trusting that they would hang on to see how it all played out.

Plus, they were fighting over John McBain, which was just about the biggest WTF ever, lol.

Again, as long as she doesn't end up operating a donut shop or a dry cleaners out of that space, we'll be okay, lol.

I agree. In a way, they reminded me of Judith Light and Brynn Thayer, with Melissa Archer as the Karen, and Erin Torpey as the Jenny. Respectfully, though, I have to disagree with you once more, @Vee, about the Jessica/Natalie switcheroo, lol. I still believe Gary Tomlin intended all along for Natalie to be Clint and Viki's one and only daughter and that he and Broderick/Whitesell changed their minds only because the audience was already ahead of them.

I hope so, too, lol.

We need an UM thread on this board, lol.

This is way, way, WAY off-topic, but I think Scott Caan is sexy af.

Maybe something's inside or underneath that garage that only Mrs. Hammond knows about?

As long as Ms. Wu doesn't end up being like Ms. Swan or Mrs. Noh Nang Ning, I think we'll be okay, lol.

I agree. In retrospect, though, I can't blame Gary Tomlin for attempting to inject some levity into OLTL in order to help it stand out from all the other shows. He just needed someone to say, "Maybe we shouldn't include the mariachi band next time, Gare."

I agree. I emailed PlutoTV recently and asked them to consider adding "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous," "Solid Gold," "Soul Train" and the Ed McMahon version of "Star Search" to their lineup. Again, music clearances might be an issue, but at least three of those four shows should be part of the Paramount/Viacom library.

Fortunately, DAYS is good to go until 2034.

The revival series really needed a Peter Dunne.

Wait...

I wonder if that was because the writing wasn't there and they had to scream and over-act in order to compensate?

It seems like it is. I flipped to their Pluto TV channel recently while taking a break from binge-watching "Unsolved Mysteries," and I saw that the episodes running on there only went back to, like, 2018? I really believe Y&R, DAYS and others are afraid to go too far back into their archives, because of music clearance issues, and because they're afraid people will stop watching the current episodes and watch only the older ones.

I agree here, too. I was always confused as to whom the 2012 series was really for. Was it purely for those who had watched the original series? Or was the revival series aiming for a new and maybe younger audience, who might have a passing remembrance of it? Plus, it seemed like the revival series was trying to be a combination of the original series' first couple of seasons, when the stories were smaller and less soapy; and the original DALLAS' later seasons, when it was an all-out soap opera. Maybe it's because people's regard for soaps have fallen even lower than before, but it was like Cynthia Cidre was afraid to let the revival series become a full-fledged soap. I agree, lol! You could argue that J.R.'s visits to Knots Landing were interesting, if only because Larry Hagman and Donna Mills had chemistry. But Abby in ANY version of DALLAS would have been a mistake.

I agree. I knew the revival series was in trouble when Gary and Val returned. The original series never really needed them.