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Proof that the media endorsing fascism at the expense of liberty is not just a 21st century thing.

In other news: 1400 Black women see this orchestrated effort to push Biden out of the election for what it is: https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/4780486-black-women-biden-harris-letter/ From said letter: “Further, we believe it is unfair and disruptive to judge President Biden for having a bad 90-minute debate performance against a serial liar who wants to destroy our democracy and be a dictator-in-chief."

I mean, it really bothers me these days whenever I hear someone say Joe Biden/Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama/whoever was or is just as worse as "The Donald." Last time I checked, no Left-leaning Supreme Court suggested that the president is immune from criminal prosecution for any illegal acts he committed while in office OR that the government absolutely has a right to control what women are allowed to do with their own bodies.

To say that I am heartbroken over the news of Bob Newhart's passing would be a grand understatement. Next to "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," his two shows - "The Bob Newhart Show" and later, just "Newhart" - were the most influential to me as a child and young adult, as well as a lasting reminder of when network TV still trusted their audiences to be intelligent enough to get the jokes, and patient enough to watch the actors in between them. RIP, Bob; and wherever you are, I hope you're bringing down the house with one of your legendary, one-sided phone conversations.

I agree. We cannot pretend anymore that this is all "business as usual." Those days were over for us the moment Donald Trump stepped off that escalator at Trump Tower. I'm not saying that I wish Donald Trump were dead (...okay, maybe I do a little bit, lol...), or that I wish his would-be assassin had been more successful, but I refuse to feign concern for his health and safety, just because that's what human beings have been conditioned to do under these circumstances, regardless of the victim(s)' character. Like @marceline said, Donald Trump is a threat to the entire world. Whether he goes by natural causes, or by another assassin' bullet, or somewhere in between, the point is that he GOES. The sooner, the better, and before he is allowed to cause any more damage than he has already. Yup. I get that folks on the left are feeling desperate, because they know what is at stake, should Trump get re-elected. But I have learned that decisions made out of desperation often are the same decisions that prove the costliest in the end. Yes, you might have your reasons for wanting Joe Biden to step down - and yes, those reasons might be valid - but can you honestly tell the rest of us that there's another candidate out there in the field who can defeat Trump as soundly as Biden still could? Is there anyone out there who has engendered as much support and devotion from the average voter? Certainly, in this case, the adage is true: when you don't know what to do, do nothing. If what you suggest comes to pass, @Vee, it'll have to be up to POC once again to save the others from themselves - and we'll do it, because we know what's at stake (especially for us) if we don't! But, you know, I'd be lying if I, an African-American, said a part of me isn't fed up with my fellow African-Americans constantly being handed the task of dragging this nation back from the brink. Especially when White America never learns its' lesson and never thanks us either.

I agree. I really like how FC was set up in the beginning, with the Giobertis as stand-ins for the audience, who would have been new to that world; and the Channing/Cumsons as their pseudo-Gothic relatives and rivals, who controlled the valley, and who would have provided some intrigue on occasion. The only change I'd make would be to combine Emma and Julia into one character (as Lance's mentally unstable mother, who was unable to raise Lance herself - leaving the task entirely to Angela - and whom Lance regards more like a sibling than he does his actual parent).

Same here. Those episodes were rough, like DALLAS's and KL's earliest episodes were rough, but they also showed some promise. Moreover, given all that we know about Earl Hamner, Jr. and his career before FC, I think those episodes were more in his wheelhouse as a producer/writer. I think all subsequent seasons should have been mapped out that way: self-contained episodes that still fit within a season-long arc or mystery. The more FC tried to be like DALLAS and DYNASTY (and later, "Miami Vice"), the further it got away from itself.

Don't worry, it'll happen. Even The Once and Future Donald can't live forever (as much as he and his cult followers would love to).

I'd have to agree. I hate to say it, @Errol, but I feel like your sources are playing you, which is so not cool with me.

Trump always has looked that way. Even way back in '85 or '86, when he did that cameo with Valerie Bertinelli in "Judith Krantz's I'll Take Manhattan," the man looked lost in his own building, lol.

Exactly! That's what I still love about her and Sam Hall's work on the show during the early and mid-'80's: even when the stories became a little more "out there" than they had been before, their writing managed to make it feel like the things that were happening were completely within the realm of possibilities. They never seem to lose the earthiness that made OLTL so special in the first place.

ASJ might not be Hispanic or Latino, but he ain't a WASP either.

No doubt, when Trump finally does breathe his last, Katy Tur and her ilk will be saying how serene he looks in his casket and that maybe - just maybe - he's finally realizing how serious the presidency is.

I agree. LOL!!

Which pisses me off to no end, lol. No offense to Queen Latifah, or to her fans, but speaking as one who grew up watching the original series, I'll always prefer Edward Woodward and his mix of steeliness and fatherly concern over her or Denzel. Last night, I read Edward Zwick's new memoir, "Hits, Flops and Other Illusions;" and apparently, execs at ABC were very upset when he and Marshall Herskovitz elected to end "thirtysomething" at the end of its' fourth season. (Up to that point, the show had been the most gratifying experience of Zwick and Herskovitz's careers; but after four years, they felt they had said everything they had wanted to say with those characters). In exchange for allowing them to end their show on their terms, Zwick and Herskovitz promised the network another show...which is how "My So-Called Life" came to be.

Translation: she actually sat down and read the script.

I wouldn't either, lol. By the time those scenes had aired, the wheels had long come off from Rauch's OLTL. But a part of me, at least, suspects THIS is the kind of drama that influenced Carlivati and Valentini to a great degree.

I feel like moments such as the one posted above with Julia and DuAnn represent the kind of OTT melodrama that Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati still hope to recreate, but just don't have the cleverness or skill to pull off.

I might be way off-base here, but I think Biden and his administration had no other choice BUT to act after SCOTUS had granted Trump blanket immunity for all illegal and unethical acts he had committed while he still was in the WH. I mean, what else COULD you do after the highest court in our land has basically said the president is no longer a president but a king? If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: this is all due to our having the audacity to elect a member of the Ooga Booga Tribe as our leader. White America just. Can't. Cope. Exactly.

But to do this to a BLACK man who has a long history with this show (not to mention an Emmy)? Tell me you're a racist [!@#$%^&*], Mr. Carlivati, without even opening your mouth.

What Ron Carlivati is doing to Abe is nothing short of emasculation.

I'm so sorry.

Claire Labine herself said that Michael Brockman had told her at the outset that the network probably would go with B&B.

For me, the natural place to reunite Gary and Val was during her "Verna Ellers" phase, when Gary travelled to Shula, Tennessee, and helped Val reclaim her lost identity. Primetime isn't like daytime. Audiences' patience is much, much shorter.