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My sister and I loved this show. As a (bi-racial)kid I always wondered why it became an all black fraternity.

Are these online? I'vehad no luck--but woul love to see the Thelma Houston one, in particular. Yeah her Don't Leave Me This Way is one of Disco (and 70s Motown)'s best all time tracks, and she still has a voie but I would hope they'd cover her first album Sunshower (I paid ridiculous money to get the Japan only reissue of it). It's a flawless album produced and written by Jimmy Webb who said he considered her his muse and the best voice he worked directly with (A year later he did a similar, butnot quite as good album for the new lineup of the Supremes that flopped as well)--it's one of those albums music connoiseurs of the era seem to allknowand love, but it snuck through the cracks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RETXQnBWR8c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOX8TlqImaU

2010 particularly sucked, IMHO, because people seemed really into 2009--and the whole Kish thing, even the silly gay marriage thing, and then suddenly--it felt like by Feb or whatever, all these characters were dropped, we had way too much focus on Mitch, the TeenJessica mess, etc, etc. Has AMC already cycles through their 2006-2011 SoapNet episodes once??

I admit, the more I watch of the 12 episodes uploaded from Sep-Oct 1994, the more I sorta remember why I did love this era of AMC. I can see it coming apart at the seams (Jane somewhat pushing her mom down the stairs and stalling a potentially great confrontation. There are still a lot of good stories being spun around at the time--and in a way I think with Broderick that was lost (and I suspect that was partly network mandated--because I do get the feeling McTavish's stories were getting darker and darker). A basic scene in a *real* looking courtroom like the one at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13kFmJGZeo 29:00 in would be unfounded on soaps even five years later.

I admit I loved those scenes too. Watching more of the series of Sept 1994 episodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVrcvR9yAQ) oe thing I do really like is how many stories were told at once, and the relationships between characters.

I grew up obsessed with Silver Spoons--so that's prob it.

Ha! And wow she has a resume of being on every possible (not great) TV show. I guess that's why i recognize her.

Does anyone know who plays Erica's friend, Elena? She looks so familiar...

I like how in Dimitri's dream on the plane of meeting Erica, the "dream filter" thing that makes it all wobbly makes both their heads look deformed like in a funhouse mirror for much of it--very romantic!

It really does. And thanks so much PC!! *kiss* I didn't expect any of you to actually bother to find it. I know how I'm gonna spend the next few hours... (And watching that clip, I would so hate to sit beside that woman. I hate talking on planes... "you don't talk much, do you"--I would just turn up my iPod).

Ugh I am SOOO bad at sorting through clips... You guys should just link me But I'll look--thanks! One thing about soap music--in the 70s and 80s they often just used music at the end and start of scenes--though for a while AMC (not sure about the other ones) in the 80s was using movie cues--like the Halloween theme when Erica is helping Jeremy escape prison, and in one of Agnes Nixon's Paley interview videos someone mentions how much she loves that they use the love theme from Superman for some scenes--to which Agnes looks downright confused.

I'll have to check it out...

Hrmm I hate to admit I actually like him more looking older and with a bit more weight on him. (Adrian, I mean)

Melrose is still available for syndication in N America though (it's rerun here in Canada)--I read on some forum (so this may not be true) that Knots isn't at the moment. I know that Shout Factory thought sales of the first two box sets was high enough that they wanted to lease the show from WB or Fox or whoever owns the DVD rights--since they are the ones who said sales weren't high enough to continue the release--but were turned away (much as they were with Peyton Place--Shout released two sets and said they were some of their better classic tv sellers, but the studio didn't think Shout sold enough copies so wouldn't release more--and yet annoyingly of course, they have no plans to release it themselves... Which would make me think they had nothing to lose by letting Shout--oh well). So it may be a while yet. I haven't been following the Dallas reboot but aren't there plans or rumours that this year some Knots vets will make appearances? Maybe that would raise interest--obviously Dallas on DVD sold decently enough to run through every season.

You can only find the first three seasons on torrent easily--just a warning (actually I'm just guessing about seasons one and two, but since they're on DVD I'm pretty sure they're out there). Trust me, I've looked... (I've thought about buying one of those sets people sell from SoapNet episodes but the sellers all seem shadier than usual and ask a lot--not like the great cheap set of all of Peyton's Place I found).

Thanks Khan! I really should look more into the history. I've seen about half of season 4 (and very little since--grrr), but I liked Marcus' contribution to that season (I assume it was hers). I've seen more, but have less interest in Dallas--but didn't they have major troubles when their longtime producer died too?

Must you always remind me of my beloved Donna Summer's death last year

Been sick in bed all day, and watching a bunch of the full Sep 1994 episodes posted back in the Fall. I remember this period well--I had been watching for about three years and it was prob just as I was starting to come off my first real peak with AMC and not loving it as much, though I still loved the characters (I continued watching though--and again got really obsessed during much of the Broderick period even if in hindsight I can see some of the faults Carl and others had with it). One thing is while I still love most of what I've re-watched of McTavish's 92-early 94 stuff, is by the fall, and still loved the charcters (I was 13 at the time--now I can see more fault in some like Maria who I loved back then), I can see why viewers were starting to fall and Behr was starting to get tired of McTavish. The story construction and pacing is still very strong, but the show (judging by watching 3 episodes in a row) was getting really quite dark (something that McTavish seems to do at the end of her runs--) and unrelentingly heavy--there's very little humour or "happy family scenes" during this period. (And I just watched the episode Carl loves to rant about with Maria's miscarriage flashback ). Still much better than a lot of the AMC we got in its last decade, but...

Soap music goes through stages. Rewatching some of Broderick's era (the Michael Delaney gay teacher story) the music, which didn't bug me then, is TOO pervasive and synthy--more so than in these earlier 90s clips--it's a bit like DAYS' awful music now. OK I love all these early 90s scenes being uploaded, but when when when will we get some of the Destiny on the Danube story

Did David Jacobs stay creatively involved throughout the series? He seemed more connected to it than to Dallas (partly I assume as he created it first). Also what years was Ann Marcus showrunner for (if the show ever had a showrunner--aside from Dynasty and the Pollocks turning it into a "daytime soap on speed" to quote Schemering in the second season, but I'm not sure how long they lasted--for some reason it's hard to find credited head writers back then).

I found some of these in a thrift store as a teen--I remember I was a bit embarassed to buy them (I was very self conscious at the time) as they were categorized as romance fiction. The ones I have are: 3 volumes of All My Children from Jove Publications the first two from 1980, the third from 1981. They cover 70s storylines and are all credited as Agnes Nixon's All My Children, a Novel by Rosemarie Santini. Vol 1 Tara and Philip Vol 2 Erica Vol 3 The Lovers (Tara Chuck Erica Phil) On the backs they call them the Saga that has Thrilled Millions and each book says it covers a few years, 1- 70-72, 2- 72-74, 3- 74-76. The OLTL one is from the Soaps and Serials Romance label of Pioneer Press and was written by romance writer Gwendolyn Arden (who only has a tiny credit inside). It says it's based on scripts, but doesn't give any name credits to OLTL writers. My edition says it's 2 books in 1, though it's only 350 pages or so and the whole thing is called Moonlight Obsession. I haven't read this one yet (the writing isn't brilliant in these), but the back says it's about Karen, Larry and Meredith, and claims that future books will be coming, but I don't think any other OLTL ones did. It's from 1987 and has a fun ad in the back to buy a full color map of Pine Valley, Llanview or Port Charles (ordered from ABC themselves)--I would love to have these, there's a tiny pic of the Llanview one. The book claims that either out already or coming soon are books based on Young and Restless, Guiding Light, As The World Turns, Another World, Days of Our Lives, Knots Landing and Dallas--and the big advertising claim is "find out what happened on your osaps before you started watching, from the very beginning". I admit, pre internet I would have loved these more, when it was much harder to find out about backstory (I had a thick magazine put out by SOW I think from 94 that had lengthy stories for all the soaps).

You can also find a low quality torrent pretty easily of Season 3 from SoapNet (that's how I watched it). I really wish they'd start doing DVDs again--even DVD on Demand type things... (not sure how far they got with Falcon Crest in that format, but...)

And has done some Broadway. I grew to like him--especially with Dixie but he seemed so miscast after Matt Borlenghi (who was Brian number 2 wasn't he? There was one briefly before?) Matt has strangely been quiet on FB about trying to get back on the show--a couple years back he seemed to post about it every day. And I do remember the Whole New World thing now, ugh (funny, that wasbefore Disney bought ABC).

I think I totally blacked that out. (it's true I do remember a few scenes with Brian where they came close to having sex but decided to stop).

Wait, which Charlie? I started watching just as the second last Charlie had left--and I know she had a thing for a bit with the last Charlie (Lawford?) and the detective place, but wasn't she already humping away with Alec by then (and I thought her and Brian had sex). Somehow I missed this detail... lol