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It would have been wise to hire some soap person to at least co-HW or co-EP, I mean even the worst of the the ex-soap people could help with basic things like that--so far every setting looks basically the same... It would have been wise to hire some soap person to at least co-HW or co-EP, I mean even the worst of the the ex-soap people could help with basic things like that--so far every setting looks basically the same...

Ha, well that's fair enough. Though I admit if it were daily I'd prob drop it after a while.

People continue to fill midnight theatre showings of Plan 9 From Outer Space too

I feel the same way--I mean obviously it's ridiculous I continue to watch--but I can't stop. Eric, I've been meaning to ask--WTF is your signature GIF.

LOL

I wish YOU were writing this show

See that subtext makes complete sense to me, and works more or less. But I honestly didn't read that into it--the acting is too shallow (particularly Wyatt--that tone of voice he uses for nearly all his lines, oy) and the writing is as well. WIth a show like this (or any show) you really shouldn't have to work that hard as a viewer lol.

I thought he was married when they had the affair--he said something about how his wife refused to let him see his son. How massive is their church that Hannah NEVER heard that his wife died? She never saw that his wife stopped going to church? Agreed about the dinner. It looked like she even got all prettied up, lit candles, etc, etc... I know these actors are happyto have a job, and many of them have zero experience it seems--but I'd love to hear what the more established actors think of the writing.... Or how to play it.

Agreed, it's the writing's fault. Considering how slow this show moves, the sudden jumps in temperament are bizarre--like Celine SUDDENLY hating on Hannah. If we had seen her slowly get more jealous, etc, it would make sense. I think Hannah is one of those Perry women who paid for her sins by becoming devout.

When Jeffrey's mom was asking Wyatt's mom if the kids ever said anything about Jeffrey she did say that they grew up close together, or something.

Ha I meant the end of the scene But how long back did he almost blackmail him? What's changed since then? Wyatt's attitude hasn't from what I've seen--except he's gotten even whinier--he was better walking around naked and setting people up--now he just whines about wanting to watch porn and look up escorts.

So far, anyway, I think he does think he's doing a "good" and earnest gay storyline. But there's nothing groundbreaking here (I can't really comment on this, but one tv and movie blog about race said that there's also the cliche of the gay black son being preppy and rich.) It's also all played weird--Jeffrey's mom acts like she's going to have her son killed of he sleeps with a man, but Kathryn and Hannah just laugh about how hysterical it is she doesn't know with comedy music in the background. I agree that they seem to be the most couple-ish of anyone on the show--I suspect Perry would deny that, though.

Loving? Wyatt said he didn't liek people laughing at his friends, Jeffrey hears for the first time ever that they're friends, then he makes a comment about Wyatt caring and Wyatt says he doesn't. The end.

Yes! I think I mentioned that back in ep 1 but it really gives the show a weird feeling. I guess it's a directing trait--instead of typical soap closeups where you usually see a bit of who they are talking to, etc--but in this way they cut back and forth with the characters often looking directly at the camera and I find it creepy or something. The gaps between lines do make me think of early sound film. Though with the constant, never ending tinkling music--if they just added intertitles instead of the gaps I suppose it would be silent film. ANd that ending! Wyatt (why is he even on the show when he's not shirtless?) sorta apologizes to Jeffrey,but then takes it back, but then apologizes,and then while Jeffrey is still there goes to his computer to look at porn or escorts or something--because he seems obsessed with computer escort sites now and no longer drugs or booze--and Jeffrey finally just sorta slinks away--until they find Candy's dead-eye escort advertisement (she looks like a sex doll in bad lingerie. Some of the gender stuff confounds me to (no big shock, it is Perry.) Like in the previous episode, that church woman that Hannah tricks to set up with her son. She comes to the door saying that Hannah asked her to make her a lunch (weird friendship but ok...) Apparently she made roast beef, cobbler, you know wholesome food all for lunch and specifically for this lunch--not dinner leftovers. But she can't eat it herself because she is too busy working. ANd the food was used as a trap to lure her son in? Ugh.

I was wondering if he was used to directing his melodramas on stage where audience reacts and pauses in dialogue *can* work better than on TV. (SPeaking of, I admit I'm curious how closely this is based on his play of the same title.)

*shakes head* Remind me never to have a conversation with you

Ha I just watched this episode--and spot on. Wyatt is utterly completely unlikeable (and I usually feel sympathetic to the jerky troubled characters). Celine still in full on bitch mode (why did she get Hannah the job anyway?) And then just more of Tyler Perry's dialogue. The actual dialogue is bad enough but he doesn't seem to realize how to edit. Even the worse soap writers don't draw out everything with a question or comment. "What do you think of me?" "What do you mean? "What I said--what do you think of me?" "In what way?" "In any way" "Hrmmm." "Well?" (that's a direct quote. I mean c'mon maybe the episodes would be too short but you could cut half of that and have the exact same meaning. The poor actors must have to take sedatives on the set to maintain their pace.)

Interesting piece, I wonder if it was written shortly after Y&R premiered. I'd neverheard of the actors all sitting and watching their show together at the studio.

Oprah was the 20th not 25th...

Exactly. I think if they had shown her friendship with her brother as more loving--not so simplistic, but rather that they both are dealing with living under the oppression of her mother's issues in separate ways, it could be really interesting.

I wish he had gotten a former soap writer to at least co-write.

Aww I kinda liked on Heartbeat eons back.

Yeah, sorry I was gonna address that--two friends of my mom had breast cancer, one passed away from it. It happens but, from what I know only in quite late stages or after a mastectomy.

Oh and anyone else expect an ending similar to the CBN's Another Life "God's Light cures cancer?"

Wow, the Perry tropes are in full force. Candace with her demon child since being in the womb, Hannah trying to explain to her son about how evil she is, but Benny is so dumb, but caring (which makes him a "strong black man") he can't actually tell Hannah how she played some part in her daughter's wickedness (which probably will explained, and I shudder to think how.) And it goes...