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I think he had JY do his hair for him... LOVED the It's not just a storyline, it's a legacy tag line too.

Yes it seems brand new to YT. Thanks so much!!

I think the show was in great shape--I guess probably after Nixon's year long stint--but I don't believe ratings had any climb until the Murders, which worked as designed.

I honestly can't remember too well. During the Tad the Cad marathon they have an episode from '97 with Marian Tad and Liza which implies there was--but at the time it first aired I was more invested in other stories, and obviously that episode made it seem like he was with both again. I think the drunk thing makes more sense for all of the characters by that time. AH OK, to quote Celine, it's all coming back to me now....

I forgot all about the call girl aspect and the DA. Wasn't he Madison's husband? Did Randi kill him and Jesse helped her hide the body. Jeez it's sad how many stories I'm starting to forget.... ANd don't forget there was a round 2 around '97...

Yeah I wonder if they were already trying some City type things (though of course it was still traditionally filmed). I do remember Frankie--kinda, I guess he was one of that first wave of characters who moved out (like Bernard and Azure C the transexual or whatever...) As much as I love Morgan Fairchild, I think The City really came to life when Tracy moved in (not just cuz of her, everything just started to mesh)--but I found the switch strange too--of course a number of soap actors have moved back and forth between being producers or especially writers, but usually once they move behind the scenes, they only return for cameos (Francesca James, Gillian Spencer, Ellen Wheeler, Pam Long, Megan McTavish... I'm sure some would hope some of these people would have returned to acting instead of producing or writing...)

Ha Frankie doing some dance modelling shot to Rupaul! Thanks for posting that. Did Frankie make the move to The City or was he already in film school or whatever--I can't remember. I do think by the time Jacob was on they already knew they would be rebooting and he'd be going with Angie to the new show--she was underused on Loving but I did like how her and Jacob kinda were the anchoring couple on The City. A lot of characters added in 1995 were obviously set up to be City characters. Forgot that Jane Elliot was a producer on Loving...

I agree, I just think it was redundent. Wasn't she an actress? And.... I forget (of course she was hinted to have come back and killed Sidney in the finale). I loed the City pretty much a few months AFTER that story on, so I guess it gave it some momentum story wise, but...

Yeah it was a really bad idea to basically open City (after a few months anyway--I think it was 6) with a NEW serial killer story that was set up and advertised so similarly to the Loving murders. I am positive someone thought ratings weren't climbing fast enough and mandated it--but it was way way too soon. And regardless--as has been pointed out, most of the potential victims were characters people barely even had grown to know yet, so the huge threat of the Loving Murders didn't exist.

I started watching under Addie W's run, but she never seemed to be given a chance. Though the show went through so many changes (as it always did) who knows. I did like a lot of Taggert/Guza's run, and I largely loved Nixon's (kinda strange and gothic) return, when the original Curtis returned as Dante's "pet"

Yeah, Jackson arrived to whisk Sydney away for her exit (well until we saw her feet in the finale )

My sister and I loved this show. As a (bi-racial)kid I always wondered why it became an all black fraternity.

Are these online? I'vehad no luck--but woul love to see the Thelma Houston one, in particular. Yeah her Don't Leave Me This Way is one of Disco (and 70s Motown)'s best all time tracks, and she still has a voie but I would hope they'd cover her first album Sunshower (I paid ridiculous money to get the Japan only reissue of it). It's a flawless album produced and written by Jimmy Webb who said he considered her his muse and the best voice he worked directly with (A year later he did a similar, butnot quite as good album for the new lineup of the Supremes that flopped as well)--it's one of those albums music connoiseurs of the era seem to allknowand love, but it snuck through the cracks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RETXQnBWR8c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOX8TlqImaU

2010 particularly sucked, IMHO, because people seemed really into 2009--and the whole Kish thing, even the silly gay marriage thing, and then suddenly--it felt like by Feb or whatever, all these characters were dropped, we had way too much focus on Mitch, the TeenJessica mess, etc, etc. Has AMC already cycles through their 2006-2011 SoapNet episodes once??

I admit, the more I watch of the 12 episodes uploaded from Sep-Oct 1994, the more I sorta remember why I did love this era of AMC. I can see it coming apart at the seams (Jane somewhat pushing her mom down the stairs and stalling a potentially great confrontation. There are still a lot of good stories being spun around at the time--and in a way I think with Broderick that was lost (and I suspect that was partly network mandated--because I do get the feeling McTavish's stories were getting darker and darker). A basic scene in a *real* looking courtroom like the one at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13kFmJGZeo 29:00 in would be unfounded on soaps even five years later.

I admit I loved those scenes too. Watching more of the series of Sept 1994 episodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVrcvR9yAQ) oe thing I do really like is how many stories were told at once, and the relationships between characters.

I grew up obsessed with Silver Spoons--so that's prob it.

Ha! And wow she has a resume of being on every possible (not great) TV show. I guess that's why i recognize her.

Does anyone know who plays Erica's friend, Elena? She looks so familiar...

I like how in Dimitri's dream on the plane of meeting Erica, the "dream filter" thing that makes it all wobbly makes both their heads look deformed like in a funhouse mirror for much of it--very romantic!

It really does. And thanks so much PC!! *kiss* I didn't expect any of you to actually bother to find it. I know how I'm gonna spend the next few hours... (And watching that clip, I would so hate to sit beside that woman. I hate talking on planes... "you don't talk much, do you"--I would just turn up my iPod).

Ugh I am SOOO bad at sorting through clips... You guys should just link me But I'll look--thanks! One thing about soap music--in the 70s and 80s they often just used music at the end and start of scenes--though for a while AMC (not sure about the other ones) in the 80s was using movie cues--like the Halloween theme when Erica is helping Jeremy escape prison, and in one of Agnes Nixon's Paley interview videos someone mentions how much she loves that they use the love theme from Superman for some scenes--to which Agnes looks downright confused.

I'll have to check it out...

Hrmm I hate to admit I actually like him more looking older and with a bit more weight on him. (Adrian, I mean)

Melrose is still available for syndication in N America though (it's rerun here in Canada)--I read on some forum (so this may not be true) that Knots isn't at the moment. I know that Shout Factory thought sales of the first two box sets was high enough that they wanted to lease the show from WB or Fox or whoever owns the DVD rights--since they are the ones who said sales weren't high enough to continue the release--but were turned away (much as they were with Peyton Place--Shout released two sets and said they were some of their better classic tv sellers, but the studio didn't think Shout sold enough copies so wouldn't release more--and yet annoyingly of course, they have no plans to release it themselves... Which would make me think they had nothing to lose by letting Shout--oh well). So it may be a while yet. I haven't been following the Dallas reboot but aren't there plans or rumours that this year some Knots vets will make appearances? Maybe that would raise interest--obviously Dallas on DVD sold decently enough to run through every season.