Stevel

It always felt like the Pat Morrow Show.

I head a schoolmate named Michael Shea. No one liked him.not sure why.

I had seen the edited version on TV before reading the novel. That mobile with the obvious finger prints... Then one summer, planting my own trees, with no TV I read VOTD, Helter Skelter, and Peyton Place. 1975 I think.. Much more entertaining than the movie.

I could have accepted, to some degree, every Alice recast except for Wesley Ann Pafenning. Reminds me of a Golden Girls episode with Mr PaFeiffer talking about the neighbor's PaFuneral. She was just bad. With an annoying voice. I believe she was a Rauch honey. I even liked Vana Tribbey - more than "STEVEN!" Linda Borgeson who did HOOD orange juice commercials in the Northeast. It gave me a new appreciation of Susan Harney. She worked well as a member of the Matthews family. But there was only one real Alice.

I can't remember the duration of her tenure but she was a good fit with the group of friends that included Felicia, Cass and whoever he was with, and Wally. Maybe the one thing AW did well thenwas a ragtag group of friends.

Agree Tishy. Olive as the town b%$÷@ had so many possibilities. Especially living in that crazy house John Randolph built for her. And poor John didn't need to die. Kill Dan Shearer instead. I liked how Liz was softened but was still a force of meddlesome family/friends presence. There was a much later scene when Mac calls her out about her gossiping and poor old lonely Liz explains how she has no one but her relatives and her job. Of course Mac, everyone's father figure, gives her a pat on the head.

OLIVE! I was in my teens watching the John/Olive relationship. We'd smoke some "pot" and watch AW. The denouement of that relationship came as no surprise, with Olive, a great B word character, wiping her face of John Randolph's slobbery kisses. Pat had been so genteel and introspective in in comparison. When we saw poor John, accidentally, shoot Evan Webster, and listened to Olive freak out over the ending credits we turned to stone. I was all set to laugh at John saying OLIVE! like Popeye. But the whole thing was scary and creepy, and the background music was like nothing I had ever heard.

Thank you for informing me, and perhaps the rest of us, of the Chevron doctrine. I looked it up. The roots are deep. I would have thought losing Roe would have had more impact. Or we aren't being informed of the impact. I have American citizenship but also Canadian and I live in Quebec. We have had our own share of political turmoil that has occupied my attention over the years, decades. Quiet now. Please feel free to correct and inform me. You know your stuff. Thanks

Love your take Vetsoapfan. Lisa was the first enduring one I remember. As a youngster I remember her antics driving adult conversation for hours after her appearances. The Edge of Night was another show that initiated conversation and I watched more of it once I started school. If I ran I could make it home in time. Its bad girls never lasted long in those days.

I appreciate your response and your questions. Mostly I am afraid that younger generations are unwilling to fight for democracy the way we did. It's unfair on my part but as a senior citizen with physical limitations I can't do it anymore. Neither can my contemporaries. I wish I was as optimistic about the midterms as you are. I will try to be. I feel encouraged by the responses on this thread. The wllingness to fight it. ... and by Kimmel's return Moreso by Sinclair backing down, the fight works.

So cool. I once met Jean Leclerc. He was more interested in my late partner, also an actor then doing video games, than my gushing over his soap career.

I worry about a coup d'état. I worry the midterms will be compromised. I hope I am wrong. But what do we do if they are?

Supercouple, endgame,etc. All those terms deserve the derision they receive. But Alice and Steve were the first true supercouple to me before the term existed. Of course they couldn't have been without horrid Rachel as the obstacle. And she was truly horrid. She wasn't a murderous psychopath or an evil billionare genius. Just a damaged, sad person with issues and misplaced priorities, who acted out.

She was no Nicholas

Thanks Tishy. The music I remember sounded like a more violent version of the little sound on the game show Musical Chairs, when losing characters were devoured by the wall.

I would give Jacquie Courteney the award for most wasted return, given her earlier importance. She was arguably the star during her initial run. At least the emotional center. Alice Barrett was another but her character had been killed off.

Sorry Xanthe, yes Julie Phillips. She wasn't given much of a chance. And the original girl was kind of cute and pathetic "mooning over Joey" as Rose described her.

No offense taken Xanthe. And I shouldn't have said Mary Page Keller was *the best* But she was my favorite. And it didn't come easy. A dark haired Sally? What the hell? I should also revise my opinion a bit. I loved Jennifer Runyon, the dumb blonde bimbo who was decidedly NOT a dumb bimbo. She my favorite Sally up to then and I would have been more than happy to have her continue the role in perpetuity. There was an earlier Sally another person mentioned. Sorry I can't remember. She was a bit of a stoner type and had potential. She became friendly with Blaine. I remember wishing she had lasted longer, stoner type that I was With Mary Page Keller, the change in appearance was jarring but she pulled it off so well and the chemistry with her real life future husband was so natural. Then AW made one of the biggest mistakes ever with their choice of Taylor Miller, who I adored on AMC. Wrong for the part and way too old. Do any of you remember the old Compuserve AW boards? There was a great discussion about which actress would have been a better recast Sally.

I've been all over the place with soaps, seen bits and pieces of most of them since being a pre-schooler in the 1960s. For One Life, if I had to choose it would be the late 1970s when I was growing tired of AW. The Judith Light/Gerald Anthony era. I kept up though. Loved the Gottleib era as well, but that remote was also busy on other shows. I became a more faithful viewer post 2000. With many complaints. Thank you for asking

Mary Page Keller was the best Sally ever.

Was this before or after Bilitis did her stint on AW?

Does anyone here remember the tornado that caused Kim to lose her memory? I have a vague and probably innacurate recollection of weird organ/ synthesiser music and an image of Kim being twisted and turned via the technology of the time. I'm probably wrong Later I remember Patty McCormick, Little Miss Bad Seed, as a temporary recast Kim, regaining her memory after being injured from the tornado, and quietly telling John Dixon to get lost.

I hadn't realized Maeve got an Emmy nom for it. Good. You're right though. Fifteen years earlier on any soap an incident like that could have driven story between them for years. They all played it well. It felt like a big deal. POOF! It was forgotten.

Burlington, VT – WVNY-TV that's my area. Thanks

Vanessa got f%$# when they made her a pill addict who caused Reva's miscarriage. It was great TV but Vanessa's character was the real victim AFAIC.