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I'm curious as to what metrics will be used to determine if BTG is a success. We are obviously in a new era of television, one in which no soap opera has ever had to premiere and find an audience. How will BTG be measured? How much will live figures matter? Will streams matter?

Sorry if this has been posted or asked already, but do we know anything as far as availability to streaming platforms and release time/schedules. From the commercials, I know that BTG will be made available to stream on Paramount+. Will new episodes be available to stream the day of or next day? Since this is the first time a soap opera is available to stream from the very beginning, will they try to promote/push for streaming viewership over live viewers. Similarly, will they try to innovate in some ways? I think weekly/monthly summary episodes with the highlights would be great for new viewers trying to get into watching that may not want to start from the very beginning or feel like they don't have the time to always watch all 5 episodes each week.

Hmmm...why have that gap between the final episode of The Talk and the prmeire of BTG. Not that the shows cater to the exact same audience, but you're going to lose people who typically tune in at that time slot to stop and possible not give BTG a shot. JMO

I know originally BTG was slated for a January 2025 premiere, but it seems like that may not be the case based on the title of the thread. What do we know so far? Also, when do you think they'll start promoting. It's obvious most of us soap fans are in the know, but I don't think much of the general public has even heard rumblings that there may be a new soap coming.

Yes, I was referring to just the title. For me personally, I think The Gates worked better, but again, opinions... I'm super excited for this project otherwise.

I might be in the minority, but I'm not loving Beyond the Gates. Seems a bit on the nose, and it's giving Tyler Perry's The Haves and Have Nots energy. The classic rich vs working class family. Echoing what's already been said, but Tamera Tunie is such a great inclusion to the cast and I mentioned her as someone I would love to see on this project when this was first announced. As for BET/MTV, not sure if a daily evening airing would work, but maybe they could air an omnibus like the British soaps on weekends and air the 5 episodes back to back. Although with streaming, this may not be necessary altogether.

Ha! I love this 😀

I personally prefer an hour long soap. The runtime of soaps are condensed as it is, so to truly develop story and rich dialogue, I think an hour works best. However considering the state of network TV, soaps, and budgets, I think 30 minutes would be favorable. If they're going to do this, I want it done right and I don't want to see cheap-looking sets that are empty with just the main scene actors. Maybe a week long premeire of hour long epsidoes to set the stage before reverting to 30 minute episodes would be nice...but honestly, I'm just excited to see what comes out of this.

I know that soaps generally focus around families, but I think having a core friend group or colleagues in some sort of business/profession can open up storylines and steer things away from the incestuous.

Definitely don't see a reboot of any of the daytime soaps as a possibility...at least not in the standard soap opera format. Maybe a prime time version ala Pine Valley could happen, although that unfortunately never took off. Yet, even that is pushing it. As we further remove ourselves from their cancelations, we are losing any steam these soaps had. We could be nice is some "crossovers" or even the return of some soap greats to participate in this new soap in some way. There are a few names I would love to see acting again even for a short arc.

Oh hey, Alexis and Dominque, love the catfight but this is the Dallas thread ladies...

If you asked me back when Passions, GL, and ATWT were canceled, shortly followed by the end of AMC and OLTL, whether soaps would still be on the air in 2024, I would have told you no. I didn't see any of the soaps surviving another decade. To hear that there is a tradional format soap being put forth in 2024 is amazing news for us soap fans albeit very shocking and kind of scary.

I know it's early, but where would this be filmed? As much as I would love a NYC soap, I think financially west coast or Atlanta would make the most sense. Back when GL and ATWT were canceled, I mentioned scaling down to a half hour and relocating both soaps to Atlanta which was beginning to boom in film and TV production at the time and giving companies great incentives would save both soaps a lot of money. May have been a challenge to convince casts to move out there though.

Did CBS aquire that 10am timeslot again for the Let's Make a Deal reboot or is LMAD just in GL's timeslot according to market. I ask because GL was on at 10am in NYC and that's the timeslot LMAD took over. Would make it sense to be paired back to back with TPIR.

So is Falcon Crest being pulled or just added to Prime? I see it as leaving soon on my end, but there no similar designation for Dallas. I would like to rewatch FC from the beginning, but not if I will lose access to it soon.

I agree and like @Khanhan think 94 is still decent. @Gray Bunny Beth's last week also scored a 5.7, although that was only good enough to get GL a 6th place finish instead of Top 5 a few weeks earlier. So I guess, Beth's claim that GL was scoring a 5.7 when she left wasn't wrong.

Pretty sure Beth's last airdate is at the end of the month. From what I gathered on YouTube, this is the week Bridget crashes Dylan and Julie's wedding.

I think this is the last time GL gets a top 5 finish in the 90s until the clone storyline in 1998.

I'm not sure when Jean left. But by the time she arrived LOL was already a sinking ship, it had been for most of the decade. It makes sense. I'm sure the network was interested in replacing it by then either way. GH and ABC were heating up and LOL was showing its age and definitely felt outdated.

Seems like poor foresight to place Love of Life at 4pm instead of 3:30. The 3:30pm slot is doing well at maintaining GL's audience - perhaps viewers were sticking around til 4pm and letting that hour block conclude before switching off or onto something else. Wonder if the network just didn't have much faith in LOL and keeping a rerun that could pull in numbers was just a wiser move than jeopardizing the slot in the case LOL still manages to underperform.

I wonder if this "more grounded" feel also had to do with the massive ratings erosion that occurred in season 7 and the decline that would continue til the end.

Thank you. Didn't realize the turnover was so quick. When did these longer tape to air periods become more of the norm, especially Days which seems to have one of the longest.

Am I correct to assume that GL was recording episodes one week before they aired back in 1980? Was this common practice or am I misunderstanding?

I believe she underwent heart surgery and missed out on the earlier episodes and is replaced next season. I remember when I, similar to you, decided to watch all the eoisode from the very beginning not too long ago and noticed she was absent and thought that this would be the season Geddes gets replaced by Donna Reed but it's not.

Matt Bomer briefly talks about his run on GL after receiving The Hollywood Reporter's Trailblazers Award. Complete Article: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/matt-bomer-interview-ryan-murphy-bradley-cooper-career-scad-tvfest-1235819552/ In lighter moments, Bomer reflected on humbling milestones he experienced as an aspiring actor, from his first role as a background artist at age 12 in the 1992 Chuck Norris movie Sidekicks (“If that’s not an origin story, then what is?” he wondered, laughing) to a three-year run as a regular on both All My Children and Guiding Light in New York in the early 2000s. His appraisal of those gigs was tinged with equal parts appreciation (“It felt like going to grad school”) and unbridled amusement. “My Guiding Light character was a trust-fund baby who bet his fraternity brothers he’d be the first to deflower the town virgin … then he lost his trust fund and turned to the only life that someone can when they lose their trust fund: sex work. Then he went crazy and killed five people,” Bomer said, laughing along with the crowd inside the newly minted SCADShow theater. “Some days I’d have 30 pages of dialogue, ya’ll!”