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- One Life to Live Tribute Thread
- GH: Classic Thread
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Not sure if this was posted already But this YouTube channel has a treasure trove of episodes including a OLTL from 1975 with Victor Lord alive slayed by Shepard Strudwick. Some of the previous '70s episodes of One Life to Live that were posted a few years back featured a distinct lack of Vicki, But she's in some of these! I still hold out hope that clips of Victor Lord's death storyline will surface.
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ALL: What are your lost soap media "holy grails" for 2025?
It's like we made this thread and then this channel just answered so many of those requests.... I'm especially excited for pre 1978 OLTL! I'm finally seeing footage of Victor Lord's last years alive, including Shepherd Strudwick in the role!!! https://youtube.com/@mitch6225?feature=shared OLTL 1975: https://youtu.be/ThMBxsLvXLY?si=KKy-JVyjVHdBsOaw
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GH: January 2025 Discussion Thread
Who was Jason to tell Sasha about a father's right to know about paternity 🤣 if this isn't irony. Years ago, before I was exposed to any classic soaps, I used to wonder what was happening on shows like General Hospital 30 years ago. Low and behold it's the same characters doing the same things. Sonny Jason and Carly are all caught up in the same situations in 2024 that they were in 2004. Just like Viki was dealing with DID IN 2008 and 1968, Katherine was moaning about Phillip in 2008 and 1978, and Ridge Taylor and Brooke are still in the same love triangle in 2025 that they were in 1995. It's amazing (and bad) how long these soaps all drag the same stories over decades.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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ALL: Couple vs SUPER Couple?
But, marriages on the Young and the Restless and the Bold and the Beautiful did not last long. B&B brakes couples up too fast for anyone to care. On Y&R for example Victor and Nikki have been a super couple for nearly 45 years but they've only actually been married for less than 20. Victor started cheating on Nikki just one year into the marriage. And for characters like Ashley, she got married so frequently most of her pairings I don't care about outside of Victor and maybe Brad. I think ABC, specifically General Hospital is the best at super couples because they're given years to build momentum on screen.
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GH: January 2025 Discussion Thread
I agree with the posters who said Frank needs to go. It's been 13 years now! But others have said he brings the show in under budget so there's little incentive to get rid of him. This was a telling line... Carly said the most attractive thing about Sonny was that he could get her custody of Michael, so she ignored the dangers that he posed. Some self-recognition! It's crazy how the story lines of 1996-1997: Jason's post crash personality, Jason going to work for Sonny, and Michael's paternity, still directly affect so much plot today.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
Same. The desk clearing scene looked over the top. The cinematography on this show looks quite different than other daytime soaps. It reminds me of the Tyler Perry soaps on OWN. Great quote. Reports have shown that white/mainstream audiences do not watch majority black productions because they don't empathize our identify with the characters. The irony is, black people see themselves in the characters when watching predominantly white shows all the time. I love CBS Sunday Morning. Even when they use the show promote CBS books and productions it's still an informative segment. This was a much needed attention boost. Same. There's just too much scripted content out there right now. I love watching Only Murderers in the Building because it's 30 minutes so I can get through the season quickly. The 30-minute format would have been better. I suppose it has to do with the amount of advertising they're trying to sell.
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GH: January 2025 Discussion Thread
For a non-sweeps month, this is been a very active time on GH. What's in store for February! Exactly. Where does Wilh*e You get off trying to be Michael's medical proxy. Similar to the discussion we had in the Leslie Charleston tribute thread, I found the writing for the Quartermaines went from comedy drama in the '80s to more serious in the '90s. Particularly with Alan and Monica, in the '80s it was like War of the Roses but in the '90s it was more of a complex dramatic exploration of a dysfunctional marriage. Yes the Quartermaines were a loving family that had moments of funniness but there was a lot of toxicity and drama as you mentioned. Still, everything Drew said to Carly in the chapel was correct. Michael's entire chaotic life is because of Carly, and the desire to shut AJ out of his life was just for Carly's sake, not for what was mess for Michael. Getting shot, raped, and dodging bullets was a heck of a lot worse than the scheming machinations of the Quartermaines.
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GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
I never thought of Monica as serial cheater because of how she was presented. Dr. Monica was always modestly dressed looking like a conservative, middle aged wife, mother, and grand mother. Learning about Monica's past was like learning about Kim's messy history with Bob that led to Sabrina on ATWT. You wouldn't expect THAT from THAT character.
- GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
- GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
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GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
I don't get it. Why so much contempt from one of the best families in daytime? The Q characters had range. Drama, comedy and topical issues. Not to mention their stories having a family mixed with doctors and businessmen opens the possibilities for a range of soap stories. Overall Leslie was great as Monica. Growing up on 2000s GH I assumed she was just a regular soap matriarch...just one of several fading characters like Bobbie & Tony that used to have alot to do. I had no idea she was this gritty female lead that had several affairs and did so much great material like the cancer story.
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GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
I can agree that the love and the comedy always remained. Quartermaine stories were never HBO level dark. But I definitely felt like their dysfunction was presented more serious and emotionally layered in the 90s than the 80s. I would also agree the Jason & Carly's logic for keeping Michael away from the Quartermaines was illogical. Jason and Sonny legit kill people and are always dodging bullets and bombs. The most the Quartermaines would do is lie and backstab. (Ignoring the time Alan tried to kill Monica and Rick, lol). Thats why I'm glad Drew (of all people) recently told Carly her decisions back then were self serving.
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GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
The AJ paternity triangle IMO was Alan & Monica's best story. They were at their most vicious and ruthless. What I find interesting about the Qs is that their machinations were comic relief in the '70s and '80s. No matter how vicious Monica and Alan were to each other, especially during the AJ birth story, there was always comedy drama. When the '90s rolled around, under Riche, their drama took a serious tone. Viewers were given a complex psychological examination toxic relationship that headed a dysfunctional family. The scenes surrounding AJ's drinking, Monica's cancer, Jason's personality change and their pairs various affairs were serious in tone. No wonder Emily was hesitant to get adopted by them, she witnessed so much trauma. Boy who didn't read Sonny the riot act. Were everyday people willing to talk to Tony Soprano or Michael Corleone like this?
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ALL: Popular Actors playing Unpopular Characters
Y&R: Maura West as Diane Jenkins. I actually didn't mind her as Diane, she was just a lesser of the three. Fans really didn't seem to like her in that role compared to GH's Ava or ATWT's Carly. SB: I wish Michael Park would make a guest appearance on GH to see Jack and Carly together again one more time. GH: Roger Howard as Austin & Franco. I can understand why writers thought it make sense on paper to have ex Todd Manning play a reformed Franco. It did not work out. Franco did too much to be reformed. GH: Michelle Stafford & Cynthia Watros as Nina. Both women were popular in their roles on their respective soaps (Michelle was popular when she could act) But Nina is just unlikable.
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ALL: Couple vs SUPER Couple?
There were a few that came after Sonny & Brenda. I would argue, the OG Lucky & Liz, Robin & Patrick, Jason & Sam, and most prominently Sonny & Carly were all super couples. I would not consider Jason and Elizabeth a super couple. They were broken up most of the time. Maybe I need to go back and watch. Its crazy that the entire show of was centered around the coupling of Sonny and Carly from about 2000-2013 which speaks to their power (and the writers obsession). Jason and Sam were the B super couple. In my opinion, a super couple's stories are deliberately centered on their romance, they get a significant amount of media, fan, and writer attention. For example Luke & Laura were a super couple because a large part of their stories were centered around their relationship, and they receive significant media attention and popularity. Luke and Tracy were not a super couple because they're two characters with individual stories that happen to be paired together. The relationship is not the focal point of their stories. Kevin and Laura on GH are another example.
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ALL: Couple vs SUPER Couple?
What elevates a soap couple to SUPER status? What attributes do they have that differentiates them from just a regular soap couple? For example Why are Victor and Nikki a super couple but not Victor & Ashley? Why are ATWT's? Jack & Carly or Tom & Margot considered super couples but not Bob & Kim? Likewise, are there any underrated couples you think should have received the super couple designation?
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GH: Classic Thread
With the news of Leslie Charleston's passing it has me reflecting on Alan and Monica Quartermaine's marriage. Next to Tom and Margo they are one of the few examples of a non-elderly couple (elderly being Chris & Nancy on ATWT) that withstood years of trials and tribulations without divorcing that often. When we talk about great couples in the history of GH, Alan and Monica don't often get brought up. They are just lumped in with the Quartermaines. But this couple should stand on their own. We got a complex psychological presentation a dysfunctional marriage. Their chemistry was comparable to that of sitcom couples like The King of Queens. 1997 anniversary recap of their affairs A 1993 recap of their fights features the rare scene of Alan raping Monica out of anger in the 80s at 5:29.
- GH: RIP Leslie Charleson
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GH: January 2025 Discussion Thread
Interesting points. I think there's growing support for Joss now because Willow's actions were worse, but in the months following the Dex affair, I recall mass backlash against Josslyn. I'm surprised to see the downplaying of Joss's actions these days. *Note this is not an attack on your perfectly valid opinion, just an observation on changing support for Joss.
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ARTICLE: Kin Shriner Has “No Plans” To Return to ‘General Hospital’
He'll be back...eventually.