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Fox News just said they're projecting Hillary at 300+ and Trump at under 200 EVs.
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HBO: Game of Thrones
Shooting pix leak from Season 7, with some decent SPOILAGE for a few key meetings and reunions. (Two separate links) Nothing too dire, as I don't traffic in major spoilers for GOT and don't wish to know. The biggest one, though, is here. Also: Two family members share a makeup trailer on the same location, but whether they reunite onscreen soon is unknown.
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The Politics Thread
Speaks for itself.
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I think that strain was out there as early as '08-09. Not just because of the Hillary or Bust crew, which did briefly exist, but more importantly in the online left which had been so energized during the Bush years. When Obama came out of relative nowhere - as, it must be said, a younger black man - a bunch of online white, largely older leftists became extremely incensed that this guy was not doing what they said. They were aggrieved enough that the Democratic leadership did not fulfill their Internet fantasies of Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc. being hauled out of the capitol in leg irons headed for the Hague, but when you added a relative newcomer to the mix, and a black man, it made for a toxic combination of intense entitlement, curdled idealism, and vaguely defined racism. And it continued for several years - even now, in some online pockets - where the dedicated Internet left came down on Obama almost immediately for being a 'shill' who didn't destroy the banks, arrest Bush and institute the public option with a magic wand. The bulk of the party has come to love the Obamas, but there's still not that much daylight between a certain element of the far left and the far right. There are still outrage pundits out there like Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald who never grew up or grew out of the Bush years, and consider any liberal or progressive politician who does not meet their impossible ideological standards to be the worse enemy than Donald Trump, and consider America to be a dystopic hell to be perpetually shamed for not catching up with their strain of thought quickly enough. Greenwald was all but drummed out of serious discussions in the later Bush years because he proved impossible for anyone to get along with, but he had a comeback by leaning on the quasi-racist far left element and Snowden over the last five years. And this year you have angry loons like Michael Tracey from Vice slowly metamorphosizing from an aggrieved Berniebro to almost a Trump surrogate on Twitter day after day. Every piece of bad news about Trump is met with a retort about Hillary and the oligarchy.
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Trump sort of concedes that he might lose (while bashing Michelle Obama).
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Trump walked out of two interviews in Ohio the other night, mumbling "I'm the least racist person you ever met."
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Brian Williams just all but called Mark Halperin a Trump surrogate to Halperin's co-host John Heilemann - "[he] gave Mr. Trump every bit of the benefit of the doubt possible."
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Oh lord, he bombed. What a debacle.
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Wow - didn't see this last night post-debate. Trump angrily ripping up his notes.
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Yeah, I was sleeping off some jet lag so I didn't get to mention the rest of Morning Joe: The panelists continued to surprisingly revolt against Joe and Mika as Harold Ford got into a major fight with them as well while the two of them continued to sputter that they'd been 'very fair' about Trump and that 'everyone but us' is making too big a deal of Trump's insistence on not conceding. It was pathetic. Their one ally, of course: Mark Halperin, who went full Tea Party and insisted "only the elites" care about what Trump said and if only he hadn't he would've done great last night. Sure, bud. Of course, every focus group from last night indicated the "real people" all did care about what he said and found it disqualifying. Here is a partial write-up from TPM. More from WaPo and Media Matters. Meanwhile:
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Holy shït: A disgusted Bill Kristol, of all (terrible) people, just got into a major scrap with those two when he said Trump should be treated as 'a fluke' in the future. Mika protested that he was the nominee and had achieved a major triumph, and Kristol basically called her and Scarborough on giving Trump a pass. It exploded into a tiff, he shouldn't have backed down. It's a weird moment when I find myself rooting for Bill Kristol.
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God, Joe Scarborough and Mika are so pathetic. They've been desperately carrying water for Trump for several weeks now as he's flamed out, since their much-publicized fateful meeting with him at Trump Tower in late September in the hopes of 'mending fences'. Now they've both become these rabid advocates for Trump while the rest of the media abandons him, finger-wagging at Democrats and the Clinton team for being 'holier than thou' and blaming the rest of the media for 'overblowing everything'. Even weak-kneed Mika has become a pro-Trump attack dog. Every time Trump has a new catastrophe, Joe and Mika are there the next morning to claim everyone else in the media is blowing out of proportion and acting disgusted that Hillary Clinton is 'so arrogant.' No one believes them anymore and they're alone in this now even on their live panels, but here they are this morning mocking the rest of the panel guests and complaining that everyone is 'overthinking' Trump's refusal to concede - no big deal! He's just being careful! Mika tried to trot out every Democratic allegation of election fraud over 15 years as though it were the same, and Joe just filibustered for at least five minutes against the rest of the guests, raging that 'you must all think I'm stupid' while Mika tittered. These two are melting down and why they feel so bound to Trump's rise or fall is beyond me, unless he really does have dirt on their alleged personal relationship. I don't know how long they're going to keep this show on the air as is. They're not setting the trends, they've just humiliated themselves.
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I'm more livid by the day. I can't imagine how she feels. Moreover, I can't imagine how any woman, including any of you, feels. I think this entire sick farce has shamed our nation, but what women must feel - watching the future first woman President up against a misogynist bully - is beyond me. My mother worked on Capitol Hill most of her professional life, lobbying on behalf of Democratic leaders. She got her start campaigning for Bobby Kennedy. When I think what she must surely have endured at times from men like this on the Hill - and has never once spoken of - I just choke. I can't wait to exorcise this entire sad year, and that starts with burning this filth off the face of the national consciousness. Like taking a match to an leech. He'll still be out there in some deep recesses and small corners of our country, but he will be profoundly diminished, like the monster in Stephen King's It; he never be like this or how he was again. He will be Sarah Palin-ized. There is no worse fate for Donald Trump than to be ignored. To him it is a living death. I can't remember if this was posted here, or if I even posted it myself. I'm too worn out to check. Read it if you haven't. It's important. It outlines in absolutely horrific, excruciating detail exactly what Donald Trump represents and why he has to be destroyed. I have every confidence we are about to do that. On a lighter note, note the one Trump child not as downcast as the rest of the family post-debate.
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The pundits are almost all saying Hillary won it (as are the polls). Everything is about Trump's disastrous flameout.- The Politics Thread
Maddow on Kellyanne and Rudy's whirlwind denial interview: "That was totally insane"- The Politics Thread
Don Jr. was embarrassing himself in front of the press pool, rambling a mile a minute. He and Reince Priebus (the last GOP man standing?) are trying to quantify Trump's ruinous comments, claiming "only if there is real evidence" they'll contest the election. Oh God, it's Rudy and Kellyanne! They both insist that he will accept the results unless there is evidence.- The Politics Thread
Right-wing John King on CNN says Republicans are emailing him in disgust (with Trump). The GOP re-revolt begins (again).- The Politics Thread
Well, this is gonna be a blowout election. And he had another very bad night. Time for closing statements. Let's see what Donald comes up with. Trump hides behind his lectern as Hillary comes down to thank Wallace and then into the audience. The defining moments: Trump calling her "a nasty woman" and announcing he will "keep [America] in suspense" about not contesting the election. The audience gasped. It's over.- The Politics Thread
Hillary: "I want to ask Donald when he thinks America was great. [...] He was criticizing our govt for decades. Back in 1987 he took out a $1000 ad in the NYT during President Reagan's time. This is the way Donald thinks about himself, puts himself into the middle and says I only can fix it." Wallace has hit Hillary with a number of FOX/Breitbart memes, but overall he has been very fair and held Trump to the fire like no other moderator. He's done the best job of the three debates. Hillary: "I will raise taxes on the wealthy, assuming Donald doesn't figure out a way to get out of it." Trump: "Such a nasty woman." - The Politics Thread
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