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I have a very healthy skepticism given the description of the show, and the generally very slipshod pacing and characterization on most non-streaming or premium cable primetime TV in this day and age. But Kelly, Eva and Sarah have all been doggedly loyal to the show for many years, and I am going to give it a chance. I am on the lookout for the pilot script.

Twin Peaks was the biggest TV show on the planet when it aired. As for the OP, I know what I'd do with OLTL, but while I have no real expectation of working in TV or interest, I'm still keeping it in a drawer and out of the public eye lol. That's just professional 101. People can ask me privately sometime and I might answer. And Dylan, if you're going to make OPs like this and be all over Pine Valley, you should probably try actually watching the soaps you keep invoking, especially All My Children.

That's not a stupid hand game.

As a Jewish dude I am obvs sensitive to the kind of wink-nod Nazi shít we see IRL all the time now with racists trying to be cute. But I can't see enough of his hand or the angles there to be certain it isn't just how he positioned himself. My hands do weird stuff sometimes too. I have no doubt Big Steve could be full MAGA but I am not gonna Da Vinci Code that without seeing more. That Ingo/Mo shít needs disciplining though. Frank won't do a thing.

SPOILER-ish leaked image from next week's finale (not too spoilery, but still):

Thread and article. This is why it's so important for Abrams, etc. to keep doing the work they're doing.

Beltway media are excitedly RTing a Maureen Dowd column (which I am not linking) punching down at any criticism of the press from the left, of course. They only react this way to critique from liberals, which has intensified considerably in the last five years, because they are conditioned to be deferential to the right and disdain/feel ashamed with the right's identification of them with the left. The fight raged all day on Twitter, but here's some commentary on Jon Ralston's haughty agreement with it.

Why did I think Guza wrote part of the Clay gaslighting Stacey story? Clay's dark Shakespearean monologues (right around this exact time, IIRC) during certainly seemed like Guza.

People are fired for dumber reasons than that in soaps all the time. They fire an actor quickly if they think another actor can fix it, even when the problem is the narrative. It's a cheap band-aid. It happens constantly with bad stories and pairings in soaps. It doesn't have to be some high-minded "creative" reason. If there was some deep skullduggery surrounding the Taylor recast on DOOL we would have known about it then and now; lots of people had sources, especially at that show. It was a bad pairing in a bad story on a bad show, and no one running DOOL was very bright at the time. They panicked over pushing a bad quickie love story, tried to fix it, then shitcanned it altogether a few months after that while also firing the HW responsible. It's not the first or last time that sequence of events has happened in daytime, and it doesn't require a secret scandal.

We've all seen how this business works. I never saw any sign of there being any more to it other than the dumb instant E.J./Taylor story didn't work and DAYS was flailing, like it often did at that time.

Oh, they will sooner or later.

It's The Hill (a GOP clickbait farm) quoting Manchin.

If it's the thing I saw where I said she was young a few weeks ago, I didn't consider any of that 'cross the line horrible'.

I think we're going to find Manchin and Sinema being dared to buck party votes soon enough. And I think they'll fold in time. I do not think they will switch, period. I do think they need to be pressured sooner, and will soon. I don't think we're done with the minimum wage, but I'm not surprised it's not happening this second. A lot of the far left online a) will never be satisfied with anyone not Bernie Sanders in office and b) do not have much bearing on the realities in the party outside Twitter, period. Last year proved that all the way through. Anything expecting this to all get handled in month 1 was in fantasyland.

I remember that episode from last summer. That was so bizarre, devoting what felt like half the episode to that old-timey troupe surrounded by the predominantly white cast. In 1993!

They should've made her ISA or whatever the agency is called on DAYS. The business could've been a cover job, like how John sometimes operates. Everyone did. His return in 2013 was unexpectedly thrilling - what he'd physically lost to drugs, he still had in presence and charm.

I don't think Georgie was ever Pratt's type, lol. Or anyone else's in power at GH back then. They lucked into that pairing and took advantage of it til they could move Scott Clifton on. Georgie was incidental to Dillon for that entire run. He got the lion's share of stories and paraded around to new toy Lulu, etc. Lindze was seen as the 'homely' girl fans liked but couldn't carry her own A-story and got backburnered. Which is exactly what JFP essentially told her in a meeting, allegedly - that GH would never be the place for her to break out. The problem with Maxie is as others have said; their stories should have split between the Jones sisters. Georgie modulates Maxie, and Maxie is the wild contrast to her more conventional heroine sister. This is a family structure in daytime as old as the hills, going back to Y&R's Brooks sisters, back to the various Hortons or Snyders on ATWT or DOOL, you name it. That is what these contrasting family members are for. Pratt's types were Courtney, Faith, etc. I can't remember him ever writing a young woman like Georgie while in the driver's seat at any show he worked on. Alison Parker and Jo on Melrose Place or the heroines of 90210 don't count; those shows were the product of many writers and they'd been there long before he took direct control. It would be easy to resurrect Georgie, Emily, etc. with the stroke of a pen and a couple days of airtime, blaming GH's large and historical cast of supervillains. The background is all there for it with both families. You don't need to keep them on contract and around long term without story until you find one for one of them sometime. Just bring them back in an anniversary or sweeps period, send them off happy. Done.

There were people who were going to trash any aspect of it period, to be clear. Many just wanted Mommy Dixie back with Tad. Cady's skill level at that point was clearly so far beyond the crap she'd done in her pre-ATWT run at AMC after returning in the late 90s; she deserved more and got it. But the day to day plotting and writing mangled it.

I think Robin Wright is the same way, and she's been more charitable in recent years on SB. There are certainly stuck-up, dismissive stars re: their time on soaps. But I think people are way too knee-jerk with Wright (who had a tough time and was young) and some others.

I thought on paper Dixie's 2006 return was a great idea - the tragic heroine who thought she was incurably sick or dying or whatever hiding away from her family, made harder-edged and darker (per Cady's post-ATWT strengths) by her time in isolation, etc. But the part where she literally sent her cousin to town to pose as her, was gaslit into giving up her daughter, was just very difficult to accept IMO. And it didn't get much better over time. A lot of it was the execution. She didn't have to be that cold or distant to Tad and J.R. They didn't have to revile her. It could've been much more nuanced while also allowing Dixie to be more complex a la Rosanna and not revert to wheedling soccer mom Dixie of the late 90s.