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At least put him with a sketchy bounty hunter or something if you have to keep bringing in random chicks for Sonny. That might be different!

Two things can be true: Vanessa is a ho and I think LB is killing it.

I like how Curtis had no idea who Isaiah (a.k.a. The Thumb) was when he started babbling on about Portia, lol.

They hated her, and I did too a lot of the time lol. She was just a moaning, drab matron who everyone seemed to obsess over in these bad stories. I didn't fully get or appreciate Brooke til much later, when she returned in the late 2000s and when I saw some of her classic material. But I think a lot of the 90s did not serve her (or several other women in that age range) well.

Which is funny because I kind of rolled my eyes at them the first time around - it felt like a C-pairing of desperation/timewasting in that era, and I was still raw about losing Erica and Dimitri, didn't care about Brooke in the late '90s and I knew the show was not prioritizing him (in hindsight, likely in part due to BTS reasons). But they did have chemistry, and had just as much on PP if not moreso. Given the obvious issues onscreen with David Canary in 2013 I suspect they would've soon paired Brooke and Dimitri up for real after giving Adam an offscreen death, with Adam's kids having the knives out for the interloper (something they teased before AMC 2.0 ended). And I think it would've worked. Barr and Nader were great together that second go-round.

I don't think Martin has been in that zone since the secret came out tbh.

There's no drama. He's just being respectful.

I know! At the time I thought both were crazy, and I was still a young teen fairly new to soaps. Like, who was gonna get behind those dudes for Brooke??

I agree, but I already complained about the lack of the old docks set and the rarely-seen Q study lol. Jason should stay at the Qs AFAIC. It's the best place left for him.

I've talked about Bill Gunn and Ishmael Reed's Personal Problems a number of times over the years, including when it first got unearthed and screened in NYC maybe 15 years ago. Belatedly, here's an essay Ishmael Reed did for the Criterion Collection a few years back outlining the show/film's various iterations. I believe you can still stream PP for free on Kanopy.

I thought Dante moved into the Q mansion with the kids (which, I'm sorry, the close bond between Rocco and Danny is great and should stay but let's not pretend they're brothers because Sam and Dante dated for awhile, and nobody cares about Scout - eventually the show is going to have to move on from some of this). I do wonder if the penthouse stands unoccupied. Pretty wild if so after all these years.

I remember this article. I thought Roscoe also later said he thought it was to be a redemption story when he took the job. But I can't imagine how that could ever have been possible given the initial secret.

If you check the spoiler threads, you'll note that is not likely to be the case for long. I do think they need to lock Alex Cheeks down.

Still, modern CBS Daytime has never been moving like that lol. Let alone any of the current soaps, until now.

That's the one.

And maybe the youngest to come out! Glad for his success on Broadway.

I still suspect Izaiah is ultimately going to be a feint for Kat. The strife between Jacob and Naomi is not coincidental. I can see her clashing with the brother-in-law and them ending up in a tryst, which in turn leads Kat to Jacob finally. I don't find either of the Hawthorne marrieds terribly interesting, but I do think Jacob and Kat have real chemistry. Still, I'm all for Izaiah mixing it up with Kat and Eva. Anything to get Tomas out.

I'm not sure if Miller was the male writer who went through hell with McTavish or not at AMC. @Khan might know. He pre-dates her considerably though, and IIRC per McTavish the Brent/Marion story at GL was mostly her own brainchild. I don't remember any indication that Miller drove a lot of horror story at AMC.

I prefer Curtains to Prom Night (it's a miracle the first film works at all given the production) but PN is definitely dark and creepy. Starting with the gruesome child death in the first 10 mins.

Guza did several classic Canadian slashers in the '80s, most famously the original Prom Night with Jamie Lee Curtis and the pretty solid Curtains with Samantha Eggar and Linda Thorson. (Its ice rink kill sequence is still being homaged today, including in The Black Phone 2) I think he did them not long before or after leaving GH for the first time, where he'd been a staff writer in the early '80s. He wasn't the first or last soap scribe to do horror. Victor Miller from AMC created and wrote the original Friday the 13th, and is still locked in a dispute over the rights today (hence no new movies).

They really had Dani demanding '3 orgasms a day' on CBS in the afternoon, on Douglas Marland's network! What a time to be alive. BTG has its issues but its candor is to be applauded. I never thought I'd see the day for soaps. Especially when GH, which used to take a ton of risks, cannot and will not approach sex like that today (despite briefly brushing up against it last spring with the Drew/Nina sexcapades which also had some very blunt talk early on).

I don't think we need to claim that either Greg or Karla would be 'wasted' on the other, both of whom are stunning and talented. Just be a fan of one or the other if you prefer, it's fine. That being said I would like him with Nicole, but as I've commented before I do think the show is going to have to thread this needle carefully given the optics of some of the storylines the show opened on, namely two cheating Black husbands.

It's been a good 30+ years, so I really think Suzanne Ciani was just being lighthearted about it many decades later in that documentary. In the end it was scoring for a soap opera which is a kind of goofy gig to the outside world, but they did it very well and clearly took it seriously at the time. Gottlieb also clearly took the show seriously when she worked on it, based on many period interviews. Was she dismissive of soaps when she started? Absolutely. So was Harding Lemay. As for Clint Ritchie, he was a complicated guy at best. Erika is very fulsome with praise for him in the oral history even in those same passages where she talks about him being impossible to work with at times. And he did some of his best work in those years. I think if he was totally unmanageable he would not have lasted so long. That's not an excuse for his behavior, which doesn't have one, but the truth BTS in daytime, over decades, is often more complex than just someone being good or bad at their job. Unless you're Arthur Burghardt, who everyone hated.

This is the soap opera business. Someone having a contract at another soap does not preclude them being released and appearing on their old soap at a later date (or being recast). Happens all the time.

Like I keep saying: This show is incapable of going six months without a baby story. It is 'safe' and fills time for months.