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We all know when another blond under 28 with reasonably trimmed body hair shows up you will roll out the instant fan club. Let these posters live!

I was telling Darn about this earlier, but HBS (who lobbied to get killed off when JFP made Kale Browne's Sam impregnate Nora) and Mark Derwin, an avowed Friend of Jill, both had no problem dunking on Browne with very little anonymity in Jeff Giles' book. And Tim Stickney openly put him on blast in the late '90s/early 2000s in the AOL chat era, I think. I think KB was a good actor in a very forced part, but I don't know of a person at OLTL with a good thing to say about him and he was fired the instant Jill left the studio for GH. Larry Lau, OTOH, seemed well-liked, especially by Hillary and Cat Hickland. He did almost make Sam tolerable. Back then I thought I would've put him and Lindsay back together if he'd had to be around (something the show seemed to sometimes hint was inevitable even with Browne in the role, but never did because it would making JFP's preferred characters expendable), but Cat caught fire with Ty Treadway and the rest is history. It felt very darkly appropriate to me that a psychotic Lindsay ended up killing Sam. Lindsay was one of the original desperate housewives - a woman who had given up her youth and career to make a home and family for a man who never really wanted her and then tossed her aside, who remained driven by her anger against him and the woman who'd taken him from her for years to come. When Mitch came along, put the gun in her hand and pointed it at Sam - even if she thought it was Troy - the fact that it was Lindsay who killed her husband seemed very fitting. Anyway: Way OT!

I mean, Taylor Swift decided to remake her entire catalog bc of a conflict with past management. Then there's the Dr. Luke/Kesha scandal. It's not far-fetched. The execution of the story is the issue.

Christopher Atkins in 1983 was absolutely a twink.

I remember that too, and I'm sure she was involved. But if Frons and Guza had wanted her around it would've happened - everything came from Frons back then.

Excerpts from the last soap work of the great Beverlee McKinsey, who did this guest role as Myrna Slaughter in '94 as a favor to her son (Scott McKinsey) and to keep her medical insurance.

Eric's secret college boyfriend, obviously.

Chris Atkins is certainly adorable and nice to look at in the story, but they do not seem well-suited lol. Same here.

I suspect it was Frons. JFP was largely a facilitator at that point, stripped of most of her control and power after her solo stint with McTavish tanked the show. She was reduced to facilitating Guza and Chuck Pratt's vision while they got co-producer credits. Frons interfaced with the HWs directly in those years and was heavily involved.

Yeah, she's a big right winger and one of the few has-been celeb "gets" they often muster at events, like Antonio Sabato lol.

They could have. They didn't want to accommodate her request for more time with her newborn son; they had her on all week. That's why she walked.

Kanan has the final seasons of Cobra Kai and will likely parlay that into more high-profile work, he'll be alright. Plus B&B and Y&R will keep bouncing him around for years to come when he's available. Do I wish he'd settle down at GH with creatives who appreciate him, sure, but he's got work.

In diametrically opposed news, I have dug into some of the 1966 episodes of GL. I see one of Agnes' lesser-known archetypes from both AMC and Loving recurs: The poor little rich kid/soft boi, in this case Don Scardino's adorable Johnny Fletcher, along with her classic teen romance angle with Fran Myers' Peggy (previously only available to be seen in eps where she is suffering through Roger Thorpe over a decade later). I mostly know poor sweet Don Scardino from getting slaughtered in Cruising, but what are ya gonna do.

Beth, Cassie and Harley all had like 6-10 kids between them by the end. I couldn't keep track of them all. Plus many others for other women on the show. It was the precursor to what became of AMC in the last years of the network show, and GH today. Breeding and endless babies vs. any more risky stories (with a side of Wheeler's Mormonism). Didn't Beth and Phillip literally videotape themselves dying on that mountain for their daughter lol? And then I think inadvertently filmed themselves fùcking. Rauch!

I do and I should! I do think the show missed a trick not putting her with A Martinez as they allegedly toyed with in '99. Supposedly Genie was for it and I liked them together.

I would put her with a Black WSB man, someone who can compete with the shadow of Luke at least. I wouldn't do an affair per se but you can play the quad drama as she slowly goes to this man and Kevin goes to Lucy. But of course, I wanted it all to begin first with a forced (and platonic) marriage to wacky Victor while Kevin got locked in the asylum by bad guys for six months (only to be freed by Lucy) so what do I know.

Any time I say this people get mad! The truth is that Genie made it clear to Frank she would not return again in the mid-2010s without a) a contract and b) a serious love interest, and what they gave her was Kevin who was on recurring so it meant not hiring someone new. Kevin is a fairly active character in story and Genie and Jon Lindstrom clearly love being paired together, but the relationship has never made much sense to me at all. They have a lot of fans in the audience but I think people are just happy to see Laura happy. I would play them but ultimately break them up. Laura deserves a new, action-oriented man where the Luke question can be openly dealt with (as opposed to shrugged off with pablum and very surface material, the way they've done it so far) and Kevin deserves poor Lucy.

Chrishell was almost unrecognizable in that promo. I am curious how this show is doing on Peacock (and what a full Jamey Giddens-scripted episode looks like 😶) so I will have a look.

Anyone at B&B has relative job security for daytime with the show's secure position internationally, and they allow HT to direct. I can't fault her for staying where she is, same as the very talented writers they have churning out that slop. I also think CBS or Sony would be very uncomfortable with HT back in the role as I think they would call her 'the wrong physical type' - as in, not hot enough. Which is ludicrous, but that's exactly how networks think and how they've come to think of Victoria.

I do think they're testing Ava and Austin. Howarth and Maura have had chemistry since her earliest days with him as the mortifying Peroxide Blond Franco, but the role is still wrong for him and it's too late.

It felt like 5 years. I only got interested in GL at that time because of Annie, then the clone and then a bit later because I knew Carlo and Maggie from OLTL (Thom Christopher and Crystal Chappell) had moved there thanks to the soap mags. I was beyond baffled by the San Cristobel story and the endless parade of overly lit pastel suits, big titted blondes, etc. The whole show was just garish and loud. Frank Grillo turned out to be very talented in films but I didn't understand how he was supposed to be Roger's son or whatever. I remember the rumors about people hearing him and Wendy Moniz banging through the walls.

I love Christie but I do not think she had the chops to follow Heather Tom.

Folks, if you're not watching the show (and I'm not yet either) maybe let the folks who are weigh in on the content change.

They are [!@#$%^&*]-scared of writing for any new generation, let alone a non-white one.

I do wonder if at least some (more?) of the P&G or ABCD soap library ending up on Pluto or FreeVee is a matter of time. I wouldn't have thought so a couple years ago but now the overhead and debts facing companies like WB/Discovery, NBC/Peacock, etc. in the streaming wars are immense. They all have intense expenses to deal with from their streaming platforms, anything they can monetize helps.