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Sheesh that storyline seems way more intense than I thought it would be. So essentially Warren was gaslighting Suzy to the hilt, and had somehow roped Wendy into the plan as well. That is insane. Thanks for those... it was full on just watching those clips.

I watched some Search For Tomorrow episodes from 1984 a few months back, and was curious about one of the storylines. Warren Carter had just escaped from jail where he had faked his death, and was now stalking Suzy while secretly taunting Jo, Martin, Cagney, etc with mysterious gifts. It had got to the point where Warren was hiding in an old house and was blackmailing someone to keep his secret. What ended up happening wth that storyline? I know by December 1985 (when Lisa Peluso left as Wendy), Cagney and Suzy were happily married, but what happened in between?

Depends on when this was though. Even into the 90s and early 2000s the enmity between Kay and Jill was still gigantic. So it wouldn’t be out of character for Kay to see Jill as “evil”, and nor would it be out of character for Jill to think the same of Kay.

It’s funny hearing all this talk about social cues being ignored and that sort of thing back in the 90s. If that had been going on today, a smart writer would be bringing up neurodiversity as a social issue big time (and they kinda did it with Theo’s autism). It might have seemed completely far fetched back then when Asperger’s was only starting to emerge, but now that there is less of a social stigma around it nowadays (but nevertheless it still exists), neurodiversity is something that should be more explored.

I remember watching that whole storyline as a teenager back in Australia, and my mum always used to make fun of it because of Mamie’s constant “but she’s MAH SISTAAAH” when Lillie was recovering from depression at Nate and Olivia’s. That has never left my mind to this day...

They did this with Victor and Leanna in 1988 when they got married right after his divorce from Nikki. As it turns out, the marriage was invalid because Victor hadn’t waited the required six months. You’d think he would learn 😏

Sometimes I wonder back when Bobby Warner was reintroduced in the mid-late 90s, how would things have panned out if somehow Peter Bergman had come back as Cliff at that point (yes yes I know he was well and truly at Y&R by that stage, but one can dream)? That would have been an interesting dynamic to explore especially with Nina coming back for a little bit as well (and the soap geek in me reckons Peter Bergman and Brian Gaskill had enough physical resemblance at least to pull it off).

According to the SoapCentral character bio, Liz Foster and Bruce Henderson are indeed listed as siblings. One thing that piqued my curiosity - the mention of the Montgomery surname for Claudette. Was there any link to Travis and Jack years later?

That must have been just after Tammy Taylor left Y&R. And Marlena’s radio show - was that where the Salem Strangler storyline started?

This! It was a masterstroke getting, firstly, Alex Donnelly back as Diane in 1996/7, and then Eileen Davidson back as Ashley a couple of years later. The enmity between these two characters stretches all the way back to the early 80s when Ashley caught Jack and Diane together in bed on the day of Jack’s wedding to Patty, and having the original actresses in those roles cross paths again in the spermgate storyline was just too delicious (no pun intended). Notwithstanding the whole ickyness of that storyline in the first place, it did create (literally) a new generation of legacy characters in Abby and Kyle. Have they ever played up the potential conflict between these two that would arise as a result of how they were conceived? Are there any clips of AD’s Diane and ED’s Ashley together floating around on YT anywhere? It would be fascinating to watch from a historical perspective.

The Rescotts arrived sometime in 1984, apparently, if this is anything to go by... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Loving_cast_and_characters?wprov=sfti1

Oooh look at how young some of those peeps were back then. And a small glimpse of Roya Megnot as Ava with whom I assume was Perry Stephens’ Jack during their “romance”?

Can I just confirm what you were WTFing about exactly? Some of these Love In The Afternoon teasers were damn awesome.

Speaking of the secret room, does anyone know if there are any more 1985 episodes online pertaining to the Tina paternity storyline? I’m interested to see how it all unfolds...

Am I the only one who had to make sure they weren’t seeing Brenda Dickson doing belly dancing?? Sharon Case at her best ❤️

This is epic. Why oh why did Y&R not hang onto Alex Donnelly longer??

Not from the 1989 episodes I’ve seen. But there was a late 1989 episode where Jim/Nikki and Scott/Lauren had a “double date” at the ranch, which surprised me because I had never seen Nikki and Lauren together in ANY scene ever prior to this. This was just after Jack had returned (as Peter Bergman) and they were all talking about having a double wedding between Xmas and NY. Skip to 15:55 in this episode and you’ll see a young Danny interacting with Patty (Lillibet Stern), when he was still kinda seeing her (back when she was about to marry Jack who was cheating on her with Diane).

Oh come now, John O’Hurley wasn’t that bad in the role (although I do find it funny that he was supposed to play Scott’s father, and yet was only 2 years older than Peter Barton in real life 🤪).

You should watch the 1989 playlist I’ve been watching lately. 1989 seemed to be all about Cricket and her new found family (including ex-fiance Scott, as well as her long long father and her previously estranged mother).

These two clips capture the moments that I described to you. Enjoy!

Yeah from what I understand and have read in various Y&R histories, she flipped out after Brent Davis told her he was her father. I’m curious as to the exact timeline myself, as I had been keen to see if there had been any Ashley/Dina confrontation that resulted from the reveal. But that initial breakdown certainly did establish frailties in Ashley’s mental health, and was thus used again when she aborted Victor’s baby and completely went off the deep end subsequently.

I’m picturing Thom and Heather in my head together, and you’re right - that would have been 🔥🔥🔥. Victor referring to him as “that damn punk” and both Jill and Kay getting right in his face because of it. Story almost writes itself.

I assume you meant Chase rather than Chance. Even so, that would have been one hell of a triangle, especially considering Phillip’s sexual inclinations 2 decades later 😏 (and yes I know you meant Cricket, and I completely agree with your sentiment about Nina’s addition to the quadrangle. Tricia Cast gave it a whole different dimension).

There is a 1987 episode up on Youtube where Casey tells Nikki that her cancer had gone into remission, and Nikki races out to the ranch to tell Victor the good news - only to spot him from a distance with Ashley, who’s making peace with Victor regarding the abortion and her reasoning behind it. From that point forward, she decided to keep the truth from Victor so that she can hang on to him a bit longer. I believe Jack also had some influence in this.

Darnell Williams and Kim Delaney had such amazing friend chemistry (of course we all know he could have chemistry with a brick wall). I wonder what would have happened if they hadn’t killed off Jenny.