BetterForgotten

Tonally, her work and her style just seemed all wrong for this show. The stunt casting towards the end also drives me mad.

I see MAB haps been updating her Wikipedia again and removing mention of any criticism, lol. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Arena_Bell

GL had also gotten to an odd point in its last 15 or so years where it felt like they only considered Reva and Harley as their tentpole characters. If you weren’t connected to those two, you usually warranted little investment. That’s partly why the early 90’s is looked back on as the last great era, it was the last time the show felt like a full ensemble piece.

I mean, by the time anyone cared, they were likely being told by CBS and P&G that those characters were too “old” in age and that “no one would remember them.” 😑

MAB was responsible for killing off Brad and Colleen, lol.

Yes, I feel the same way about Millee Taggart as well, who has also been spoken about recently as well. Maybe not a creative genius, but reliable, smart, and loves the genre.

I think Horgan left the show in a stable place with all the correct moving pieces for Marland to come in and take advantage of.

VR mentioned in her podcast that one male producer told her that she "cared too much." Which I guess was code for "stay in your place!" I'm guessing that was Ed Scott...

There was a maturity Heather brought to Lilly that I appreciated and that went away when Byrne came back. I was never wild about Lilly/Holden, so I appreciated the pivot the character took in the early 90's. And agreed, the Damian storyline was the saving grace for Byrne's Lilly when she came back to the role.

I liked what Courtney said about writing for the show in the early 90's and how vivid and clear all of the individual characters voices were during that era. You don't often get that. Great dialogue and strong actors to match it just goes a long way.

I did, because I could actually stand Lilly with Heather in the role...

Y&R had Hillary and Phyllis for a while in recent years, but then they killed Hillary and brought back Stafford...

She mentions Ellen Holly in that clip. I’d love an hour with her and Ms. Holly.

It doesn't surprise me that he missed the mark on what he did well as opposed to what he didn't though...

Pelphrey and Zimmer trying to out-diva one another almost every day was when I knew there was no saving this show. Peapack was just the final nail.

Yeah, she's Tweeted about it before. Alan is such a hack that would never dream to ask the specific questions fans want to learn more about.

Did anyone even bother to ask Courtney about writing the Maureen/Lillian kitchen scenes or what it was like writing for the show during the Curlee/Demorest era?

James Harmon Brown is ancient. 🤐

One thing I guess we should give the show credit for is that Christine has never forgiven Phyllis or whitewashed her crimes like everyone else has. Christine still has a deep-rooted hated for the Red Menace that will never go away.

To think there was probably a large number of people who cheered when Phyllis mowed them down, lol. If Phyllis had another adversary, she likely would have been another flash in the pan villainess.

Phelps and Derwin hated each other so much that she later hired Derwin at OLTL so he could stink up that show too in a front-burner romance with Erika Slezak?

Sheffer got a lot of hype because he made the show so plot and stunt driven. Anyone else would have gotten torn to shreds for some of the things the soap press let him get away with in the early 00's. The equally AWFUL Leah Laiman did him a favour in many ways - making the show so boring, yet ridiculously plotted. People had become accustomed to the show having a ridiculous element, but Sheffer's hype machine and stunts were better done.

And I could watch Maureen Garrett play anything. No histrionics or annoying tics, always a believable and realistic performance. It's sometimes hard to reconcile this Holly with the one who returned a decade later, but the heart of the character was always there and Maureen never phoned it in.

They may not want to go through the effort of showing two 30-min episodes, or bother with editing two 30 min episodes to complete the hour-long timeslot. Little sh!t like that could be more money than they're willing to spend.