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AMEN.

THIS. I also think this (and her ability to read a person like a scripture is why she has fans.

You know I will want your thoughts on the ending over on the UNDOING thread.

And goodness knows these girls love to compare notes.

Yeah...I think I missed that news. Not surprised, but shocked because evil always seems to live forever. You sure the devil want him?

SLC WOW. Just like last week, last night was A LOT. Just like Sheree during the RHOA S10 Reunion, Mary found herself in the hot seat. And EVERYTHING WAS TOUCHED. Side note: some of that was some recent stuff, but they couldn't do any of the recent online drama for RHOP, but I digress...). Problematic she was, but at least Mary answered everything without running out, minimum deflect, and no reciepts from Production...and Production had PLENTY. So it made me wonder about how true (or false) the 7-11 remarks are. It does not make Mary any less problematic. But it was interesting that they did show what we missed and yet nothing on that. And speaking of problematic...I am now side-eyeing Heather as well. Part of that has to do with Production again. And they HAD those receipts as well. So I find that I agree with Fabulous Ice and that she really is not scared of Lisa. And that Mary was saying it to give her opinion/observation. Which was wrong. Maybe. However, Heather ran with it. So...while I won't call her Kyle 2.0 yet...I am afraid that maybe the hype and fan love might have gotten to her head. And even worse than that...perhaps we are now seeing why she is friends with Jen. And you know what they say about the company you keep. I am so intrigued where they can go from here come Season 2 (currently filming). There are so many dynamics in play. And it could go any way. And since Jen vs Mary might be ending, I would be here for Heather vs Lisa. They are vicious, BUT NOT TOXIC. Yet. JEN. She should just stay just like this. Mary still triggered her, but they were able to talk finally and resolve their issues for the main part. And Mary still gathered her. lol. While I have not forgotten she was the one to spread the Meredith rumor, she was coming across the victim. MEREDITH. Other than that funny moment where she left with Whitney, she didn't do much. MARY. Sorry, but...RESPECT. She was in that hot seat. And she gave logical reasons for what she said or did. And then...she went waaaaaaaaaaay left. That ShebySheree delusion is real. But again, she at least sat there and took the heat and was being held accountable. And I hollered at how she stayed with her heel on Jen's neck. LOL!! But happy they resolved it between them. Jen even gave her napkin when she was crying. #progress WHITNEY. Her and Heather really do make a great team. And we know that Whitney is quite messy. But nothing to really add. When Heather stopped attacking Fabulous Ice, there was Whitney. So Fabulous Ice's comment of the two of them was quite apt. LISA. OH...MY...GOD. SHE SHATTERED. I'm sorry, you all. I was...not...expecting that. AT ALL. I considered her and Heather to be evenly matched. If anything, I always wanted Heather to bring it. And Heather BROUGHT IT. And rewatching it, you could see the cracks in the glass. I guess my Ice is used to people being run over roughshod by her. Last week I felt that Lisa was jealous of Heather. But now...I feel that runs both ways. In fact, I felt they were two signs of the same coin...that one wishes/wants/desires the qualities that the other one has. And with that, that meant that they know the right pressure points to hit...the right ingredients for a good old fashion feud/rivalry. This round though goes to Heather. Once Heather point out to Fabulous Ice (the Type A personality she is) that she was in LAST place...it was over. Lisa lost her s&*(. HEATHER. La Dame said it best...I see you, girl. I see you CLEARLY. Here I was enjoying her (and I still like her) and how nice she was and how geniune she was. The first time I started to think otherwise was when Mary clairified her words...she said her thoughts from her point of view, not that she heard them say it. Still...yeah...Heather and Whitney ran with it. And then...PRODUCTION rolled the footage. I was jaw dropped. And then...Heather threw in Meredith in the middle of her fighting with Lisa...because Heather would not dare go after the kids so she went for another of Lisa's weaknesses. Once she used Lisa's other weakness (being last), I was reminded that someone online mentioned a few days ago that Heather...just like JEN...had been a fan of the HW shows before being casted. Had studied them just like Jen has. So Now...I was like OOOOOOOOOOOOoooo...she studied well then. No wonder they are friends. She is just more subtler than Jen. What that means for Season 2 is the question for me...which Heather is it? Great episode and just as great as Part 1. No wonder they got three parts. NJ I admit...I was worried. For the last three seasons, Danielle had been the prime pot-stirrer. While Teresa got to deal with real stuff, here was Danielle bring the mess and feuding with fan fave Marge. With her put on an island (she was at home watching going by her IL hehe), it was time to see if the other girls who already had great group chemistry for the last few seasons would bring it. uH....YESSSSSSSSSS!!! That was soooo good!!!! And as Cheap said above...that's how you do a premiere. Other people should take note. I personally liked how they hanged Co-VId. It was present enough that we knew. But I did not feel they were being ignorant of it...if that makes sense. By this point the HW shows know what they are doing...not unlike daytime soaps right now so maybe that is why it did not bug me. And also when they started to film for the most part they have more knowledge of what they can and cannot do I think. Well Jackie got what she wanted...she always wanted a feud with Teresa. Now she got one. Better stay on ready, girl! I also loved that Melissa is still butthurt over Jennifer (still my fave lol) calling her out at the reunion. Marge getting the news about Evan from Teresa and her double take was hilarious. Hmmm Frankie. I have to say...I liked Teresa's pot stirring. She probably been waiting since Jackie crossed her with Joe. Let the games begin...

MINE!!! LOL

OH...MY...GOD. Hell froze over. Heather broke Fabulous Ice. I...

THAT MIGHT BE TRUE????????????????????????????????? That was just dropped on my lap yesterday and I just thought...'nnnaaaah.' But I agree. My curiosity after looking around is DEFINITELY piqued. You don't go out of your way to hide something unless there's something to hide. Where there's smoke... And yes. I loved that Tiffany and Kary made a good go at being friends. Now...Kary was always a bitca. But I know, I know...you like her. As a black man...I am also getting that sense since she has not done anything yet on air (though she drags them all to perfection on Twitter) to justify their behavior. And if Tiffany does what she said she might consider doing and pulling a Monique binder on these hoes at the reunion...I will die.

Well, before NJ starts...and it sounds like it...was...GOOD...(and Dolores keeps trending for some reason...hmmm) RHOD Well...first thing first. That midseason trailer...was underwhelming...in fact it was just the first trailer with scenes moved around. From online insiders, that was done on PURPOSE. Good for us so we don't know what is coming. But I am seriously starting to wonder what they are not showing. Is it LeeAnne said chripy Mexican bad or just juicy drama good? I at least give Production credit (same with NJ as well) for keeping what ever drama coming very very well hid where I want to know what happens next. As for this week...I loved that it got its groove back. Last week or so felt like filler. Versus the early episodes where they were easy, breezy, AND fun. With some drama. And this week was the same. Kameron with the scented Chanel iternary. Kary actually got her first LOL moment from me when she was talking about sex positions (GUUUURRL, SAME!!!!). LeeAndra and how she was slutty groupie...AND ALL THE BANDS/BAND MEMBERS SHE BEEN WITH!!! #DEAD. The walk down the hill to the breathtaking place they are staying. All of the leather LeeAndra and Tiffany had on (I know my Goth is showing). I even thought the chicken sh*t bingo was kinda funny. Of course that could not last. Which brings us to... ...LeeAndra vs Kary exploded. Grrrrr...I hate to say it, but I can see it from BOTH of their sides. I thought I would be firmly on LeeAndra's side. Uh...nope. Surprisingly, I could see Kary's point of view. HOWEVER, they both did some wrong leading up to the explosion. And it was a pretty good cliffhanger. BRANDI. Speaking of getting things out of the way...so it was wrong to have Captain Brandi with the girls, but Brandi has no problem with a sex doll called Captain D*ck on the trip and also said his name and had him around CHILDREN!???? STEPHANIE. I'll give her this much...she was right...if LeeAndra tried to leave...it would take her forever to pack. I laughed. Other than that, it continued to be clear why she and Brandi are friends...they are OBSESSED with poop and where poop comes from apparently (eating Travis's butt). Uh...not to be shady...but why? That said she was Mean Girl # 3 (with Brandi being Gretchen Weiner and Kary being...well think she was being...Regina George) and that was no bueno. Again shades of the two-faced person already hinted at. She was clearly in Kary's corner and yet wanted to run after LeeAndra. KAMERON. I would have called her a Mean Girl, but...she was just being Elle Woods. And it was funny. But I don't like her and Kary getting so close that they were being Dumb and Dumber. And it was so clear that she (and Stephanie) are soooo jealous of Tiffany. TIFFANY. Okay...Tiffany didn't need to cry and make the LeeAndra vs Kary fight about her. lol. But we all do have THAT friend. lol. That said...WOW. Tiffany was giving LOOKS. The leather dress. The shear shiny dress in her TH. She stayed looked fierce. And I was here for that. I was also here for her friendship with LeeAnne. And I was sorry to see that LeeAndra tried to sabotage any attempt of a possible Tiffany/Kary friendship. LEEANDRA. Messy. I understood why LeeAndra started to mess with the Tiffany/Kary potential friendship. She was still hurt that Kary could apologize (I know I was shocked as well) to Tiffany for how she's been treating her and just starting over. Meanwhile, Kary couldn't even apologize for the fight they also had. And a jealous friend can be a bad friend. She should have left that alone and only vented about her frustration about Kary. And she should have talked to Kary when she was ready...which should have been sooner if she was going to keep talking and talking and talking. Because it would eventually get back to Kary. And that brings me to... KARY. Who actually had some good moments...the sex talk, apologizing to Tiffany BUT she should not have eavesdropped. Eventually if she suspected they were talking about her and she was not going to call LeeAndra out right then and there. Her doing it front of everyone was to make a point. And that point was that she was HBIC. And THAT has been the real problem between the two of them. They ran the real HBIC off and are fighting for her crown. LeeAndra has been doing it by being as transparent as she can be...while being a bit messy. Kary is trying to do it by being Regina George. BOTH of them are using tactics from LeeAnne's own playbook. And honestly it is not working like they would like it to. They won't resolve if they will not listen to each other. And LeeAndra is definitely not going to listen if Kary is going to be a bitca. A bit of tea: Jen will not be on EITHER of the cast trips. Good episode.

So looks like a whole different movie!!! CGI is on point for He Who Should Have Had A Live Version of Himself Ages Ago...

I didn't care for him, but shocked nonetheless.

SLC Well it sounds like everyone will be coming for Mary tonight. That said...good to see her being a good little pot stirrer...

David Fury was not my favorite writer on that show. I would even say he was the weakest so I was worried about how it would be written. So I was happy to see that he did Cordelia Chase justice. She...FIT. Exactly for the reasons you said. Which is why she probably shouldn't have been in Season 5. lol. But there is not a frame of camera in that episode that looked at Charisma and was not stunning. She gave look after look after look. And like I said, that ending HIT. So it was definitely a case of writing, directing, and acting coming together to make something special. Yes with older eyes, I can see the burnt-out. Even when I was younger, I was thinking he's so involved with 3...cuz FIREFLY was in the mix...shows...shouldn't he get some rest? And that does show in Season 6/7 of BUFFY (though I liked season 6 better than season 7 though the coda/shoutout at the end of the first episode of Season 7 was great). And while I still love some good Buffyspeak and speak it well...times do change. That is great to hear about J. I still do not know all of who has tweeted...I feel like just about everyone has in support except for...Alyson and/or Alexis?...but it is VERY clear that Charisma was loved on both of her sets. And yes, she and David have always seem to have a great professional relationship so good to see that that extends to their non-working life. If Joss did something to Gal...just thinking it makes me see red. Pun...unintended.

I don't know if I would say together, but following the Dr. Phil storm out, he did do a follow up episode if I'm not mistaken to deal with his demons. Seem in a better place the last few years. @Cat So you never saw S5 YOU'RE WELCOME? That was prime Cordelia Chase...and regardless of the situation...very well done IMHO. Charisma post-baby body was perfection and gave new meaning after Season 4 to the phrase revenge body. That said...I've been meaning to step in here when this dropped a week ago and a friend of mine who became a big fan of BUFFY and knew I was one dropped the tweets on me. As a ANGEL fan, I had heard about what happened during Season 4. It was nice to FINALLY have it confirmed. Wow. It was a case for me of you don't know what you got until it's gone and Charisma Carpenter was that for me. Loved her in the shows and how she is one of the few characters that got a complete arc. I loved her in VERONICA MARS even if it was a bit of typecasting. And my aforementioned friend knew me well enough to know I would want to know of any new things she was in in case I missed it (I'm binging the CW show PANDORA partly cuz she makes an appearance I heard). As a fan, yeah it hurts. But I guess for me I am much much older now than I was then. Buffy and Angel I was in high school and leaving for college. I have fun memories. But over the years, I definitely don't have Joss on a pedestal like I used to. He is too messy and problematic. So hearing confirmed what he did on Angel Season 4 which could have been a great season...kinda is...is disgusting. Does not take away from my love of ANGEL. Or DOLLHOUSE. Or FIREFLY. Not sure if I could sit through BUFFY at the moment. But it's good I can seperate his work from the man. I loved Charisma's statement and why she did it. I love that so many of the cast have come out to support. And I hope nothing, but the best for all of them. Because it is a brave and the RIGHT thing to do. And as for Joss? I feel something big is coming and his days are numbered.

Great sandwich to start off my morning.

Bye, Lola.

OOoooo....good to hear. I'm behind, but CW has already started to give hints of crazy Annie Dutton at the start of the month so I look forward to more.

Same. And awwwwww at all the ABBA love. Stumbled on this on Twitter last night...and I do want to support the Kpop fans given how much HE#$ they gave to the Orange One... Same. And awwwwww at all the ABBA love. Stumbled on this on Twitter last night...and I do want to support the Kpop fans given how much HE#$ they gave to the Orange One...

You're welcome @Gray Bunny. The name. Her tagline. It just fits her so well. Like I said from Episode 1...she is everything Erika Jayne WISHED she could be when she does icy. And the money to back it up. And I agree with @Soaplovers. She would make a better villain going forward. And Jen can go the S2 Camille Grammar route. Meanwhile...that tea on Chicago!!! So He's going to try AGAIN with it? I would be down for that. Whether it is a spinoff of Tinsley and Dale or a new cast with the city vs suburbs angle. It would be cool. I agree with you and Soaplovers again. I agree as well. It's akin to Kenya leaving after Season 10 in a good place with her man and her baby on the way a la a happy ending to her thoroughline throughout (having a family). And we see how that turned out. I soooo want to see the binder. And I still love Monique. But this should have been done with Gizelle at her weakest. Too much time has passed so it looks desperate. Well allegedly there now appears to be a reason for the dramatics from Brandi. But I feel the same. When did KAMERON start to have Kary, Brandi, and Stephanie's side? Stephanie??? Yeah, at least Tiffany is trying. Tryhard or not. And I still feel her tryhard comes from a real place like you said versus SLC's Jen or RHOA Latoya. NJ OOPS!!!

I am sure I might feel differently once I see the whole scene...and I don't like Tiff making it about her though I like her as well...HOWEVER, Kary...

Well, I heard and read that Nelle's intro started good enough...it was just the reveal (Jax paid Frank) that sucked.

I saw. @victoria foxton. The last episode I saw was the February 9 (start of Sonny's funeral), but that is only because someone posted it from Canada...which I guess went ahead and aired. My system when I tried to watch the show on those days only showed the trial even though that was not the picture on the episodes.

RHOA I think Latoya said it best at dinner...this is about to go left. And left it went this Sunday. It's clear that rather than show the scenes they showed in flashback in order to get major impact (because this version of the Marlo vs Kenya would hit different if we saw in the previous 8 episodes how Marlo was talking behind Kenya's back to Latoya vs flashback), the producers are just going to milk Strippergate for all that it is worth. I definitely found a lot to laugh about this time around. It was fun watching the Aunties go out of their way to NOT be Aunties as they hanged with the Nieces. And it was all a good vibe. We even got Kenya apologizing after a proper dragging from Kandi. However, Drew took a page from RHOP S2/3 Ashley and subtly stirred the pot between Porsha and Kenya and that was just a mess. I think it's a shame that it does look like little things are what is leading to Porsha vs Kenya. Lauren's disinvite (and Cynthia hold off for weeks unseen). Drew mentioning the private jet. Porsha mentioning Latoya, Kenya, and Drew's wig. Now Drew picking on how the bipolar dynamic. I loved the scene with the Breonna Taylor verdict. That was so real. And I had tears as well as Porsha. There was just so much depth in that scene. And it was perfect for what flow we have gotten with the season so far. KENYA. I love that she apologized somewhat. And realizing that she was not in the right headspace, she let Kandi and Latoya take over the trip. I could see why she would not be upfront with the ladies. Why would she? The majority do not like her. But she should have told Cynthia and Kandi about being stressed. And she deserved every bit of that dragging she got from Kandi. She even tried to move forward after apologizing and have fun. But...alas... KANDI. I saw the Kandi v Kenya and went DRAG HER, KANDI!!!! It needed to be said. And Kandi is good at getting it ALL off her chest. And I don't like a one-sided friendship and I have felt for a while that these two don't have that. Just like she did last season in Greece, she held Kenya accountable. And even at the dinner, she stayed doing that. Because clearly this situation with Brooklyn was just a case of miscommunication and now it's just messy drama. But the looks Kandi was giving all night were telling. CYNTHIA. I laughed at her bagging up food for Mike. And nice she was being a mediator just like Kandi at the dinner. DREW. I see you, girl. I understood what she meant by the weird dynamic. But that's why you stand back and observe a little bit in your first season. So now I am wondering if she is just trying to keep that peach secure by starting subtle mess. As payback for Latoya and Kenya talking about that wig. I do like she was upfront at the dinner with all this so I can't say she is being completely sneaky. Real woman vibes. PORSHA. I really didn't want to see her cry. I continue to love seeing the activist side of Porsha and how she has grown. And how she has been acting since she has been out and about. And it's also nice to see Fun Porsha is still in there as well. I can see how over Kenya's antics she is. However, Porsha has some antics, too. So that dinner went left quick. If I have to pick on Porsha for anything, it's that she is so easy still to be someone else's puppet *cough*Drew*cough* So far...good episode and going into this new round of Kenya vs Porsha, it really is giving me shades of Monique vs Candiace in that going forward, I can see both sides of this and the factors leading up to the drama. Curious to see how I feel once the drama leading to Tanya (bye, hoe) departure starts. PS. SHAMEA AND HER WORKOUT IS A WHOLE MOOD. LOVE. RHOD So...here is some juicy gossip for ya. It would seem that people are giving Brandi the Phaedra side eye right now on her new baby. It would appear that maybe Brandi threw up at the dinner due to her being preggers at that point vs the crickets. And ladies online are counting back from day of birth. And it would seem that when that was filmed she would have already been preggers. And same at Kary's birthday party. So people are wondering if she knew, how she knew, who (side-eye at Stephanie) knew. Because drinking...well... All allegedly. We will see soon in the next few episodes if Brandi says she is pregger on air. He still is kinda fine. Have you seen him shirtless? Yes, I looked. Wow. I REMEMBER THAT TOO!!! SHE WON!!!

Well...here we go...