DramatistDreamer

I agree that Ellen should've been brought back and reigniting their feud might have added more interest, particularly to the history of the show, had it been written well. One thing that I've generally appreciated with ATWT, compared to many other soaps is that the rivalries, particularly between female characters, usually had little to do with a man/romantic paramour, with the exception of Barbara and Margo over Hal. Lisa's feud with Lucinda was particularly engaging because it was about so many things. Yes, there were elements of the fallout between Whit McColl and Martin Guest but that was far from romantic and those two characters were long gone at the best moments of Lucinda and Lisa's feud. And the prospect of two women in their 'older and wiser' years feuding over a man...I dunno, it's just not something I'd look forward to seeing. The one way I see that possibly working is if there are other elements at play and if Eduardo...em, Costner's character was just one of many elements that caused contention between Lisa and Ellen. But I do like the idea of having given the elder set some actual storyline and if it could've drawn in other people who try to avoid taking sides between the two, that could be interesting. It would have surely required more thought by the writers and producer to write something good, and at that point unfortunately, TPTB at the show seemed less inclined to take the time to write good, worthy stories for their actors.

All because no one wanted to discuss the real problem-- austerity measures that had made poverty even more widespread. Speaking of messes, has anyone been following anything about this El Chapo trial? It's wild, man! I don't know how much of these testimonies are true but this puts Narcos to shame.

Looks like Theresa May had a verrry bad day! An understatement, yes, I know.

That tweet about NBC urging their staff to use endless euphemisms instead of just telling truth to power-- that, therein, lies the problem of the entire MSM (corporate owned) and it's killing this country right now. I guess we can all be philosophical about it and say 'well, empires fall...'. Unto everything there is a season. Thank goodness, there are at least some independent journalist and truth in media advocates willing to call these people out for their foolishness and mediocrity.

Perhaps they figured they'd save House Democrats some time because you know the Democrats would eventually take out the trash. Now, if only the state of Iowa would see to reason and do the same.

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Interesting that executives from RCA and Sony claim that dropping a well-known artist from a company/label is not a decision that they take lightly when both have been known to dump well-known and highly regarded artists all the time. My guess is that both are biding their time to see whether outrage diminishes over time, allowing them to go back to "business as usual" or whether there will be a sustained drop in airplay and a decline is sales/downloads. Why It Could Be Hard to Mute R. Kelly

Early Lisa had the benefit of much better writing, imo. Or at least more thoughtful. At some point, Y&R just simply began to write Sharon as HAM.

How I wish there was a Soaps Classics (the one that CBS used to feature during holidays in the late '90s and early '00s) that featured episodes from this era when I started watching as a kid in the '80s. You're all correct, episodes like this one provide so much context for the enmity between Ellen and Lisa. Henderson Forsythe's voice was instantly recognizable to me. How ironic because after '85, David Stewart was often absent from the canvas. I guess that goes to show just how distinctive his voice was. Just hearing them discuss John Eldridge and how there is no doubt that he would've made sure to be an ever-present father to a child, should he and Lisa had one. This must've formed the basis of that Scott Eldridge storyline that happened in the 90s.

Ironically, I was just on IMDb earlier today when I happened on this new streaming service and ended up watching a movie on there. Of course, it had been ages since I used my account so I had to change my password (which I couldn't remember). It's probably a little bit less annoying to watch a TV series/show with commercials than a movie, especially when the ad breaks aren't edited to fall on proper cuts in the action.

Also, this song by folk singer Woody Guthrie that mentions "Old Man Trump" (specifically Fred Trump, Donald's father) and his racist housing code policies.

9 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said: Yeah, I have been hearing stirrings of an "exit strategy" where Trump backs down, the way he's done in the past with threats toward North Korea (which, by the way, has also been a colossal flop). This man to Trump/wall supporters-- "B*tch, I've got your Money!!!"

I can call my relatives who reside in CT and ask them about Joe-- 'I lost the primary, so I'll just change my party affiliation so I can get more Republican votes' --Lieberman what they think. I guarantee their opinion of the man is very low. So yeah, I don't give two sh*ts about Joe Lieberman, who is now working as a foreign agent. The White House hasn't paid its water bill, huh. Why doesn't that surprise me that a man who gladly stiffed vendors and failed to pay his debts regularly would be in arrears with his utility debt?

Which is why I always found that argument about 'what are these women speaking out doing to the careers of these men' to be foolishness. Quite a few have already found a soft place to land, perhaps not as prominent a place as they had before but I have yet to hear one story of a prominent/famous man experiencing real hardship.

Yeah, I have been hearing stirrings of an "exit strategy" where Trump backs down, the way he's done in the past with threats toward North Korea (which, by the way, has also been a colossal flop). This man to Trump/wall supporters-- "B*tch, I've got your Money!!!"

I'm hearing that Andy Murray will retire at Wimbledon this year.

All I can say is someone needs to start drug testing Trump. I skip through most of his quotes because they 1) don't make any sense and 2) tend to change at the drop of a dime anyway. Best of luck to those who want to decipher the madness. Speaking of GOP kooks who spout gibberish.- King hasn't been censured because he is emblematic of the circus-like, carnival barker atmosphere of today's Republican party. King doesn't particularly stand out anymore because he is part and parcel of today's GOP, in lock step with racist, xenophobic ideology. Perhaps now that the Dems are the majority, a censure has a possibility but when there are already so many fires to put out, I imagine the racist in the White House is a bigger concern.

After that Oval office address that lasted a whopping 9 minutes. Boy, he's really putting in overtime.

I guess that Oscar campaign has her (re)thinking things...