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4 hours ago, DRW50 said:
I didn't see that as the best of times as I felt that sites like DC and their agenda in favor of certain regimes held too much sway, but I do miss the We Love Soaps interviews (and if not for them a number of precious GL and ATWT episodes would still be in the vaults).
WLS was an invaluable resource. The interviews and the “On This Day in …” with the accompanying video clips and descriptions placed soaps in a historical and cultural context. Even the WLS YouTube channel was thoughtfully curated, thanks to their upload of ATWT episodes, I got to see The Willows storyline. Not to mention the fact that Roger Newcomb provided his services as a liaison between the SoapClassics people and the P&G people. He really was a true ambassador for the genre and that is sorely missed.
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3 hours ago, Khan said:
He also fathered Harry Connick, Jr., which, in many ways, was an equally egregious act.
Ouch! It is nothing short of miraculous that Connick Jr.’s career was unaffected by the awful decisions of his father’s regime. Today, in the era of social media, Jr. catching a few strays in the hail of denunciations would have been unavoidable.
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12 minutes ago, wonderwoman1951 said:
it’s funny. in the late aughts, when ginia bellafante was one of the ny times television critics, she was deep in the closet about even watching soaps. at that time, she made a lot of disparaging — even insulting — comments about soaps.
can’t remember who the blogger was who called her out. but, over the years she came around.
Unfortunately in the late ‘00s disparaging soaps was low-hanging fruit since so many were plagued by poor writing and production choices but the critical mass of disparaging comments read so much like piling on.
That article did raise an issue that has been in the back of my mind for well over a decade now, the possibility that any shifts were going to alienate viewers at any given time period. Many of us 1970s babies grew up watching the soaps of the 1980s and loving them, but there is a possibility that viewers that were watching from the 1960s and 70s were alienated by the drift away from the characterizations of the everyday in favor for big action and adventure.
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Thanks so much for posting this article @wonderwoman1951.
This quote really stood out to me as one of my constant critiques of many daytime soaps (even my favorites) was that many abandoned the realistic quality in favor of absurdist fantasy.QuoteIt was grounded in a reality — about women’s actual lives — that the genre had otherwise disavowed.
Many other soap fans have argued that they welcomed the fantastical qualities that soaps took on (e.g.a ‘super-couple’ racing to save the world from freezing) as opposed to a more realistic world but I have always contended that this is also the aspect that would come to alienate all but the most ardent fans of daytime soaps. It also gave critics more latitude to criticize and mock soaps and ultimately be dismissive of the genre’s hallmarks.
Well, I just read the part where the GH plot get mentioned.
QuoteThe writers had no interest in condescending to a female audience. This in itself seemed novel, given that by 1981 “General Hospital” had a plot in which a family of rich lunatics was building a weather machine to freeze the planet and take over the world. In the beginning and for a long stretch, “Ryan’s Hope” benefited from network neglect.
This article goes with my initial feeling that the quote was not meant to be a derisive one, just an even-handed one about the realities that go on in a writer’s room, maybe a bit too ‘inside baseball’ for most and I didn’t want to jump to a judgment.
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Hi @JaneAusten. I hope that you are feeling much better these days. Last year was a rough year for me, with the loss of one of my brothers who I was a caregiver for and I am still dealing with the emotional (and a few physical manifestations of that), so I wish you a full recovery of health and hope you will take the time to really care for yourself.
As for the discussion, I think as a society we should be willing to have an open and honest conversation about not only the Israeli-Hamas war but the nature of armed conflict and whether this is the best that we as human beings living in the 21st century can do. I do have reservations, only because these conversations often seem to become focused on emotions. There is also a lot of tangled history, culture, political regional rivalries that all enter and complicate matters but maybe we can try to navigate those issues together.
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It sounds like Harry Connick Sr.’s administration had an egregious prosecutorial record. The highest wrongful convictions rate in the world?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/27/us/politics/harry-connick-sr.html
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6 hours ago, Broderick said:
It couldn't be much more negative.
Truman Capote, in his heyday, was the very "literary" author of Other Voices Other Rooms, Breakfast at Tiffany's, and In Cold Blood. Late in his career, shortly before his death, for reasons no one really understands, he penned a volume of gossipy trash with zero literary value; it concerned the scandals of the Paley family, Gloria Vanderbilt Cooper, and other of his well-heeled Upper East Side friends. When he published a "preview chapter" of his book in Esquire magazine in 1975, he was snubbed forevermore by all of his friends.
The article basically says, "Capote threw away his friends and his career for a piece of garbage that had no more literary value than an As the World Turns plot summary."
On its face, it would appear that way, until you look at the section that qualifies the statement with …
Quotereads like a set of story-meeting notes…
A story meeting is not the same thing as a plot summary. A story-meeting is often a place where the worst (and sometimes best) ideas get pitched, and many tossed out. Having attended a few of these meetings myself, I can honestly say it’s not clear whether this is actually a curve against ATWT.
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32 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
Sasha pretty much said that people who believed his ex were stupid.
He's a scumbag.
Glad Sinner won. He was down two sets when I turned the tv off but DVR the rest. First time in a long time that a player I like won a major.
VPN?
Doesn’t he mean ex-girlfriends? Lest he forget that he’s had more than one woman make an allegation of abuse.
VPN is Virtual Private Network. I use a free one which is good for when I make financial transactions online but it’s limited to the U.S. I need a VPN that will allow me access to Europe.
Here is an explanation of VPNs.
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Admittedly, I saw next to none of the women’s final (I had a feeling that Zheng’s nerves as a first time finalist would be no match for Sabalenka’s power and high level of confidence and focus. I had hoped the final might be competitive but had an underlying doubt that it would actually be.
I saw more of the men’s final and that was a lot more competitive. I missed the first two and a half sets, so I clicked on in time to catch Medvedev, right on schedule, get snagged by his 2 sets lead problem. Still, Sinner did earn that title with some hard fought wins, most of which, admittedly, I didn’t see.On 1/26/2024 at 1:49 PM, Soapsuds said:I loved it! Sasha up two sets again and crumbles.
Two great matches last night and early this morning
Making excuses....he was sick....
Just imagine how he will feel once the court trial comes to the fore. After he got knocked out of the tournament, ESPN finally felt obliged to make a statement detailing the charges.
It took decades but I think ESPN has ultimately ruined tennis for me. I am seriously considering purchasing a VPN so I can watch RG and Wimbledon on their native broadcast networks.
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22 hours ago, DRW50 said:
Fortunately for me, I don’t know anything about this man but those quotes attributed to him are so revolting! This statement of consent is being used as a constant refrain now, so much so, that it strips the statement of all genuine meaning.
And then there are the anonymous trolls in the comments declaring that, unless these women are willing to put their names out there to the public, they shouldn’t be taken seriously…all the while said trolls are declaring this…anonymously.I know we should never judge a “book by its cover” but his statements present an “image” of him that is truly vile.
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On 1/26/2024 at 3:34 AM, asafi said:
What's the reason tptb dropped off the Victor & Christine romance?
Christine probably ended up prosecuting Victor one too many times to summon any romantic magic.
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There is a name drop of As The World Turns in this article but I cannot figure out whether it’s a positive or negative reference.
Truman Capote Cashed In on His Friends’ Secrets. It Cost Him Everything.
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The timing is interesting @BoldRestless. For years, I have been asking why more soap stars haven’t started their own YouTube channel yet. Many athletes have been doing so in the last few years. Patricia Bruder Debrovner (Ellen Lowell Stewart, ATWT) started her own YouTube channel a few years ago and I enjoyed the few episodes she uploaded and wished she would post more).
Since Y&R is still on air, this might be a copyright infringement issue to post entire episodes but there are always clips and other non-soap related content. And for actors from cancelled soaps, I really wish they would start their own YouTube channels and post classic episodes.0 -
^^ Even looking at the camera work, the angles and positioning of the camera in helping to navigate the action shows the vast differences between the show back then versus what it would become several decades later. The differences are stark.
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Getting rid of Hilary Curtis remains one of the most idiotic decisions that Y&R made in the last decade, and that’s saying a whole lot.
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Have many people seen this version of Cinderella? Someone posted this today and it just happened to appear on my timeline and thought it delightful and thought I would share with GH fans who possibly hadn’t seen it before.
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Wrong thread. Sorry. I will move post to the classic thread.
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So much yikes in this article.
https://people.com/amy-robach-tearfully-tells-tj-holmes-have-chosen-love-you-podcast-8547855
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1 hour ago, I Am A Swede said:
That song (and Brown Girl In The Ring) is very misleading in being attached to him in any way, by the way. It’s only just and necessary that DW raised the issue of “looted music”, which is essentially what Farian did with these songs.
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Aww, one of the players I have been enjoying watching lately lost her match while I was sleeping. Itty bitty ‘Pow Pow’ Jasmine Paolini couldn’t power her way past her outsized opponent.
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My dad lives in Florida and was never of the belief that the DeSantis presidential campaign would go anywhere, as my dad believes that “nobody likes DeSantis”. Yes @Veethat tweetchain is entertainment, particularly Wu Tang Is For The Children’s post.
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New York Times, as a local paper that reports on issues affecting the NY Metropolitan area and Tri-state is still effective at that type of reporting but otherwise, they are too busy trying to play both ends against the middle, with the mistaken belief that they can somehow capture subscribers from the Fox News Channel crowd. A losing strategy, as they will discover in due time. In the meantime, they alienate what used to be their core subscribers and potential subscribers with this both sides are equally bad dross. I guess with NYC being a majority immigrant city, that type of “diversity is scary” reporting would never work. Their Metro section is also probably the one section that they don’t rabidly paywall all the time.
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No thanks, that’s a hard pass for me.
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3 hours ago, Vee said:
And it wasn't great either!
It was different, which I guess was enough at the time. Timing is especially important, from what it looks like.
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Y&R: January 2024 Discussion Thread
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I know I am being nitpicky but Sharon used customer and client interchangeably. Is her company a public facing company or are they providing software to companies? The last time I watched, I had the impression that her company provided software to other companies, rather than individual consumers. Just wondering.