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Tony, especially on his way out would not take the blame for Ron or his team. He was quite vocal with how he felt about RC on the way out. I kind of think it speaks to the utter chaos the show was as it transitioned away from Monty to Riche that they don’t have clear memories of being paired. Nobody seemed very happy about Monty’s second run. I have taken his feelings about Bill as his stubborn belief that he knows better than the fans, and if he thinks Bill was successful than it was, no matter what the audience thought. This was a man that back then would have played Luke again without issue but they couldn’t get Genie to play ball a year earlier than when she finally agreed to return, while he was Bill. Who though? Was he that fond of Korte? This is someone that had no issue cutting lines when people like Mulcahey were writing scripts. I doubt he cared all that much for Ron’s pretty generic script writers.

I remember TG saying in an interview that it was a mistake, they both couldn’t remember for sure and went with it.

Good point, I do not see Wayne as Roman in any way a natural fit during the Possession. I think Alan and Monica worked because they were always a volatile couple. From almost the start it was toxic and they seemed to never get enough of each other.

Hard to argue with the impact of this one. I do hate what became of Wayne’s Roman, especially since it took years for John and Marlena to actually be together. One I absolutely hated was Felicia and Luke on GH. What a chore to get through, and just wrong for almost all the characters. Alan and Monica had some of the best! Rick/Leslie/Alan/Monica, Susan Moore, Sean, Lucy, so many greats. And it is a real testament to Stuart Damon that Alan never seemed diminished by his relationship with Lucy.

What I love is that she smiles, she is feisty, she leans into the history of her scene partners even if the show doesn’t write for it, especially noticeable with Anna, Holly, and Mac. KW, while a capable soap actress, should never have been mired in storylines where she was so morose and depressing to watch. She was a character Guza and his team, and JFP just did not get. She’s at her best when she is allowed a sense of fun. It’s like Lucy- LH is capable of everything they can throw at her, but she’s at her most fun when she is involved in something she should not be.

While I enjoy and welcome remotes back on GH, talk about a waste. If I was at GH, a romantic remote like this would feature a couple people are dying to see finally get together- like Spencer and Trina. I appreciate them giving Carly something to do that doesn’t revolve around Sonny in some way. But this pairing isn’t worth the beautiful footage.

I assumed it has more to do with their production model, which must make scheduling a huge priority. And non-contract may have proven to be too difficult to schedule.

Many black performers across all media have stated that there are issues with makeup, hairstyling, and lighting. This is not an attack on the professionals working in these fields- it’s a call to arms for their unions and networks/show runners to ensure their shows and programs are hiring people of color to work on their casts. I cannot count the number of Black women performers I have seen comment that they have to have their wigs styled and or hair done by people they bring in or do it themselves. I agree, the people working in these jobs are hardworking and want people to look their best. But the systems of a lack of diversity exist. Back to Maxie- it’s pretty easy to make this an actual storyline without criticizing her weight. They made Maxie a baby factory, and a tragedy queen. Give her a story where she confronts those things and decides it’s time to get back some of her edge. Plus sized people can and do often look stylish, and there are more options than ever (and as a plus sized person, I know all to well the desire to hide and how hard it is to find stylish stuff). Especially a professional woman like Maxie. They have got to get rid of Austin too.

I’m excited by this casting. Denise Crosby especially!

And that was back in the day when GH had incredibly long scenes. Labine and earlier Guza had long scenes full of dialogue. He went all shouty all the time first, then started the fumbling of all his lines. It reminds me of the later Geary years where he was still ad-libbing but was noticeably struggling to pull it together for his scene partners when he went off script. He used to have a real talent for getting back to where he was supposed to be for his scene partners that didn’t adlib as well, but that was in better days for the show. In his defense, we know Valentini shoots things fast, and sometimes out of sequence. Many actors have complained about this hurting their performance. HBS was very vocal about it on OLTL, that all the block shooting by set was destroying continuity of performance and the ability to do much more than say the lines and hope for the best. Once upon a time it was not everyone was cut out for the rigors of soaps. Now even those that once were fine or even great struggle with the current production models.

They really missed a beat with Esme and Cameron. This whole corner of the show could have been much more entangled if they had allowed some of their chemistry to go somewhere. Imagine the fallout for everyone once it is revealed Esme was behind the video leak, Trina’s framing, slept with Nikolas and was Ryan’s daughter if Cameron was also in love with her. I found her far more entertaining before the Nikolas affair. I do think she is serviceable as Esme and there was potential there. I’m hoping she is not the Hook.

What I can’t remember is if Rhonda had already burst in to Kelly’s and basically revealed Karen’s abuse from Ray yet to Ruby and Brenda (Jason Q didn’t seem to have picked up on it as fast as Ruby and Brenda) or if the stripping reveal was first? One of my favorite scenes by the way- Ruby and Brenda looking at each other and realizing Karen was in real trouble. I loved Brenda’s relationship with Ruby.

Stone and Gina are Jagger’s siblings, who was in love with Karen. Karen turned out to be Scotty’s daughter (the most wasted reveal ever). And they were following Karen who had been acting erratically, having recovered past memories of abuse, which led to her ending up in Sonny’s orbit, dancing and doing drugs.

I think Andrea Evans OLTL return falls under this- it was all camp and very much like her Passions character, as opposed to her version of Tina. Not to say she wasn’t capable of camp as Tina. But she managed to keep her grounded as well during her 80’s run.

Happy to have been here for a long time, and the board before. I really appreciate how little drama there is here now compared to earlier days/versions of this community! Not to say that we haven’t had a few dustups here in the last 20 years!

If anything, Curtis should be more in Laura’s orbit. They have genuine friend chemistry in scenes together, and he could work for the Mayor’s office doing something that keeps him in the mix of the main stories, while also having his family and relationship stories. I am convinced that they actually have at least 6 months outlined, and just when things get going Frank or someone above him derails them. It’s happened repeatedly in the last couple of years., especially in the spring! There are so many dropped threads and starts and stops to almost every story except the ones involving Sonny (minus the changes brought about by SB being let go). I bet Trina/Spencer, Esme, and Liz have all been derailed due to Frank’s classic springtime interference. We will spend money finding primetime parents for Chase and Finn, but not casting anyone to play Jeff (or Lucky) to actually explore anything truly about Liz.

I think part of what happened was Frons felt GH was strong enough with JFP and Guza. But look at AMC and OLTL- I think they assumed it was nearing the end within the decade and he left all those EP’s in place even when he burned through HW on AMC. Although I do think he fired Guza and then was fired himself.

Riche herself has said she should have left sooner. Two shows was too much, and the main show had been troubled for a bit before she left. She and Guza were allegedly not getting along, the show was very dark (nothing like it would be later though), and the interim HW team wasn’t exciting ABC. It just should have been someone else besides JFP. I truly do not know who at that point I would have given the show to. I do think Ed Scott would have been a better fit at GH than DAYS, but I also have a hard time imagining him there.

I think there was a lot of good material from the time Vanessa returned through a few years too. The contagion sweeps event, Metro Court, Scrubs and the refocus on the hospital, Laura waking up from her coma, the younger set of characters. A lot of good stuff happened then. What I remember is by the end of the Text Message Killer storyline I pretty much gave up on the show again. When I did want to watch, like when JJ was back as Lucky, or for Brenda’s return, the entire show was so dark and dreary and Sonny centric that I didn’t find much to enjoy. I had a lot of fun when Frank and Ron first arrived, until Robin’s return story finished. Killing off AJ again, the fluke mess, Stafford being cast…yeah it was a mess.

I kind of agree that the last time I truly enjoyed every aspect of the show was 1996. When Guza came back the writing improved dramatically, and there were many great storylines and time periods after 96. But that was the last time I enjoyed every story, every pairing, and was really excited to watch the show.

Clink/Boom always read to me as pure Guza. It was cool to see MVJ’s comments. That he had the ending in mind and now they all had to help get there. A credit to that writing team that it was a true twist, and a lot of character development happened to lead us there, and it also seemed like a natural outcome. I recently rewatched Guza’s first year (well he almost made it a year before Sunset Beach pulled him away), and so much happens all around, not just with Sonny/Brenda. I mean look at Laura- in like 7 months she and Luke went through a murder trial (Damian Smith), Lulu’s illness, the Nikolas reveal and return of the Cassadines.

Clink/Boom anniversary was this week too. Great insight posted by MVJ.

Andrea Evans is just so much fun to watch as Tina.

Another incredible anniversary! This was such a fantastic episode.

I know this lured me back after the horrible way Genie Francis was written out and several other terrible story directions when Pratt/Guza arrived. Everything was kind of a mess until VM’s return.