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Ava is suffering from unintended consequences. That doesn’t mean that Natalia isn’t also facing consequences. I actually like that Ava reading the comments made her both feel for Blaze and also selfishly rush to ensure her own protection. Also- go to any famous LGBTQIA person’s comments. It’s filled with attacks from bots, from Christian conservatives, and often from our own LGBTQ people being misguided keyboard activists. I think there would be calls for Kristina to resign. The problem with the center is that it wasn’t established yet so any stakes there are moot.

I think that aspect is very plausible, especially because she was doing it for her career instead of out of a need for safety. An argument could easily be made that Kristina’s advocacy is performative, and this proves it.

This has been a fascinating, and heartbreaking time to watch the show. What I am left with as Mulcahey’s credited days are numbered is a lot of questions, and a show that is largely full of stories that are not working, but are at least filled with actual human emotions. We all knew where this Kristina surrogacy story was headed from day one. It’s been filled with one cliche after another. But it has also allowed for real emotion to play out. Mansi and NLG made those scenes yesterday count, in a story I wish had never happened. The show needed a long term villain- their Roger Thorpe if you will. Moving Ava into that role has been good for her and the show, even if the BTS machinations haven’t allowed any of her scheming to become clear. Having the revelations come out while trying to sign those contracts that Natalia has been so awful about is good soap. The show has zero stories going on that I love. But I can still watch it because at least the characters have something to do and emote besides regurgitating the plot. Maybe if Valentini’s starts and stops were not happening and hindering all of these stories, they might have been better? Whatever the next phase is, they desperately need an umbrella story that they let run every week for at least 3 months. No one month this set of characters dominates, then disappears again. And they are wasting time and resources not using Trina as a young lead, and her mother should be in story too.

I like Gio, he’s kind of just there but at least they are not trying to make him angst ridden when it doesn’t suit him. But there have been a couple of times when he is just smiling away that I expect him to flash a package of Mentos, the fresh maker!

I appreciate how well done the scenes with Finn and Violet were with him saying goodbye. Everyone did well in those scenes. My only issue is once again, even though it has been sped up, we have seen every step in a Finn story. It’s the only set of stories being told with any care, from the wedding, Gregory’s death, though Finn leaving for rehab. Everything else is plagued with starts and stops, and details just dropped in exposition instead of showing the other stories. One thing I have hated during the last few years is that if a story isn’t working for Frank, they just ignore it. I fear the last few months with Sonny are headed there. The town pariah, Molly carrying around poor old Cyrus’ statement declaration, his meds, whatever was happening with Ava…that is a lot of plot to just disappear.

I also think fans believe their corner of the internet translates to more of the fandom than it does. There is a huge difference between Jackie Zeman saying people were throwing tomatoes at her in the grocery store when Bobbie was mean, and posting how annoying Carly is. What happened to people like her and Fulton was visceral. Zeman could laugh about it, Fulton seemed less amused. Many of us have bitched about Sonny for decades. Decades! But the truth is he is popular with the greater audience. I have seen posters here and on other sites complain about Luke and Laura for a long time. People post things like they weren’t an actual cultural phenomenon. Feelings are not facts. Everywhere I turn online where people talk about soaps there are fans that think GH should rehire Roger Howarth and hope Finn is back soon. I have never wanted anything less than either of those. To me, they are symptoms of the problem, not a solution. And yet they have plenty of fans clamoring for them to return. Based on things I have seen them comment on, LW and Burton are aware that enough of the audience would like more balance. So they have some idea.

They had more heat!

I would be fine with just this.

Oh no doubt. I was referring to the culmination in 2013, when she interrupted the wedding. The rest was a waste of everybody. Although Robin and Patrick were still able to move the needle IIRC even after the 2013 climax. And I don’t credit that all to KMc, just the story that was centered on her. It made us wait for the reunion with her and her family. Anna and Robert’s reactions were as important to the audience as Patrick and Emma. Patrick, another male character Frank did not get or invest in. Didn’t he have an alcoholism/addiction storyline that played out mostly off camera. Am I remembering that correctly? Tell an actual story with stakes and the fans of this show do check in to see what’s up. If the show is halfway decent, they stay for awhile. I did.

That was also the prevailing attitude in 2012. And by the 50th and beyond, the show had its best ratings since the mid 2000’s. What made those numbers move (and spike a couple of times), was the reintroduction and investment of generations of General Hospital characters, being the actual focal points in the stories. The other aspect was Kimberly McCullough having a limited schedule, which forced them to drag out the Robin is alive storyline, and the culmination of that was a ratings winner. The show hasn’t really been dominated by General Hospital actors driving their stories for at least the last 4 years. Fan favorites have been on contract and barely used compared to folks like Nina, Franco, Finn, even Drew, etc. And the lesson needs to be learned that Carly is not a character that brings them viewers, she can’t be the only game in town. I would argue that if they were telling a compelling mystery, had a couple actively falling in love with rooting value, and the stories were directly about the popular players they have on contract, we would be back over 2 million viewers pretty quickly.

Offer VM that Geary deal, he worked 6 months out of the year, it was only really visible onscreen during the summers due to pre-taping. The whole point of an ensemble is that characters should rotate in stories!

Did I hear Steve Burton say “new head writers” and then follow that up with Korte is still there and knows Lucky. Does that mean new writers are in place? I mean he could have misspoke, but it was an interesting way of describing head writers and Korte separate from that.

They had no issue recasting Nikolas, or Jason for that matter. I think Geary leaving and FV/ABC not valuing Genie had more to do with no Lucky than just waiting for JJ. They used Liz to prop up his friends (twice), and had no issue dropping Francis until it bit them in the butt. That just says to me they thought that branch of Spencer characters was expendable. Maybe that’s too cynical but that’s where I am. Maurice had a hand in DZ returning, and he’s barely been used compared to the other men in his age range.

Exactly where I stand too. Not to mention he isn’t some rando like Jagger or Jackie Templeton- JJ’s Lucky walks in the door with story to play on the show in 2024, and connections everywhere on the show right now. I have no expectations that his return drives a huge ratings bump. But consistent story with characters being used that have been neglected for a decade might bring us easily back over 2 million a week. It’s been over a decade of many GH characters languishing in supporting roles or in stories they should not be in while the likes of Nina, Nathan, Peter, Finn, Franco, Hayden, Kim Nero, Julia etc were brought in and placed in the center of stories with actual GH characters supporting them. I am ready for this change.

The last 12 months-ish have proven to me that Valentini does not wield the total control at GH that had been afforded to him before. I have no idea who the ABC brass is that has gotten involved, but it’s pretty clear. Because Frank would have written out others to keep the budget good rather than choosing all on his own to get rid or Roger or Michael. He did it before with Genie (which backfired spectacularly). I could easily have seen DZ and most of the Black folks being offered recurring before either of those two were fired. Then PM lured out of retirement (which FV clearly had a hand in botching), and now JJ back? He’s under someone’s thumb at ABC. Nina and Maxie have had the most improvement by far. I have grown to like Nina, and that’s all CW and Mulcahey. Has any ABC actor logged as many hours as ME in the 2000’s? He was heavy on PC, felt like the only man used on OLTL, and all his wasted frontburner time on GH.

Especially with characters that are, at this point, expendable. That’s not just Guza though, that’s just good soap writing. If we could have an accident that made Violet mute, and hit another one of the kids giving them temporary paralysis, we would be on to something, maybe Rocco (who I liked and we haven’t seen enough of). One story creating more story. Is his abrupt exit a death?

I am not cheering anyone who seems like a nice person losing their job. However, this is a long overdue course correction. Once they lost the original OLTL characters due to PP, they should have stopped, or negotiated with PP, or just waited to see what happened. Who knows if any of those characters would have been successful if cast with different performers. Instead we had a decade + of them trying to make it work. It never worked, and the further away from GH Frank got the more the ratings eroded. I feel like a long national nightmare has finally come to a close.

Welcome back impulsive Carly! She could have gone to Diane first. But that’s not Carly is it?

I even sat through every day of her being terrorized by origami. And then later when she had that breakdown story- those lights at the photo shoot didn’t know what hit them. Put her on those stages with her long sleeves with thumb holes and I will watch.

I am thrilled. Cannot wait to see him in scenes with Genie again.

For the folks saying FV is in desperation mode? He might be in nervous mode. But desperation mode is the announcement that Vanessa Marcil is back as Brenda and on contract.

He loved and respected Tony Geary immensely, and Tony is most likely bisexual or prefers no label. He did marry his longtime male companion after he retired, they had been together since his 90’a return. He was also on Nashville, which had LGBTQ stories and he didn’t make negative statements or quit the show about that. He is super Jesus though so time will tell. And even that was mired in misery, they killed her off tragically IIRC. There really could be a deep psychological study of what GH became after Guza returned from mourning his child’s death. JFP’s instincts are also misery is best, and it really spiraled into nothing but misery from the time Michael went to jail until they were both fired. Not accurate. FV kissed his ass plenty- the idea of getting to play a rotten bastard, which became Fluke, was from FV asking Tony what would excite him, what had he not done in a long time or ever before on the show. And Geary has never given Valentini anything but respect. Carlivati however…

So relieved it’s JJ. The show needs more Spencer family for Laura.

I cannot wait for Genie and JJ to share scenes together again, without it being all about Luke and Lucky. They had their own special relationship before the Nikolas/rape reveals, and his other returns were dominated by Geary. I was wondering if it was him when Frank teased it, then it came out the return was more like late summer/early fall. It takes time to relocate your family that is if they were still living abroad. I saw Deadline posted it, I assume they had the exclusive?

Wasn’t it CVE’s story? I doubt they would cut it considering the older writing regime and FV liked using Mills. When has FV demonstrated he has any idea what the audience wants to see and is willing to change course?