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Thanks for the extra detail, and for the episode. I'd never seen that one before. It was interesting to hear mention of some of the characters who sort of drifted into the early '60s but were probably on their way out, like Marie Grant. Did you ever see any of the other Robins? I wonder if Ellen Weston was any better as an actress than she was as a writer.

Marcia and Gabe would later reveal that they eventually realized Komack had pitted them against each other. They met up again 15 years post-show as their kids went to school together, and they became friendly until her death. It's unfortunate, because the chemistry between them was the best thing about the show.

I'm glad Randolph is well enough to appear.

And they both have nukes...and North Korea is acting up again, and our President is a lunatic... Why was this the year I decided to watch Threads.

Best of luck to her but she has consistently bored the hell out of me for 10-15 years now. Not that this has anything to do with the above, but I saw that Lisa Rinna "liked" some Louis Farrakhan video, along with many other celebrities. Bleh...

No problem. I decided to summarize Soapcentral as the site is hard to navigate and in case it ever goes under... Yeah her ending seems incomplete to me - I guess that's how life sometimes is, but it still bugs me. I wonder how viewers at the time felt, as I imagine Robin was a popular character (I'm not sure Gillian Spencer ever played an unpopular character on a soap).

Robin grew up mostly away from her mother, Kathy, who had wanted to keep her away so she wouldn't know about her messy parentage (Kathy had been in love with Dick Grant but Robin was conceived in Kathy's loveless marriage to Bob Lang - some of these episodes are available on Youtube). Meta, who had had a ton of problems with young stepdaughter Kathy back in the day, was a big influence on Robin, not realizing how desperately insecure and conniving Robin was becoming. Kathy and Robin had a lot of conflicts, not helped by Robin hating Kathy's husband Mark (she instead saw Paul Fletcher as a father figure) and his kid sister Alice (she first became close to Mike to make Alice jealous) but had made up by the time a paralyzed Kathy was accidentally pushed into oncoming traffic. Robin wanted Meta and Mark to marry, but Mark fell in love with his housekeeper, Ruth. Robin and Meta tried and tried, with Robin even catching pneumonia to try to make it happen. Finally Bert, Paul and Mark told Meta to get over herself and act like a grown woman, which she did, leading her to marry Bruce to get away from her feelings for Mark. Mark and Ruth eloped, and when Robin learned of this, so she got upset she faked her own kidnapping. She then became close to Ruth's newly arrived son, Karl, wanting to eventually dump him in order to hurt Ruth. Karl and Mike were friends realized what she was doing, and told Bert and Bill, but he was beginning to fall for Robin. Karl was a control freak and Robin felt she had little choice but to marry him, but she began to get sick from nerves and regret. Finally she dumped him and eloped with Mike. Karl attacked Mike, hit his head, and died. Mike was charged with manslaughter, but cleared. He was also guilt-ridden for his friend's demise, frustrating Robin, who became charmed by yet another father figure in artist Alex Bowden. Alex and Robin became closer and closer, and Bert, desperate to get Robin away from her son, encouraged the attraction. She later began to feel guilty, but it was too late, and Robin annulled her marriage to Mike in order to marry Alex. Unfortunately, Alex was resentful of Robin's connections to Springfield and how little he mattered in her life compared to them, and the age difference settled in. Her brattiness was no longer charming now that she was his wife. Mike returned to Springfield, and Robin began to play games with him due to her loveless marriage to Alex. He began to be drawn to his alcoholic ex-wife, Doris. Doris convinced him to give some money to Paul Fletcher's clinic - Paul's wife Anne was angry over this, and manipulated Robin into thinking Doris and Alex had something going on. Anne and Robin berated Doris so badly that she fell off the wagon. She stole Anne's gun and went to Paul's clinic, threatening suicide. In a struggle with Paul, the gun went off, shooting and soon killing Anne. Divorced from Alex, Robin's daddy issues led her to become engaged to longtime father figure Paul, but her own teenage tantrums came full circle with Paul's son Johnny. Paul's sister Jane and Anne's father began manipulating Johnny into opposing the relationship (Anne's mother supported the relationship). This scheming ended their engagement, but Jane became too clever and accidentally pushed Paul and Robin into a secret marriage. They managed to hide their relationship for a while, but when his desk clerk told Jane that Paul was with Mrs. Fletcher, Jane spitefully told Johnny that Daddy had lied to them. Johnny ran away to the zoo, cutting off Paul, Robin, and Jane. He went to stay with his grandparents until his grandmother died, forcing him to return home. The tension came to a full boil when a pregnant Robin lost her baby while cleaning Johnny's room. She refused to forgive Johnny, lashing out at him and finally angering Paul, who took his son's side. Robin by this time was played by Gillian Spencer - she's the Robin who has the most episodes up on Youtube as a ton of her tensions with Johnny and Johnny's early relationship with Peggy is available in summer 1966 uploads. Paul's old friend Sara McIntire arrived around this point. Robin was convinced they were or would become lovers. Combined with her grief over her miscarriage, and her general insecurities, she chose to throw herself in front of a truck, completing the same cycle that had taken her mother. (I have to assume Irna was involved in this ending as it's so fucked up and so focused on struggling to break lifelong psychological patterns - it is right up her alley)

Is this a reworked version of one of Cobert's tunes about 7 minutes into this? I've been watching some of the first episodes again with my parents, and even with the flaws of the early material (David being so irritating, Burke not being charismatic enough to warrant all the focus or to justify Carolyn not wanting to be with her drop dead gorgeous boyfriend, Carolyn being so irritating), I prefer this period to when Barnabas takes over and the show's atmosphere ends up being dismantled for his benefit. Does anyone know why the first Sam Evans was replaced? I found David Ford likeable (even if he never seemed to do well with his lines), but this Sam makes a lot of sense for the character's background.

This is just reprehensible. A police union accused Shake Shack of poisoning three NYPD officers. Only hours later, after the chain had been dragged through the mud and repeatedly threatened on social media, did another statement come out saying the illness was not deliberately caused. This is the third or fourth time (if you count the mysterious glass pizza incident) in recent months that the media and the police have hyped these moments which either disappear or are proven to be false.

He's another true believer who refused to wear face masks. I hate these people.

A protest in New Mexico today that culminated in a militia showing up and some guy who was with them shooting a man during a skirmish. Just an awful mess. I'm not sure where this is going to end... (graphic footage)

I keep hoping more full episodes from the Janice period will show up someday. Many at present are the episodes and clips Eddie Drueding has shared with people over the years.

I keep seeing people in there spreading the nonsense lie that BLM donations all go to the DNC. Why do so many people easily believe conspiracy theories? Anyway, biker groups and hate groups went into Bethel, Ohio yesterday and attacked BLM protesters, with the police doing nothing. I didn't want to post the tweets as they are probably hard to watch but here's the article. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/06/15/bethel-black-lives-matter-groups-clash-demonstration/3188746001/

The "conservative intellectuals" are seething because they love to pretend they have a high brain reason for being bigots. A ruling like this blows that out of the water. It humiliates them. They are now resorting to just blathering about how it's a sign of elitism, when it's actually broad public support, which they will never, ever admit to themselves. These deep thinkers like Dreher or Shapiro destroyed their reputations for Trump and they got their biggest fear (they both fear and loathe lgbt people) thrown right in their smug faces. I love it.

That's interesting. I would have had the same thought too (about abortion being most important to them). I hope it does demoralize them, even if they will have their share of wins - this was, or should have been, one of their biggest, after all the decades they've spent getting to this point. With Anthony Kennedy, these groups would always blame his clerks and claim they had somehow corrupted him. So I guess we may get more of that type of paranoia popping up again.

I think SMG also had some issues with the show's stunt coordinator. And there were rumors of her falling out with Alyson Hannigan at the time. Buffy for me just wasn't good after season 3, aside from the odd episode, and the concept did not really warrant such a long run. SMG seemed to age out of the role, especially after she had brief film success. She lost all her spark (along with a noticeable amount of weight) - seeing such a brittle presence still having to spit out the same old "clever" Joss Whedon one-liners (that he has been regurgitating for 30 years now) was incredibly sad to watch. I think the ugly and unnecessary Spike/Buffy story also ruined SMG's friendship with James Marsters, from what he's said.

Holy [!@#$%^&*]. I figured at best that would be a 5-4 with Roberts narrowly ruling for certain protections to try to keep things from going too far in one direction. I know some people are choking right now as they invested so much time and $$$$$$$ in these elections and in getting far right activists onto the benches. All I can humbly say to them is - eat [!@#$%^&*] and choke on it, you ugly, worthless hatemongers. The BEST part of this is that Neal Gorsuch, who wrote the opinion, was a Trump pick! Anti-lgbt hate groups spent so much time and money and this is what they got for it!

Never have watched much of that show. An interesting cast...Mitchell Ryan is one of those guys who looked better as he aged.

She was a BLM activist who was sexually abused and has since been murdered. Heartbreaking.

You're right - France. Sorry.

Reading about the big hate rally on the way to Tulsa is terrifying. @Khan I don't know if you're around there but I hope you and your family will be safe.

[!@#$%^&*] morons.

When she went away to Italy and connected with Jamie.