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I loved the first 3 or 4 seasons of Sisters. Unfortunately, the show just became so unremittingly dark after that point and chose to completely destroy the marriage and family life of John and Georgie that was the core of the show. My last straw was the false memory sexual abuse storyline that seemed to be done in part so that Patricia Kalember could work with her real life husband. I only returned to watch the finale, which wasn't exactly fantastic, but did manage to close the show on a decent note.

Thanks so much as always @slick jones . Never knew Kathleen Cullen would have been in a TV movie with Mark Hamill. A shame it never happened.

Thanks! Nice to see this episode back up again. So many blur together but I couldn't forget how Roya Megnot rocks the Ava looks here, especially the necklace. I wish someone could have asked her while she was still with us if there were any differences in playing Ava at this time compared to her first run. I enjoy the novelty of Roya returning just to have a makeout scene with a recast Alex. I actually like this look on Trisha, even if it screams ABC or Noelle Beck saying they want a Julia Roberts. I like the change from her many years of straight hair and more generic outfits. This Rick is so overly mannered, and for some reason reminds me of Todd McKee. I wonder if they still weren't intending to kill Rick at this time given that he has regular family scenes alongside the drama with Stacey and Jack. That was a real therapist with Jack and Stacey, wasn't it? Elizabeth Savage's Gwyn is somewhat similar to Christine Tudor in look and delivery, but much closer to the brassy broad of old Hollywood, rather than the darkness and brokenness inherent in Tudor's portrayal. Still, I enjoy watching her, and Ilene Kristen.

Hopefully if she wins some of the Sun Belt states that can help. Vance being dumped in PA must mean it's super close.

Thanks for the extra details. Your ideas of what should have happened with Patti make sense. Maybe even have conflict with Jo if Patti's kids are closer to Jo than they are to Patti. I do wonder if they should have just written Liz out when Sherry left, based on what they did with her.

That's a great idea. And now your idea has even more grounding as Alexis mentioned losing her sister in a recent episode. I've always had a soft spot for Kelly as Sam, as I did in her often-terrible role on PC - she is a quietly charismatic and at times strong performer who never felt cookie cutter. With that said, she has never actually been a strong character. She was thrown pairings, thrown family members, but the character never had a core. I think the only reason she lasted the last 5-10 years was down to longevity and the old fans of the character. There are other longtime cast members I would have gotten rid of over her, but she has been so checked out for years that it doesn't surprise me. I wonder if Valentini had to choose between her and Becky Herbst as it wasn't long ago Liz seemed to be on the chopping block.

Thanks!

And then giving her a daughter who was killed off before her arrival (was there ever much mention of that?). Thanks. I always get confused about just when Larkin left GL.

He would be smart to kill the debate - the media and rigged voting boards are already there to push him over the line, so no real need to rock the boat. Biden never should have agreed to a debate either.

Thanks for all this hard work @slick jones I had forgotten Hollywood Heights existed. Gloria Stuart was a stunning beauty in those Hollywood years.

I thought she was alright in the '60s material I've seen on Youtube but I get the impression Adams' return was not well-received. Rodell seemed well-received in her various soap roles.

Thanks. I didn't realize Larkin and Adam were there. Not sure why they even killed off Ryder. I guess Larkin was done with GL by this point. I do wonder how fans at the end even felt about Patti, especially her just coming in and taking stories of established characters. Patti hadn't been important to the show for a decade or more.

The pilot episode of what would eventually be the CW's Hidden Palms.

Thanks. Funny how that commercial - the umpteenth parody of soap that by this time was many many years out of date (and was never that accurate) lets Schutlz give more life than ATWT ever did.

I liked the material they gave Val - helping someone learn how to read, and just smaller-scale stories similar to her earlier seasons.

Which couple?

I agree they may not have felt like established Bauers, especially Trudy, but I think bringing one or both in could have eventually established some balance, and Meta had such a rich past while Trudy was a blank canvas. A foster care story given to one of them instead of India with Dorie might have made sense and provided a young female voice to the Bauers they wouldn't have again until Michelle, by which point they were fully depleted. The show wouldn't have been in a place where Maureen was relied on as a matriarch when she wasn't even 40 years old.

Thank you. That was very moving. The family wasn't the same without Eric, even if only appeared occasionally in those last years.

Bringing back Morgan/Jennifer/Amanda sometime in the late '80s or early '90s might have been interesting too. Perhaps a much more forceful Morgan, returning with Josh's child. Jennifer possibly with a terminal illness, falling in love with the wrong man one last time (maybe Daniel St. John). Amanda might end up torn between Ross and Roger.

I think there was a place for Sara and a proper recast of Tim, maybe with a wife and child. And Adam too, I suppose - Sara and Adam as frequent recurring figures, possibly, especially once Roger and Holly came back.

I hadn't heard that. GL certainly had more absurd retcons involving the Bauers. And it might have brought some drama when Danny and Cassie were almost paired.

Cornel West is going around claiming Kamala Harris offered him a position to drop out, which he nobly refused to do. Such bullshit, but a reminder of how tied the GOP operatives who support RFK are to him (and Stein) too.

There might have been a few - as others have said, I think there was an opening to bring back Meta much earlier, or Trudy, and I also think Justin (Tom O'Rourke) or Elizabeth or Peggy and her son should have been brought back - but I think there was a certain spirit to GL which was unique to it and so many who ran the show in those years didn't understand. ATWT had a stillness while GL had a certain rawness. Yet for much of 84-87 or so they just try to be as slick as possible.

I think he was right, in that I don't believe the path to improving ATWT would have worked for GL, but the problem is he was not a good writer or a good fit for the show either.