All My Shadows

I believe Texas and The Catlins aired together in an hourlong block. Texas was either split into 30-minute episodes or edited.

I stopped caring about the Emmys a long time ago (starting to sound like you, Carl :lol:), but I'm still upset that neither Justina nor Rita were nominated. They're putting in the type of performances that the Emmys awarded year after year in the 70s, that great comedy that is flavored with a subtle somberness. I always say it's classic Lear, but it just is! I don't even have enough interest to see who were nominated instead.

I agree, Donald is one of the most appealing characters in TBITB but he never did do much, unfortunately. Frederick Combs, though I crushed on him for years after watching the movie.

I love how he was the only one without a live action shot in the original opening. It was like they were saying "Yeah, we don't know what he's doing here easy, and we can't make him look sexy, so here ya go."

I hate it when TV people think they know soaps when they clearly have not spent enough time watching them to truly know. It reminds me of when we learned about radio soaps in my high school history class and my teacher, whom I love and was a big inspiration, claimed that ATWT was the very first soap and had been on radio, along with GL and Y&R. I, of course, objected to this in the most dramatic way, and everyone laughed, so I piped down. My teacher smugly said that he knew what he was talking about because he was older than me and VERY snidely asked if I’d ever heard of The Edge of Night, assuming I hadn’t. I was literally already spending half of my life on this very message board, bruh, back tf off!

REALLY? I always assumed that Dynasty had opened the floodgates for all soaps, daytime and primetime, in the early 80s.

It really doesn't, and I love it. It's one of those opening sequences that immediately set a tone and makes you want to watch. Any time I come across it, I check YouTube to see if the whole series is still there so that I can plan to watch one day.

I've never gotten around to watching Freaks and Geeks. I've always been turned off by what I perceived as an "us vs. them" narrative but that's just a surface-level judgment. I'll probably give it a shot soon.

I always envisioned a teen soap airing multiple times a week at night on cable, around the time when the networks are airing their nightly newscasts. Tons of characters but never too many all at once, sorta how the British soaps are modeled in way where there are a lot of characters officially in the cast, but they move pretty regularly from the backburner to the frontburner. For a few weeks, you might have stories running focused on the cheer squad, the stoner kids, and a group of kids who work together at a supermarket, but then later, you'd have a major story focused on the basketball jocks and their girlfriends, then the band kids, etc. Some stories would last a long time, others would be short, some would be comic relief, others would be really deep, human issues. Degrassi did this well, but there were things that could be improved upon, IMO. The main thing is that a teen soap worth some investment would have got to get over the obsession with cartoony stereotypes and cliques. High school kids are more alike than they are different, and that would have to be the central theme of the show. That head cheerleader is no more confident or "powerful" than the quiet girl in the corner who cuts herself.

Wasn't the big cliffhanger for that story something about how it was a matter of fact for Lisa and the audience that she was pregnant and going through with the abortion was a huge deal for a soap like ATWT at that time period and then, right at the end of the episode, when the doctor goes in to perform the procedure, he announces that there is no baby, fade to black, cue Charles Paul on the organ.

I think Katie’s rabbit was named Snickers.

Here's a very short clip from this soap. I've read about it being one of the first to shoot outside of the studio, but this seems to be done in front of a green screen.

I wouldn’t count Helen Wagner out. I would imagine she was seen at least three or four times a week in the B/W years and only slightly less through the 70s. Jon Hensley and Liz Hubbard might rank higher than Scott Holmes.

There is a big difference between a character having a bigger presence than one should have and having an episode be "all about" that character. IIRC, the biggest faux pas about it was that the episode closed on a Katie/Nancy flashback and then a shot of Katie by herself. Most of the episode was about all of the characters remembering Nancy. ETA: I just glanced through the episode and she was on for 5-10 minutes, almost all of it shared with Chris, and a good bit of it as ensemble scenes with the Hughes family. Whether that's too much or not too much is a matter of personal opinion, but that one episode doesn't change the stats on the bigger picture.

I've seen this same sentiment from a lot of people, too, and I still say it's nonsense because I am looking at quantitative facts that state that Maura West and Michael Park dominated airtime for 13 years. They were literally in the majority of thirteen years' worth of episodes. Over 3,400 episodes, and they were in most of them. But the show revolved around Katie. Got it. There's nothing wrong with just saying "I hated Katie, and she was on too much."

There's a section here for Episode Counts if you scroll all the way down on the main forum page. Here are the counts for the last month and year the show was on the air, plus a complete count for 1997-2010. I'm sorry, but this is just nonsense. Jack and Carly appeared in more than half of all episodes over thirteen years. They're the only two. If you picked a random episode from that time period, the odds are high that you will see one or both of them. If the show revolved around any character(s), it's them, but I think people fail to realize that ATWT was a more balanced show than most of its contemporaries in it last few years on the air. To say that certain characters had a larger presence than they should have is an understatement, but to say that certain characters were at the center of the show when the statistics prove otherwise is just negligent. The numbers do not lie, and anyone watching every day back then knows that you saw Jack and Carly way more frequently than you saw Katie.

I've posted on this board with you and PJ for at least 10 years lol I already know what both of you have to say. We watched the same show, so it's safe to say we have a difference in opinion on a lot of what went down. Here's how Teri/Katie ranked in the episode counts the last few years: 2006: #10 (141 of 251 episodes) 2007: #2 (153 of 251 episodes) 2008: #7 (117 of 253 episodes) 2009: #12 (88 of 252 episodes) 2010: #6 (72 of 183 episodes) I would hardly the say the show totally revolved around her when there were other performers who were in the top 5 for all of those years (including 2 consecutive years at #1...).

I will never understand the over-inflated hatred towards Teri Conn and the character of Katie. There's disliking and hating a character, which is normal, then there's the attribution of everything wrong with the show for last 10 years to one character when there were tons of characters who, IMO, were more destructive than she was. Roger Howarth's mopey, depressing ass Paul moping around Oakdale for years did nothing to help. Character aside, TC always spoke respectfully and reverently of the show and its veteran cast members. I'm finding it hard to see why she merits so much vitriol.

Why is it seemingly impossible to find that great photograph of her and other mid-70s GL actresses anymore? Maureen Silliman, Fran Myers, Lynne Adams, and Caroline McWilliams were also in it.

No, I'm pretty sure she appeared several months before the show ended. I want to say the Bob/Kim-focused episodes were in April 2010. Helen Wagner was still alive and appeared in them.

Nice! I wonder if there are any Where the Heart Is promos from this period; I was almost hoping to at least see a title card here, but I guess it and Love of Life were left out on account of being morning soaps. It’s a man interesting comparison between this one and the 1968 schedule change promo.

This right here. I did not like Vienna most of the time she was on the show, and I often wondered how/why she was around for so long, but she deserved better than the miserable shrew into which they'd turned her for the sake of the Barbara/Henry love train. There was this underlying feeling of Vienna just had to fail because Barbara "deserved" this that I strongly disliked. I thought the dancing was silly and, of course, Henry unbelievable as a romantic lead. CZ liking it doesn't surprise me. I find that there are a good bit of soap stars who enjoy stories/pairings solely because they enjoyed playing them, not because the story was good or made sense, and that's fine.

And that bugs the hell out of me because why accept it and hold on to it in the first place? Regardless of content, the fact that it's some of the very last footage of that era should be enough for them to properly take care of it.

Yeah, they have basically every daytime program that aired on select dates in 1971 and 1973. So, not only all of the soaps of those years (including Where the Heart Is and Return to Peyton Place, of which no video episodes have ever surfaced online as far as I know) but also several game shows that have been mostly wiped out, including one of my favorites, ABC’s Split Second. I wonder if they know how extremely rare these episodes are. I would hope that if they did, they’d spend more time working on getting them presentable.