Chris B

I think the RHOA ratings are find. I found it a very strong premiere and they know it’s a transitional season which is probably why promotion wasn’t heavy. It’ll build as the season and drama starts. Kandi said there is tons of stuff that was left out of the trailer. We know Tanya, Marlo and Shamari are central to lots of the drama but we have hardly seen anything from them. Im going to say so far so good for ATL.

I think this will be a fun but more lighthearted season. I thought it was a solid premiere and next week looks really good! I like the ATL girls when they're more on the fun side with light shade. I'm going to wait until Shamari and later Tanya joined to truly make a decision. I'll give them 5-6 episodes before I decide.

I’m loving that Kenya have birth on the night of the season premiere! Nene is on WWHL and u know she gonna hate the spotlight being on Kenya lol!

Ooooh makes sense with Althea! Thanks @jam6242

If true, why is CNN so far in last place? Rachel Maddow has one of the highest rated cable news programs and starts with a twenty minute monologue without commercials which usually recounts a historical story that ties into the present. She has no Republican or Democrat commentators either, only experts to the subject at hand. She doesn’t cover tweets or rallies. If she can do so well without that then anyone can. CNN has so much good talent but watching their shows is damn near impossible because it’s the same each hour with Democrat and Republican commentators screaming at each other. I found it fun at a time but it’s so tiresome. I also don’t understand constantly having certain Republican commentators on when they lie repeatedly. The media in general is afraid of seeming liberal so they do this to look balanced, but CNN just looks weak and foolish. Still airing his rallies in this day and age makes them no better than FOX.

Love the season one talk! I thought it was such an exciting debut season at the time. I also loved Kari and was disappointed when she left. I think she fit right in despite not being black in a mainly black cast show.

I’m in August 1971 and by this point I have a good enough feel for the Pollocks to form an opinion. They’re not bad, but the show is very plot driven and can be slow until they reach the next big point in the story. I find a more character driven show moves faster because you become more invested in the characters. My dear Karen is back in full swing, but the writing for her isn’t as complex as before. I still remember that Steve wasn’t Introduced as the upstanding man he is now. Granted she was wrong to try to steal Matt, but Steve had no right to rape her and force her into that marriage. She has good reason to keep Steve away from Enrich but it isn’t verbalized. Everybody simply views Karen as a problem, which I’m sure will only increase once it’s her turn to be the main villain. The Dan Allison story is wrapping up as well. He’s hit Carolee and now is in the hospital after a heart attack. The shift in writing for Dan was so jarring that it took some getting used to, but now that I have it’s fine. I’m just glad this will be ending hopefully soon. One thing I recall y’all saying is how out of character it is for Mike to become a police officer later in the series. Based on what I’m watching now I wish they’d done that sooner. He doesn’t have the maturity of temperament to be a doctor based on what we’re seeing right now. He’s just taken a drug from the lab and almost jumped off the roof after hallucinating on it. Now that he’s better everybody seems to have moved on so quickly. I wish they had moved Mike in a different direction here. I do love him with Toni so I’m hoping his crazy days are behind him. Im curious where the show will go once the Dan story is wrapped up. Maggie is only a talk to and Althea and John are pretty much on the back burner post marriage. I enjoy Kathy but I do wish Nick had a more age appropriate love interest, Karen perhaps.

I’m thankful for two things: 1. Katie being on the cast trip for Potomac. I’m hoping that means she’ll have a good presence on the new season. If so this can be a really strong season. 2. I’m thankful Tamra is finally feeling some heat next week! It feels like everybody has been going easy on her the past couple years. She used to always get called out for her shyt stiring, but now she gets a total pass. I hope Shannon annihilates her once she finds out.

Ironic this is happening after what I felt was a solid season which finally cast some newbies that worked. Link: https://deadline.com/2018/10/vh1-basketball-wives-love-and-hip-hop-1202487711/ Basically, Shed Media is out and they’re meeting with new producers to take the show in a new direction in hopes it refreshes the format enough to lead to more spin offs.

I get what they mean about Shannon, but I feel like Tamra is very strategic with the cameras and plotted this. I think Shannon was fine on the trip and Tamra kept prodding her into a meltdown. The new girls resent that she doesn’t like them, but she doesn’t have to like them. The pile up felt like typical Tamra. She was leading Shannon to believe things were fine, but going behind her back still talking about the Eddie thing. She riled those new housewives up and got what she wanted. The bad thing is Shannon will forgive her and fall for it.

I don’t know why I thought I wouldn’t like Nancy Barrett as Cathy, but she’s doing just fine. I kept pictures immature Carolyn, obviously forgetting how many different roles she played on Dark Shadows and she’s nothing like Carolyn here. It’s still a shame this role was recast twice. The original actress was really good! I hope the third one is as well.

I’m hopeful if RetroTV makes it to the end they’ll go back and show us what older episodes they have. I believe it’s a near complete run so potentially only the first year is missing.

@vetsoapfan I’m pretty sure that’s the earliest you will find. I remember before The Doctors joined RetroTV, there were no episodes from the 60s I’d ever seen.

I’ve made it to May 1971 and I’m growing tired of Dan who was instantly turned into a cartoon when The Pollocks too over. I do like the strength it’s brought out of Carolee, but he can be tiresome. Just when i thought it would be a strucgle to continue watching with that story getting so much screentime, MY HOMEGIRL KAREN HAS ARRIVED! Her wig looks like it’s been in a fight but she’s upset about her baby so I understand! I’m so happy to finally see Karen again!

I just watched the last two Orange County episodes. The trip is okay by this seasons standards, but you can tell the ladies (Newbies + Tamra) are trying to goad Shannon into a fight. When it comes to the newbies who ARE boring, Shannon just isn’t into them! They look crazy constantly talking about her! Enjoy yourself and the people who do get along with you. People are closer to Others in every friend group. Then Tamra is the snake she always was trying to play both sides then throwing Shannon under the bus which will continue Next week. I get that Shannon is annoying at times and especially last season was dark, but I’ll always appreciate her for showing her true life and personality, warts and all. I feel she’s turned a corner this season and is trying to be happy and move forward with her life. It seems like Tamra WANTS her to stay miserable to use against her. She’s clearly still upset about the Eddie/Shannon stuff. I just hope come reunion that Shannon digs into Tamra’s ass and stops falling for her Mess.

I’ve given up on OC this season. Of course I will still watch, but is horrible and boring. I’m so ready for it to be over. Same with Dallas. Both shows need to overhaul their casts next season and OC needs to ditch both newbies. Im thankful NJ and ATL look promising because it’s not a good time to be a housewives fan!

The wives always go after LVP because they clearly don’t like her, but it never works. If the idea of a revamp is everybody getting along to attack Lisa it’ll fail like season 4. For one that’s boring and two the pile up will make the audience side with Lisa. I hope and pray she truly disappears from filming so they can implode with each other. I need a cast photo and trailer soooo bad just to get a sense of what is true and what isn’t.

I’m in March 71 and find the show much more difficult to watch. The pacing has slowed down and the flashbacks are ridiculous. The positive aspect is that like Dynasty, The Pollocks can introduce good new characters. I still need to wait for Cathy to be recast, but I love Hank and John and Toni. They’re injecting new life into the show, but existing characters are struggling. I was concerned about Althea and Nick, but the writing for them is actually fine but Maggie is unbearable. This horrible story with this man stalking her reminds me of Liz and her stalker. It drags on and doesn’t really interest me at all. I’d rather focus on Greta, the most interesting member of the Powers family.

I saw Nene’s comments and she said she’s expecting a baby shower invite. I take her comments to be more ego than anything. If you have the “star” of the franchise, she wants you to ask about her not someone who is no longer on the show. That’s very Nene.

I’m bored by these fake hoes going after LVP again. She is so unbothered and they are obsessed with her! I hope she quits mid season as well. It’s about time they carry the show themselves.

Oh that is sooooo nice seeing Kenya and Porsha together!

Meghan can be very annoying, but at least she is honest about how she feels and mixes it up with the women. Abby has been snoozeworthy! She has such thin arguments and opinions when it comes to politics and I feel she says something and they just quickly move on. She’s irrelevant. The only time she perks up is when they talk pop culture stuff. I highly doubt she’ll last the entire season. I’m curious to see how she’ll act with Megan on.

ATL’s trailer was quiet, but I can’t be upset considering they were in dire need of a reboot. Kenya, Porsha and Kim Fields are the only new housewives they’ve had! Compared to others that is insane. I’m going to give them a chance since they finally seem to be making an effort. I also think the premiere will have another trailer because they didn’t include Marlo or Tanya and we know they’re a heavy presence throughout the season. ETA: Tamara Tattles has more details: http://tamaratattles.com/2018/10/01/tanya-sam-will-not-be-a-full-time-housewife-after-all/ From that it looks like Tanya was always meant as a friend, but something happens in Tokyo that made them want to promote her but they didn’t have enough footage to do it. Now I’m curious what happens because I can’t get a read from her pics what type of personality she will have. I’m most excited to see her mostly because she seems so mysterious to us lol.

I’m glad Marlo finally got an official shot! That’s all I needed! All in all the trailer was shockingly positive with not much drama between the ladies. I’m sure they left a lot of the drama out and the season looks fine. I missed Kenya and Sheree’s master shade (not to mention the joggers!), but it’s time they had some fresh faces so I’m in. After eh seasons for OC and Dallas I’m ready!

I’ve always said the ratings are low because the cast is bland. They’re pleasant and provide a steady dose of drama but they’re too similar. If they get a fourth season they HAVE to change the cast.