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The Guiding Light 1964

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-1/2/64-1/31/64. Julie starts to become materialistic and possessive of Hope. Johnny overhears Paul tell Helene that he wants to marry Robin. Jane thinks of herself more as Johnny’s mother than aunt and is panicking with jealousy of Robin becoming his stepmother. Jane manipulates Johnny into telling Paul that he doesn’t want Robin as his new mother and tries to turn everyone against the idea of Paul and Robin marrying. Alex comes back from Tennessee and surprises everyone with the news that he and Doris didn’t get married but that she married an amnesiac patient from the hospital that she’s working in. Robin tells Paul they need to put off their marriage because of Johnny and an angry Paul tells Jane to move out of his house.

-2/3/64-2/28/64. Mike’s cold turns into a bronchial infection which could develop into pneumonia but Julie’s main concern is the delay it could mean in Mike becoming a lawyer. Bruce calls Julie out on her selfishness. Julie opens up to Alex and tries to explain to him how horrible it was to never have had any money. Robin packs her bags and leaves town. Jane is feeling triumphant. Alex takes Julie out to lunch and she tells him that she’s not the same person she was, a girl in love with Mike Bauer, and that she now doesn’t feel anything for him because she knows he only married her because she was pregnant with Hope. Julie having lunch alone with Alex causes Mike to be jealous and Jane to warn Julie. George’s detective finds out that Robin is in NYC but Jane interferes before Paul can get to Robin.

-3/2/64-3/31/64. Julie is starting to get on Papa Bauer’s nerves and he’s getting testy with her. Julie accepts an expensive gift from Alex for Hope, Mike orders her to take it back and Julie refuses. Mike goes to Paul for a checkup and tells him that Julie has been frigid since Hope’s birth and that he doesn’t have much hope for the marriage. George confronts Jane about telling Robin that Paul had found her. Julie flashes back to when she told Mike she was pregnant and he told her to give the baby up for adoption. Jane gets Henry Benedict involved in her machinations. Paul tracks down Robin in New York.

-4/1/64-4/30/64. Paul suggests to Robin that they secretly marry in New York and that she come back home with him. Mike is plagued by a mysterious, crippling pain in his right arm which worries him but Julie is only worried about Mike having to drop out of law school. Julie confides in Alex that she doesn’t love Mike anymore. Paul and Robin get married and leave New York. Bert talks to Papa about Julie’s accusation that Bert forced Mike to marry her and the shame that she thinks Julie feels about the
Bauers knowing she got pregnant before marriage. Mike is diagnosed with a viral infection and is ordered to check into the hospital for treatment, much to Mike’s protest and Julie’s catastrophizing due to Mike having to miss more school. 

-5/1/64-5/29/64. Paul and Robin live separately and keep their marriage a secret from Johnny and Jane. Paul is getting fed up with Jane. Jane tries to pull Bruce into her web but Bruce isn’t falling for it. Jane continues to poison Johnny’s mind against Robin. Henry tries to discourage Robin from marrying Paul, not knowing that they are already married. Julie tells Alex she is tired of everyone accusing her of being selfish and then tells Alex she wants to be with a man like him. Being released from the hospital, Mike has a new determination to save his marriage. Johnny becomes emotionally disturbed thinking that Robin could become his stepmother. Mike tells a disappointed Bert that he’s going to quit law school because he feels like it will save his marriage. George tries to get Jane to see that she’s hiding from men and the world by losing herself in her brother and nephew, which angers Jane. 

-6/1/64-6/30/64. Jane calls Paul’s hotel in Chicago and the hotel mentions “Mrs. Fletcher” much to Jane’s shock. Jane tells Johnny that Paul and Robin lied to them and are married. Johnny runs away from home. Henry’s anger at Paul boils as he blames him for the death of his daughter and now perhaps of his grandson. Mike quits law school and gets a job at a construction site. Johnny is found by a guard at the zoo and when Johnny tells him he doesn’t have any parents, only grandparents, the guard gets in touch with Henry. The guard takes Johnny over to Henry’s and Henry tells Johnny he doesn’t have to go back to Paul. 

-7/1/64-7/31/64. Johnny refuses to go home with Paul and threatens to run away again if he tries to take him home. Paul returns home alone, puts Jane on blast and throws her out. Jane is devastated as Johnny turns on her as well. Julie talks to Alex about the irony that Mike now loves her since she once loved Mike though he didn’t love her but, because he only married her because she was pregnant, that killed the love she once had for him. She tells Alex she’s leaving Mike. A sympathetic George rushes to help Jane after she is found by the police, walking around incoherent and in a daze. George takes Jane to his apartment where Jane gets suicidal and runs out into the street. George chases after her and gets hit by a car. George has a craniotomy performed on him and a guilt-ridden Jane becomes his private nurse. Alex reluctantly lends Julie the money she needs to leave Mike.

-8/3/64-8/31/64. Julie tells Mike she’s leaving him. Mike forces himself sexually on Julie. Johnny continues to give Paul and Robin the cold shoulder and Robin doubts whether she and Paul should have married. Julie tells Bert she is leaving Mike. Bert pleads with Mike to fight for his marriage but Mike says he’s done. Papa gives Julie some Old World advice. Paul and Robin start to think that Johnny should go back to the Benedicts.

-9/1/64-9/30/64. Mike decides to go back to law school. George regains consciousness but has amnesia. Everyone is worried about George’s brain damage. Johnny leaves Paul to go live with Henry and Helene in San Francisco. Robin feels guilty. Julie fears that she’s pregnant after Mike raped her. George has vague memories of an old flame named Mary and says Jane reminds him of her. Bert stops by Julie’s new place to see Hope and Bert and Julie have a fight.

-10/1/64-10/30/64. George starts to get some of his memory back and Jane, now that she’s falling for him, fears that George will stop liking her if he remembers what she did to Johnny. Julie desperately consults a divorce lawyer. George starts to have feelings for Jane as well and can’t understand why he wasn’t with her before the accident. Jane swears Alex to secrecy but he encourages George to wait till he gets his memory back before making any big decisions. Bill comes back home from Europe. Julie becomes more bitter and paranoid against the Bauers and hits up Alex for money to leave the state to get a quickie divorce. When Alex refuses to give Julie the money unless she tells him why she needs such a fast divorce, she is forced to tell him she’s pregnant. Robin, longing to be a mother herself, starts to get obsessed with Hope. 

-11/2/64-11/30/64. Papa thinks Robin should have her own baby but Robin, thinking of her own painful childhood, doesn’t want to alienate Johnny anymore. Julie is shattered when she learns from her lawyer that she can’t move out of the state without Mike’s permission. Julie wants to give her unborn child up for adoption without telling Mike about the baby’s existence. Mike forbids Julie to leave California with Hope. Julie tells Alex that if she can’t leave the state and give the baby up for adoption, she’s going to abort it. Alex asks Julie to marry him. Bill is already bored and restless being back in domestic life and longs to keep traveling. Johnny fakes being sick so he doesn’t have to go to Paul and Robin’s for Thanksgiving. 

-12/1/64 thru 12/31/64. Jane and George are both perplexed to learn that Alex and Julie are planning on getting married. Jane accuses Julie of wanting to marry Alex for his money and Julie says money is more important than love. Bert is worried that Julie is going to move away with Hope. George, who has amnesia after an accident that Jane caused, is dating Jane and everyone is concerned about what will happen if George gets his memory back and remembers how Jane manipulated Johnny to break up Paul and Robin. Paul tells a shocked George the truth about George’s past disdain for Jane and how running after her caused him to be hit by a car. Bert wants Julie to come over for Christmas but Mike doesn’t want her to. Bert tells Papa she’s going over to see Julie to invite her for Christmas and Papa thinks it’s a big mistake. Mike tells Bill he will have Hope on Christmas Day. Bert goes over to Julie’s apartment to try and get her to come over for Christmas. Bert notices Julie being in pain and finds her pill bottle. Bert asks Julie not to move away with Hope and Julie becomes unhinged and lashes out at Bert, telling her that she’s going to be married to a very wealthy man who can buy and sell all the Bauers. George tells Alex he thinks Paul is wrong about Jane and blames Paul for what happened with Johnny. Bill and Bert tell Papa that Julie’s planning on remarrying though they don’t know with whom. Julie tells Mike she’s not moving because she’s getting married to Alex Bowden and tells him she’s going to Mexico for a divorce. Mike gets angry and refuses to sign the papers. George and Jane go out to celebrate New Year’s Eve and George toasts to their new year together.  

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    THE HERALD STATESMAN, YONKERS, N.Y., THURS., NOV. 19, 1970 Sandy Smith Enjoys Healthy Success by Harvey Peck Sandra Smith(Julie) mentions GL in this article. Not sure what she's getting at. Seems frus

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    I mean I would prefer a lamb chop (well, despite being a vegetarian) over a karate chop, too! It's just funny because the first paragraph goes on about how she would be perfectly happy to have a role

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Thanks @Reverend Ruthledge

I'm amused by Doris' final offcamera exit being that she married an amnesiac. What a wild life. She should have had a spinoff show.

Mike and Julie is another case, a very strong case, of wishing I could see the material (I know we all wish that!). If 1963 was the year where Mike broke Julie down, this seems to be the year where the show itself broke Julie down. She has no one, other than Alex Bowden, now a more benevolent version of the role he played with Mike and Robin a few years earlier (I wonder if he ever interacts with Robin now). Mike then rapes her (something I never even knew about the character until your posts), although I am not sure if the show considered it rape, and now she is completely isolated and closing out the year in agonizing pain with (I assume) a miscarriage on the way.

I wonder if Bert or Papa know that Mike forced himself on Julie.

It would have been a compelling story if Hope had ever found out about any of this but I don't even know how much the show mentioned Julie after her death.

Is Ed entirely offcamera in these years?

Speaking of that, I know Meta is still around in some capacity, so it's strange to see Bruce get more mentions than her.

This definitely is not how I expected the Jane and George relationship to start. By the 1966 episodes they are both placid and support roles.

It seems like all the obsessive/damaged women parts were taken from Robin and Jane and fully given to Julie. At this time Robin seems to be in put-upon heroine mode. A sad moment where she's asked about having a child and says she can't because of everything with Johnny, knowing that Johnny would later unintentionally cause her to have a miscarriage.

Is Gillian Spencer playing Robin by this point? I wonder if Ellen Weston was fired or if she wanted to leave.

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THE HERALD STATESMAN, YONKERS, N.Y., THURS., NOV. 19, 1970

Sandy Smith Enjoys Healthy Success by Harvey Peck

Sandra Smith(Julie) mentions GL in this article. Not sure what she's getting at. Seems frustrated by GL's stories but wants to get married and let her husband lead the way.

NEW YORK- The lady doctor on CBS' The Interns" is not a member oi Women's Liberation. In fact if there's a guy around with a tremendous amounf. of drive seeking a helpmate, Sandy Smith is move than willing to give up her career and spend the rest of life as the wife of a successful man. "Don't misunderstand me," she explained during a recent New York visit. "I'm for equal rights for women But in my own case. . . I'm happy with my lot.'' Being pro male is nothing new for Sandy.

She gave up a lucrative steady job on the popular daytime drama "Guiding Light" because she could no longer put up with the "momism" which she feels dominates all daytime housewife oriented television.

"I just couldn't get up in the morning any more .knowing I had to go through another day of that stuff. When my contract came up tor renewal it was like a parole, of course the money was helpful and I met a lot of talented actors, but the stories are a joke."

Somewhere along the line the Minneapolis born Miss Smith has lost her drive for stardom, a refreshing trait to discover in a young actress. She doesn't fight with her male co stars for the best roles but she turns in a professional job and frankly likes it when the writers give her character. Dr. Lydia Thorpe, a nice piece of the sub-plot. Perhaps because she has no stars in her eyes, she's very popular on the set and can even get sway with criticizing a scene she's not in. 'The boys have to be conscious of the fan mail count: and the way the weekly leads are distributed." she points- out, "1 don't blame them. Nighttime TV belongs to the men. With the exception of comedy stars, I can hardly think of a young actress who has made it big off a TV series." She enjoys acting but she enjoys life more.Since she ran away from daytime drama and moved to Hollywood, the jobs have come easily for the talented redhead. She had guest star roles on "Gunsmoke,' "Hawaii FiveO," "Bonanza, The FBI," and "The Flying Nun" before signing on for "The Interns." She hopes the show runs and runs been because this time the storylines do not infuriate her and she looks forward to coming on the set every morning. "After all," she concludes, "I'm earning good money while looking for a husband. As for ambition,well I'll save it for him."

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That's wild--the first paragraph seems to go against almost everything else in the article.

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22 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

That's wild--the first paragraph seems to go against almost everything else in the article.

I've seen a number of other articles like this from the early '70s which feel like propaganda. One I remember was in Daytime TV with a Somerset actress who was speaking against women's lib - I think the title of the article was along the lines of SHE PREFERS A LAMB CHOP OVER A KARATE CHOP.

Sandra's marriage ended in divorce, so if she did sacrifice her career for him, I hope she didn't regret it.

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I mean I would prefer a lamb chop (well, despite being a vegetarian) over a karate chop, too! It's just funny because the first paragraph goes on about how she would be perfectly happy to have a role in a marriage being secondary if not subordinate to her husband--and then seems to object to ever having to play a role like that on a show.

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22 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

I mean I would prefer a lamb chop (well, despite being a vegetarian) over a karate chop, too! It's just funny because the first paragraph goes on about how she would be perfectly happy to have a role in a marriage being secondary if not subordinate to her husband--and then seems to object to ever having to play a role like that on a show.

That's what I thought.

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I've seen a number of other articles like this from the early '70s which feel like propaganda. One I remember was in Daytime TV with a Somerset actress who was speaking against women's lib - I think the title of the article was along the lines of SHE PREFERS A LAMB CHOP OVER A KARATE CHOP.

Sandra's marriage ended in divorce, so if she did sacrifice her career for him, I hope she didn't regret it.

Who was Sandra married to?

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18 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

That's what I thought.

Who was Sandra married to?

Per IMDB, Billy James from 1959-November 22, 1983, producing two children. Now that I read it again I realize the specific date may mean death rather than divorce, so my apologies to the previous statement.

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