1 minute ago, Taoboi said:

I do miss the nuances that led up to him being like this for sure. It very much is giving cartoon. Though to be fair, this writers have Tracy being one note sometimes and JE still elevates their writing. There is more to Tracy than grumpy grandma.

Well, CM isn't Jane lol. As an audience we also have years of history with Tracy and know she has layers even if the writing isn't there.

I like Drew being a shameless villain privately. He's gone a little too far. He can at least try to act like a normal human in public lol.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Well, CM isn't Jane lol. As an audience we also have years of history with Tracy and know she has layers even if the writing isn't there.

I like Drew being a shameless villain privately. He's gone a little too far. He can at least try to act like a normal human in public lol.

Mos def. lol.

Hmm kinda like crafty/cunning? Cuz I believe Sidwell eclipsed him in that department. I believe the thread talked months ago about how it was good to have Drew as the more...grounded villain while Sidwell was the more soap supervillain. But since Sidwell blackmailed Drew, Drew's villainy has lost all of its agency for me. It was like the writers just could not have two villains at the same time. I smh.

1 minute ago, Taoboi said:

Mos def. lol.

Hmm kinda like crafty/cunning? Cuz I believe Sidwell eclipsed him in that department. I believe the thread talked months ago about how it was good to have Drew as the more...grounded villain while Sidwell was the more soap supervillain. But since Sidwell blackmailed Drew, Drew's villainy has lost all of its agency for me. It was like the writers just could not have two villains at the same time. I smh.

I think there's room for both if I didn't find Sidwell's entire existence unnecessary. Sidwell's out there performing his own comedy routine half the time and sometimes it's mildly entertaining. I don't consider him a sustainable villain like Drew.

I was thinking more of someone like EJ on Days for Drew. You know he's up to no good, but he's always shocked people think that and keeps his plans closer to the vest. He's able to charm and convince people he changed while Drew doesn't care.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think there's room for both if I didn't find Sidwell's entire existence unnecessary. Sidwell's out there performing his own comedy routine half the time and sometimes it's mildly entertaining. I don't consider him a sustainable villain like Drew.

I was thinking more of someone like EJ on Days for Drew. You know he's up to no good, but he's always shocked people think that and keeps his plans closer to the vest. He's able to charm and convince people he changed while Drew doesn't care.

Wacka wacka!!! lol. But I completely agree. I like the actor, but it's the same show and dance that Frank does with villains with that 'look at me! I'm evil' though from where I'm playing catch-up, the actor is bringing some nice menace finally. But I don't and have never found him sustainable. Now Frank on the other hand...by displacing Drew who was really running roughshod over everyone and had a lot of fingers in story pies to bow down to Sidwell...seems to feel differently. I found Drew too to be the sustainable villain. All he needed was a redeeming quality, but they took it away (Scout) and I really hated they did that. He was perfect IMO due to that. It's another reason why he's a cartoon now. His obsession love for Willow ain't it.

EJ is a good example for Drew to be like. It would be nice if they would try. But alas.

Apologies if this has already been discussed and I missed it, but how far in advance does GH tape their episodes?

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I think there's room for both if I didn't find Sidwell's entire existence unnecessary. Sidwell's out there performing his own comedy routine half the time and sometimes it's mildly entertaining. I don't consider him a sustainable villain like Drew.

I was thinking more of someone like EJ on Days for Drew. You know he's up to no good, but he's always shocked people think that and keeps his plans closer to the vest. He's able to charm and convince people he changed while Drew doesn't care.

That is how it should be at this point.

I also never wanted the shooting to change Drew. He's too good a villain as he is and Mulcahey's more nuanced version of the character is long gone anyway. But you can add some more layers and dimension vs. what they're currently doing, and see what happens in future.

I just got to the eye mites. They made Felicia be part of this too?

4 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I just got to the eye mites.

Not a sentence you read everyday, lol!

I didn't want the shooting to change Drew either, but as I've said before, if you're going to shoot him, and he doesn't die or undergo some kind of seismic shift in his personality, what's the point?

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Credits for Wednesday, December 24, 2025:

Created by: Frank & Doris Hursley
Executive producer: Frank Valentini
Head writers: Elizabeth Korte and Chris Van Etten
Writers: Suzanne Flynn; Stacey Pulwer and Cathy Lepard
Director: Gary Tomlin