GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread

[carolineg]

For completionism sake the Lily/Miguel side of the story is them finding Juan (and perhaps future PC resident cousin Sabrina), meeting him, deciding he's better off with his adoptive parents, and leaving him in Puerto Rico.  That basically puts a pin in that story until Juan shows up aged a few years later.  Compared to the Sonny plot it's all very pointless and dull which is just par for the course for Lily/Miguel in general.

I don't have much love for the Sabrina era of GH, so I still haven't quite figured out how Juan and somehow Lily's (fake?) brothers are related to or involved with Sabrina.

[Liberty City]

According to Sabrina, Marcos Santos is the son of her aunt Inocencia Santiago and was friends with Carlos Rivera. And Armando Santiago is her uncle, so that would make Juan Santiago her adoptive cousin. What they [should] have done was make her related to Dolores Santiago (removing the mention of Inocencia).

[Taoboi]

You know I live for you not liking Lily/Miguel. Though I know you have warm to Lily over time.

 

I go back and forth over Sabrina myself. I had already left before Sabrina/Michael started though it sounded like it had potential.

 

 

Yep.

[carolineg]

Lol!  I read that like four times and it still makes little sense through no fault of yours.  Tying Sabrina to Juan is just boring on top of boring lol.

So are Carlos and his twin actually related to Lily or was that a lie?  I am sure it doesn't really matter because it didn't really make any difference in the story anyhow.

Sadly, I was thinking about them and Lily/Miguel would probably be a popular pairing pushed in this current era.  Against the embarrassment of riches with mid 90's couples they were glaringly bad. Realistically, they had as much chemistry as BLQ and Chase do today lol.  Lily's baby rabies and adoption woes would fit right in.

[Liberty City]

That's the "writer" for you. 

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 It's what he did, continuously and endlessly.

I don't believe Carlos and his brother Joe Rivera are related to Lily in any kind of way. It is Sabrina (and her child/children) that would be related. But Carlos and Joe are not.

[carolineg]

I swear at least Carlos said he was Lily's illegitimate half brother or told Sonny that.  I just don't recall if that was true or not.  

ETA-His soapcentral bio just says "Relatives-unknown (he claims to be Lily's half brother)"-SIC.  So..........I guess we just don't know lol.

[jasonminer1974]

He lied so sonny wouldn't kill him 

[Liberty City]

I think it was a claim he was related to Lily? I don't know. I tried to block that whole period out of my mind... it's the end of his tenure, and everything was so bad. So, so bad.

[Contessa Donatella]

And, I guess we are at a point where we think the stabbing was just enough to put Dex into the hospital so Cyrus could complete his serial killer pattern/MO with the digitalis as opposed to just stabbing him to death right there outside Rice Plaza. I wonder if this storyline is going to get into how Cyrus chose his victims. Probably not. 

[Taoboi]

Yeah, we really did have it good. As far as romances that I'm currently liking...I would say Jordan and Isaiah, Brennan and Carly once it moved, Ava and Ric once it moves, Liz and Lucky when they are shown...but I think you get what I'm saying.

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  Back then, couples were built and build mostly organically. Heck thinking like that...I think the only one that's building and actually shown at the moment is Jordan and Isaiah. lol.

 

And to think before that, the only couple building WAS BLQ and Chase (with Cody and Sasha on the side) and look at them now. smh.

[carolineg]

Okay.  Your memory sounds about the same as mine.  He claimed he was related to Lily to Sonny, Sonny said he'd look into it, and we just never got confirmation one way or the other.  I am sure there was probably an actual idea at some point to tie Juan, Sabrina, Carlos, Julian etc together into some plot against Sonny.  Ron either got bored or realized no one on canvas besides Sonny would care about characters related to Lily in 2013.

[Liberty City]

He was just throwing out references to tie-in his own character creations, likely in the hopes they'd continue on well beyond his exit. Boy, oh boy, was he wrong. Little to none of his created characters still exist outside of Ava and... who else? 

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[Contessa Donatella]

I asked MVJ if she wrote Mary Mae visiting Stone & yes, she did. 

[carolineg]

Yeah, even the worst couples on the shows in the mid 90's had build up-even Lily/Miguel.  And, hey, at least Ricky Martin and Lily Melgar were willing to do love scenes I suppose.

Is Nina a Ron creation?

[Liberty City]

Oh yes, uh-oh. 

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 That was the Michelle Stafford era, and I block that out as much as humanly possible. I mean, can you blame me?