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Ashley was Tiffany Abbott on Y&R.

Reva was Joanna Lewis on GL.

Maggie was Hannah Forrester on B&B.

Pam was Lorraine Davis on B&B.

Any others?

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On 3/1/2023 at 3:12 PM, janea4old said:

Bo was originally Marcus Aurelius, later changed to Beauregard Aurelius.

Marcus Aurelius would have been a little "on the nose" given that his brother was named Roman,  But, somewhere along the way they would've needed to explain why this Irish family named their sons after leaders of the Roman Empire.  And if Caroline had named him Pericles, his Greek origin would've been too obvious.

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On 5/7/2023 at 11:34 AM, j swift said:

Marcus Aurelius would have been a little "on the nose" given that his brother was named Roman,  But, somewhere along the way they would've needed to explain why this Irish family named their sons after leaders of the Roman Empire.  And if Caroline had named him Pericles, his Greek origin would've been too obvious.

They must have hung on to this idea for a bit. I recall seeing a clip from 1982 with Catherine Mary Stewart's Kayla telling someone - I think it may have been Marlena? - about her absent brother Marcus.

Obviously, by the time he showed up in 1983, he was Beauregard/Bo.

Although someone must have liked the name Marcus, since the character of Marcus Hunter did come later on...

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In the original pre-OLTL bible for AMC, the Martin family was the Craig family: Dr. Joe Craig, his son John, daughter Teresa (nicknamed Tara), and younger son Danny. The Brents - Ted, Ruth, and Phil - were originally the Martins, and Ruth’s sister Amy was originally Carol.

Nina Cortlandt was first referred to as Lily.

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19 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

In the original pre-OLTL bible for AMC, the Martin family was the Craig family: Dr. Joe Craig, his son John, daughter Teresa (nicknamed Tara), and younger son Danny. The Brents - Ted, Ruth, and Phil - were originally the Martins, and Ruth’s sister Amy was originally Carol.

Nina Cortlandt was first referred to as Lily.

Here nickname was Terry

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1 hour ago, allmc2008 said:

Here nickname was Terry

From the bible:

"...Joe returned with his elder son, John, age twenty, who is now away at pre-med himself, seventeen-year old Teresa, generally known as Tara, and twelve-year old Danny..."

It also gives Joe's late father and Kate's late husband the name "John," but I believe he ended up being referred to as "Henry" on the show.

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21 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

Nina Cortlandt was first referred to as Lily.

I am surprised that Nina appears in the bible, given that she didn't premiere until nine years after the show began.

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Was there much about Carol in that version of the AMC bible? Knowing that Rosemary Prinz would only play Amy for six months makes me curious about what Agnes Nixon may have had planned for Carol.

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3 hours ago, j swift said:

I am surprised that Nina appears in the bible, given that she didn't premiere until nine years after the show began.

Oh, I should’ve clarified that info came from a 1979 script I came across online years ago. I want to say it was summer 1979, when Palmer first appeared (and Nina soon followed). I recall Phoebe asking about his daughter Lily.

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I believe Carol stayed on and tried to save her marriage to Linc and form a relationship with her son, Phillip,who had killed his real father Nick Davis.

Was it worth it to have Rosemary Prinz only agree to 6 months and then drop the character for good? At least a recast Amy could have returned say a year later to play out the story.

It never made sense to me that Amy would just leave and that was that.

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6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I believe Carol stayed on and tried to save her marriage to Linc and form a relationship with her son, Phillip,who had killed his real father Nick Davis.

Was it worth it to have Rosemary Prinz only agree to 6 months and then drop the character for good? At least a recast Amy could have returned say a year later to play out the story.

It never made sense to me that Amy would just leave and that was that.

This is correct. From what I gather, Nick was meant to be a much more villainous figure who never shows up in PV. Phil goes to work at his bar in New York and is finally driven to a moment of temporary anger in which he beats Nick to death. Of course, Nick goes on to become one of the defining faces of the show in the 70s, so I bet the change in story for both he and Carol/Amy was due to Rosemary agreeing to play Amy but for only six months. The whole story of Phil's paternity would have felt like a waste of time if both of his real parents were gone within the first year.

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20 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

From the bible:

"...Joe returned with his elder son, John, age twenty, who is now away at pre-med himself, seventeen-year old Teresa, generally known as Tara, and twelve-year old Danny..."

It also gives Joe's late father and Kate's late husband the name "John," but I believe he ended up being referred to as "Henry" on the show.

Terry. Also, the "Episode 1" with the cleaner type face is from the 1967 draft.

I love that the show's opening was originally described as people walking up a hill with the whole "The Great and the Least" thing as an epigram similar to Day's "Like sands through the hour glass..."

 

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19 hours ago, j swift said:

I am surprised that Nina appears in the bible, given that she didn't premiere until nine years after the show began.

She wasn't in the bible.

The copy of the bible the images are taken from is from the one in Bill Bell's collection at UCLA.

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1 hour ago, allmc2008 said:

Terry. Also, the "Episode 1" with the cleaner type face is from the 1967 draft.

 

 

 

The copy I’ve seen must be a reproduction that changed Terry to Tara. It didn’t make sense to me that Tara would be a nickname for Teresa.

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years ago, i was digging through the p&g holdings at the wisconsin historical society, and have a vague recollection that on atwt, margo was originally called julie. 

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