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19 hours ago, Frank2803 said:

Todd Manning's redemption from a black hat villain to more of a gray villain surprisingly worked well. It was a stroke of genius making Viki his sister.

Scott Bryce's Craig should be the blueprint into turning a character from a villain to a hero 

Todd is almost hard to swallow now, but back then I went along with it.  They did do a good job of having opposing characters that didn’t let Todd forget his past and bad acts, like Roger on GL.

18 hours ago, Chris B said:

 

One of the best redemptions I've seen was the original redemption of Michael and Kevin on Y&R, I'd even include Phyllis. Around that 2003-2004 period the show had mostly redeemed these characters, but they still only existed on their side of Genoa City. They had their supporters, but their victims and victims families were allowed to dislike them and not want to be around them. It was the perfect balance I felt. Then as the writers changed it all shifted and their crimes were swept under the rug, their victims became the villains in the story and Kevin, Michael AND Phyllis were all turned into romantic heroes and heroine. The sad thing is, they were less interesting this way and there was less depth to the story after this was done.

I think they had gone too far with Michael before 2003.  I agree though that all three suffered as time went on.

7 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

I was watching classic OLTL, and I couldn't help but to feel that Marco was redeemed from someone who would pimp outKaren/Katrina...to being someone to root for in 1983. 

ETA: It seems like Marco pretending to be Mario was used as a vehicle for the redemption.

Even as Mario and later Marco he did do some light scheming.  But nothing as bad as his earlier period on the show.  When he was on GH later I recall he schemed a little with Tracy too.  But nothing like pimping Katrina/Karen.

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