6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

We interrupt this discussion to travel back to late 1971 with an excerpt from an article about soaps.

...After a supermarket, hand soap, toothpaste, freeze dried coffee, new network program and floor wax all been pushed, we are suddenly basking in front of the Guiding Light, This one's a beaut. We are in Springfield now, and, more precisely, at Cedars Hospital. Dr. Jackson is talking to a nurse, Peggy Fletcher.. The doctor is Leslie's father. Another prominent surgeon at Cedars is Ed Bauer. He used to be be Leslie's husband. You can tell he's at least a semi good guy because he is unwrapping a toy he just bought for his kid, Freddie. Leslie left him when he got involved with another girl, Janet Mason.

A couple of weeks ago, Leslie married Stanley Norris, whom my wife describes as "a tycoon nobody likes with three wives, a bad reputation, and a ruthless nature." You can tell he's a rat. Even while he's inside he lights cigarettes like he's shielding them from the wind. Shows he hung out on street corners as a kid. Norris always playing the stock market. Right now he'strying to buy back control in Liberty Airlines.

David Vested, his top helper, is supposed to be managing this coup,. But David is Kit Vested's brother. Kit Vested was Norris's first wife. Secretly, David is sending Stanley down the tubes, He deserves it. It won't take Stanley long to find out," my wife murmurs. Rats are always smart.

After a commercial for something called a Biz Bag, we see Dr. Ed Bauer trying to get up to Stanley Norris' apartment. He hates Norris because the tycoon is also a big cheese on the hospital board of trustees. Ed was an alcoholic when he was dating Janet Mason, and Stanley ruled he either had to go back with Leslie, Ed's wife at the time (and now Stanley's, jronically), or else get fired, Leslie was going out with Ed's brother Michael at the time, so she still had haif the male cast to work her way through; who cared? Ed reluctantly went back with her to keep his job, got her pregnant, and found out it. was a bad bargain. But he likes little Freddie (named for Papa Bauer). We see Stanley telling the apartment security guard not to let Ed up the tower with his toy for little Freddie, who now lives with Stanley 'and Leslie. What a bastard. Toys away from kids...

LOL...this is hilarious. And illuminating. I never really heard a description of Holly's father. It's hard imaging Barbara married to "a rat".

Dp

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by P.J.

5 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Slowly catching up on posts from the last 24 hours and I am shocked knowing that PAS and Laura Wright were on Loving together, let alone a couple who got married! I had no idea PAS was on Loving. How fun! Although I can't with his long hair haha. He looked much better on GL as Danny.

They were a very popular couple on there, yes.

I think he looks good both ways, but that type of hair doesn't look great as you age so he was smart to cut it.

14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

We interrupt this discussion to travel back to late 1971 with an excerpt from an article about soaps.

...After a supermarket, hand soap, toothpaste, freeze dried coffee, new network program and floor wax all been pushed, we are suddenly basking in front of the Guiding Light, This one's a beaut. We are in Springfield now, and, more precisely, at Cedars Hospital. Dr. Jackson is talking to a nurse, Peggy Fletcher.. The doctor is Leslie's father. Another prominent surgeon at Cedars is Ed Bauer. He used to be be Leslie's husband. You can tell he's at least a semi good guy because he is unwrapping a toy he just bought for his kid, Freddie. Leslie left him when he got involved with another girl, Janet Mason.

A couple of weeks ago, Leslie married Stanley Norris, whom my wife describes as "a tycoon nobody likes with three wives, a bad reputation, and a ruthless nature." You can tell he's a rat. Even while he's inside he lights cigarettes like he's shielding them from the wind. Shows he hung out on street corners as a kid. Norris always playing the stock market. Right now he'strying to buy back control in Liberty Airlines.

David Vested, his top helper, is supposed to be managing this coup,. But David is Kit Vested's brother. Kit Vested was Norris's first wife. Secretly, David is sending Stanley down the tubes, He deserves it. It won't take Stanley long to find out," my wife murmurs. Rats are always smart.

After a commercial for something called a Biz Bag, we see Dr. Ed Bauer trying to get up to Stanley Norris' apartment. He hates Norris because the tycoon is also a big cheese on the hospital board of trustees. Ed was an alcoholic when he was dating Janet Mason, and Stanley ruled he either had to go back with Leslie, Ed's wife at the time (and now Stanley's, jronically), or else get fired, Leslie was going out with Ed's brother Michael at the time, so she still had haif the male cast to work her way through; who cared? Ed reluctantly went back with her to keep his job, got her pregnant, and found out it. was a bad bargain. But he likes little Freddie (named for Papa Bauer). We see Stanley telling the apartment security guard not to let Ed up the tower with his toy for little Freddie, who now lives with Stanley 'and Leslie. What a bastard. Toys away from kids...

Did they mean Kit was Stanley's second wife? Barbara was his first.

I didn't know Kit had a brother. I wonder where his story ended.

I'd love to see some of this story, even if I have a feeling it was dull to watch day-to-day. Holly would go on to be so key to GL, likely more than anyone at the time could have known.

8 hours ago, P.J. said:

LOL...this is hilarious. And illuminating. I never really heard a description of Holly's father. It's hard imaging Barbara married to "a rat".

"a tycoon nobody likes with three wives, a bad reputation, and a ruthless nature."

First thing I thought--that could be a description of Alan! Maybe he was Alan's prototype.

That description of her father explains a lot about how Holly was when she was young.

(I'm going to say it again: I don't understand why it never occurred to anyone over the years to pair her with Alan. Because she sure as heck must have had a ton of daddy issues. Why wouldn't she be attracted to a man like her father?)

I recall being a bit confused, briefly, as a youngster, seeing Barbara on The Guiding Light. The actress had made such an impression on me as an interesting but unlikeable neurotic on ATWT before that.