Members Jess Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 Unfortunately for a long time, liberals contributed to liberal becoming a dirty word. We ran away from it rather than saying yes, here is what I believe and if that is liberal than so be it. I agree totally with Darcy. It's like any word that stands for any thing other than narrow-minded has become a dirty word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 I think that there is some perception that being liberal is akin to being weak and that liberals would rather give everything away for the sake of peace, as opposed to fighting. This is why I think Republican campaigns tend to be more predatory in nature, because they see Democrats as more likely to "turn the other cheek" when they attack Democrats and they basically count on that. Generally the public tends to gravitate towards the strong "bully" because of the notion that the "bully" can protect but realistically the "bully" is not necessarily strong. If and when the Democrats are able to change the perception of them as not being gutsy enough to go to war (and I think that perception will begin to change as soon as a Democrat initiates a war or some type of attack), then the Republicans will find the word "liberal" useless in their arsenal. Right now it appears to be somewhat diluted because Obama seems to be weathering the storm of being tagged the most liberal senator. The perception of feminists will begin to change when the faces of feminism changes. Many have been led to believe that feminism is the opposite of feminine so the key to changing that is really just to see more feminine feminists, It may seem shallow but I think it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 This is Huffington Post's transcript of Keith Olbermann's Special Comment yesterday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 I don't think Elizabeth Hasselback can get any more idiotic. According to her Barack Obama had a chance to stop the economic crisis and he didn't. I guess I've been asleep and missed the fact that he was running the country by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 I never thought of liberalism or feminism in this context before, but you turned on the light bulb for me, Wales. These are very interesting, thought-provoking points of view you've posted. You're the bomb, my friend! I'm going to consider them further and I may add something a little later on.... She's an empty-headed sycophantic Republican mouth piece. Obama could part the Red Sea and she would have something distracting and condemning to say. I wonder what she thinks McCain has done to stop the crisis? If a junior Senator has those opportunities, surely a 26 year senior Senator does as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg's GL Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 A couple of things. So Palin is up in NH talking about moose hunting And this (ugh) quote: Palin tries to recapture McCain's "NH Magic" I wonder if she knows the steps her party has taken over the last 8+ years to dismantle the environmental protections that were protecting the water and land. GWB descimated the EPA and had the balls to promote his "Clearer Skies Act" that is anything but.... I haven't seen anyone comment on this one. HRC says she will not run for President again: Clinton says she won't run again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bandbfan Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 Saw something that said that the RNC is pulling out of Wisconsin and Maine. Makes sense, the polls aren't too close and McCain has red states to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tishy Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 At the Dover NH rally, there were some people heckling her. She replied to one of them, and I am paraphrasing, "You have every right to protest and my son is in Iraq protecting that right". Another heckled her and told her to go home. I am trying to get ahold of my cousin who planned on going to get his reaction on how everything went. She is appearing in another rally tonight, I was going to try to go but you had to have a ticket. Even having a ticket didn't guarentee that you would get in. You have to stand outside for hours to get in and it's raining. If it was Obama, I would consider going there. Here is an interview she granted with the local news station. Sarah Palin interview Obama will also be in NH tomorrow and I plan on going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rakesh Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 http://palinaspresident.com/ Click around this website and make sure your speakers are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bandbfan Posted October 15, 2008 Members Share Posted October 15, 2008 Personally not a fan of Palin and her supporters, but I don't really think this is right either, especially if it's personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm having one of those moments that can be categorized as anyone deems fit but perhaps some of you remember the argument about Gwen Ifill's reference to her cousin being brilliant as something relevant. Am I way off in drawing the following parallel? and this is what the "wise" John Lewis had to say about McCain's campaign tactic: Should I conclude that because McCain thinks John Lewis is wise as Gwen Ifill thinks her cousin brilliant, that McCain should agree with what John Lewis said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tishy Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 Manchester Union Leader There will be more to this article tomorrow Dover – Although she did not mention Barack Obama’s ties to former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers during her speech at Dover High School today, Sarah Palin said afterward she would not hesitate to repeat on the stump that Obama is “palling around with terrorists.” “I’d use that term again in a heartbeat,” Palin said in an interview, “because, I’ll tell you, when you kick off your political career in the living room of an unrepentant, known domestic terrorist and then you continue that association with him via e-mails, phone calls, sitting on boards together, working on -- quote, unquote -- education reform together, characterizing that as ‘palling around,’ I would use that characterization again.” Ayers hosted a coffee for Obama when the Democratic presidential nominee ran first ran for the Illinois state Senate more than 10 years ago, and the two served together on the board of a charitable organization in Chicago. Palin said she has been the target of sexism on the campaign trail, but brushed it aside. “Of course, (some comments) have been sexist,” she said. “To talk about somebody’s figure or look or pregnancies or anything else, of course there’s a sexism there. But so what? I plow through that and go right to the issues and I talk about what is going to be good for America, in terms of the change that is needed here, with John McCain leading that change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 When McCain smiles I become afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 He's gonna eat you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnCCorinthos4ever Posted October 16, 2008 Members Share Posted October 16, 2008 I love Obama's reply to something that McCain said that Fox News cleared Obama of something that the Republicains acussed him of and that it's not to often that Fox New's say's somthing good about him. Hmm I wonder if McCain has any toilet paper near him with the crap that is coming out of his mouth about not running a dirty campagin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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