Barack Obama Elected President!

[Roman]

I just wanted this as a record, so you don't accuse me or anyone else of distorting what you said.

And also.......LOVED how you went in and edited the second post to take out some of the stuff you said. I guess now you'll act like you never said it, and question those to produce what you DID say.

You're a real piece of work, Casey.

[Wales2004]

GOP to file fundraising complaint against Obama

Associated Press/AP Online

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[Ryan]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081005/pl_nm/us_usa_politics

Obama accuses McCain of smear campaign

By Mark EganSun Oct 5, 3:16 PM ET

Democrat Barack Obama counterattacked on Sunday against a new Republican tactic by saying rival John McCain was more interested in a smear campaign than fixing the U.S. economy.

With McCain losing ground in opinion polls, a campaign strategist was quoted as saying the Republican presidential candidate needed to "turn the page" on the economic issue and make the election about Obama's experience and character.

That effort started on Saturday when Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists" in reference to his acquaintance with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Vietnam War-era militant Weather Underground.

Obama responded at the Republicans at a rally attended by more than 20,000 people in Asheville, North Carolina, a swing state where the Democratic presidential candidate was preparing for his second debate with McCain on Tuesday.

"Senator McCain and his operatives are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance," Obama said. "They'd rather try to tear our campaign down than lift this country up."

"It's what you do when you're out of touch, out of ideas and running out of time," he said a month before the November 4 election.

Obama's improvement in the polls was fueled by the public's perception that he can best handle the ailing economy. The Illinois senator tried to keep the focus on the economy and used the "turn the page" quote as a way of keeping the issue alive.

"We're facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and John McCain wants us to 'turn the page?'" he said in the Asheville remarks.

"Well, I know the policies he's supported these past eight years and wants to continue are pretty hard to defend. I can understand why Senator McCain would want to 'turn the page' and ignore this economy."

Then he poked fun at Palin's folksy way of speaking by saying: "We're not going to let John McCain distract us. We're not going to let him hoodwink ya, and bamboozle ya, we're not going to let him run the okie doke on ya."

NEW ADS

The Obama campaign released a new ad hitting McCain as erratic during the past two weeks of economic crisis, a reference that could be interpreted as subtle reminder of McCain's age. The Arizona senator, age 72, would be the oldest person elected president for the first time.

But McCain's supporters and his campaign did not back down. They pushed the issue of Obama's character on the Sunday television talk shows and defended linking Obama with Ayers.

"The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers," McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said.

Ayers was one of the leaders of the Weather Underground when it was involved in a series of bombings in the 1960s, when Obama was 8 years old. Obama met him in the 1990s when first starting his political career in Chicago and the two served on a board together.

Obama has said he knows Ayers, a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, only slightly and has denounced his actions with the Weather Underground.

Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida said on ABC's "This Week" it was not what Obama did when he was 8 but "what occurred when he was 35 - 38 years old and was initiating his political campaign."

"It's about his judgment and who he associated with during those years and right on into his political campaign," he said.

"It is fair game," Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut who supports McCain, said on "Fox News Sunday."

But Democrats responded that the Republicans were just trying to trivialize the race and take the spotlight off McCain and the economy."

"How ridiculous," Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri said on Fox. "American people deserve so much better."

"You have seen a 26-year Senate veteran morph into an angry, desperate candidate in the last few weeks, especially in the last few days," Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio told ABC. "And it just kind of makes me sad ... that John McCain and Sarah Palin are resorting to these tactics."

(Writing by David Wiessler; Editing by Doina Chiacu)

[Tishy]

Wow. I find this very saddening.

I could understand where McCain would dislike the people that held him captive and tortured him. Just the individuals who tortured him. Not the entire race! What happened to McCain is absolutely horrible and I would never, ever wish that on anyone. But it does not give him a free pass to say derogatory remarks about cretain races. And this is the man that you (plural usage) want as the President of the United States which is known as the melting pot? This is ridiculous.

When did this Presidential race stop being about the issues?

Just for shits and giggles, I will tell you where I stand on some important issues. Equal rights for all men and women regardless of religion, sexual orientation and age. Get the unemployment rate down so I can get a job which I blame Bush for taking care of that matter for me. Healthcare for every man, woman and child. Funding for domestic programs like education and fuel assistance. Getting out of Iraq and getting treatment for every soldier. Going into Afghanistan when we have the intel and get the bastard. Wake up Republicans, he's not in Iraq.

It's for these reasons why I will vote for Obama.

[Wales2004]

Obama ad links McCain to Keating scandal

Associated Press/AP Online

By CHARLES BABINGTON

[Kay]

ICAM! That's exactly my stance on all the issues! Never mind that fact that if we stop butting into other countries, they may just quit ramping up their nuke programs ('cause I'm sure they thought we'd be invading them next) and chill with the whole 'death to America" talk. Just a thought.

[Greg's GL]

So I'm catching up from yesterday evening....

I simply can't believe this [!@#$%^&*]. How can you justify McCain's racists remarks against these people? IA that it's horrible that he was held captive, but the entire race is not guilty of that against the man. To have the balls to stand up here and try to condone his behavior is just.....unbelievable. Honestly, I simply don't have the words to say what I'm feeling right now.

I understand you're a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, but there are things you can take a stand against with your candidate. It seems to me that racism would be one of those things!

The simple fact that Hannity is having a special show on Obama's "past" just proves what we have been saying in this thread over the last few weeks. Your ticket can not win the election on the issues. They have to use smear tactics and fear politics to get people over to their side. How can that make you feel good, Casey? How can you sit there and support this juvenile stupid [!@#$%^&*] when you have been one of the loudest voices (up until a couple weeks ago anyway) for discussion of the issues? I'd really like to hear what you have to say for yourself and your party.

True.

Roman, ICAM. It's just [!@#$%^&*] horrendous that someone in his position can get away saying some stupid [!@#$%^&*] like that and people like Casey will defend him! I think that's even worse. And I'll even go further by saying someone that would defend McCain for what he said thereby makes his supporters racsists by collusion. That's the way I'm feeling about this fucked up [!@#$%^&*] right now.

Adam

Great post.

[Greg's GL]

Here are more Republicans piling on the attack against Obama:

GOP Assails Obama For Negativity

And this quote from Diane Feinstein is so true:

<sigh>

[MoTheGreat]

Can ya'll get this?

Anti Palin Rally in her own state

http://www.ebonyjet.com/multimedia/gallery..._web/index.html

[Greg's GL]

Yeah, I could see it, Mo. Thanks for posting it!

[Greg's GL]

This is something fun to check out.

7-Elevens across the country are holding their "7-Election '08" campaign. When you visit a 7-11 and get a cup of coffee, you have option to choose either an Obama or McCain cup. Those results are tallied locally and nationwide.

At my local store, McCain is up 50-48. Even though we don't drink coffee, we got a couple of Obama cups yesterday while picking up some beer.

Here's a link to the 7-Election website. To see the national tally thus far, click on the "results" tab on the left of the screen. Currently, Obama is up 57% - 43%.

The website claims that "7-Election" voters have predicted the last two presidential campaigns.

7-Election 2008

[Darcy]

I hope it blows up in their face. I was never a member of any party until this election. The last election the Republican party turned me completely off with their reprehensible "Swiftboat" tactics and I knew they would start to pile it on Obama in the last month. So predictable. I wish someone on TV would have a special show on McCain's "past" - based on that article in Rolling Stone, I am now very worried of the possibility of this person becoming the POTUS.

[Greg's GL]

The Rolling Stone article was scary, eh? Thanks to UCLAN for the heads up on it.

IA that McCain's past should be the subject of some in-depth TV personality - perhaps Olbermann - and see what the reaction is, Darcy. I guarantee you that McCain's supporters will be howling from the rooftops about "the liberal media" and how the show "has nothing to do with the election".

I think someone like Olbermann should go for it, though. Palin says that "the heels are on and the gloves are off" so I say Obama should take the gloves off and grab an axe for their asses!

[Wales2004]

Within the body of this article you will see that McCain is proposing higher Medicare premiums for wealthier seniors. How is that any different from taxing wealthier people? The same people outraged with Obama's tax plan ought to be outraged by McCain's healthcare plan.

The Wall Street Journal

• OCTOBER 6, 2008

McCain Plans Federal Health Cuts

Medicare, Medicaid Spending Would Be Reduced to Offset Proposed Tax Credit

By LAURA MECKLER

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html

[Greg's GL]

Hmmmm. Interesting. Is this "class warfare" as has been argued by McCain supporters of Obama's tax plan?

McCain is going to raise Medicare premiums for weathier seniors, but he's also planning spending cuts to that program and Medicaid. Since mostly poorer Americans are dependent on Medicaid for some basic care, what will they do then? More of them are going to have to get private insurance to make up the difference. Since McCain's plan will also tax individual contributions to their health plans through their employer in order to give them a "tax credit", they will end up losing more.

For those on Medicaid that are not employed? They're fucked.

Anyway....back to the Medicare issue. Yes, it does sound like "class warfare" as defined by others earlier in the thread. At least it does to me.