This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

I was watching Rachel Maddow and she explained that they held presidential debates during the Iran hostage crisis, the Time Square bombings (Kennedy vs Nixon) and most recently days after the USS Cole bombing (Gore vs Bush). There is no reason they can't focus on the problems at hand and the debate which I'm sure would be reassuring to the American public at a time like this. It seems like a ploy to give Palin more time considering her extreme failure so far in interviews.

Well said Chris.

I was watching Rachel Maddow and she explained that they held presidential debates during the Iran hostage crisis, the Time Square bombings (Kennedy vs Nixon) and most recently days after the USS Cole bombing (Gore vs Bush). There is no reason they can't focus on the problems at hand and the debate which I'm sure would be reassuring to the American public at a time like this. It seems like a ploy to give Palin more time considering her extreme failure so far in interviews.

Obama and McCain are senators and representatives of their states. Their consituents have a stake in this matter...they have a job to do.

Reagan and Carter were not special ops that could have rescued the hostages...

Kennedy and Nixon were not first responders that could have directly made an impact during the Time Square bombings..

Gore and Bush were not soldiers serving on the USS Cole..

My point is that all of these other Presidential candidates did not have a responsibility that related directly to these other crisises! It's not the same at all..

Edited September 25, 200817 yr by Casey008

Obama should jsut show up and talk to the people. If McCain and Palin can't multi-task, then they shouldn't even be near the WH.

So you think Obama should skip the deliberations of the vote...to come talk to the people? So Obama can multitask in that he can be in Mississippi and Washington DC at the same time..? If he can do that..I will vote for him!

It's really the vote on the rescue bill that is dictating when the debates will occur.

It make sense to me to use the St. Louis venue that is already being set up for a debate on the 2nd..

It doesn't take all day to vote. What if Congress actually moved fast and there was a vote today or early tomorrow morning? I doubt McCain would go to the debate even then.

Well if that makes sense, wouldn't it make even more sense to have BOTH debates there on the same day?

Edited September 25, 200817 yr by bandbfan

So you think Obama should skip the deliberations of the vote...to come talk to the people? So Obama can multitask in that he can be in Mississippi and Washington DC at the same time..? If he can do that..I will vote for him!

That's good to hear! I'm glad you now feel he can walk and chew gum at the same time, something McCain cannot do.

Oh, and BTW.......it is now being reported that a deal is near. I would LOVE to see how McCain will explain how he went back to D.C. to do....

Nothing.

Obama and McCain are senators and representatives of their states. Their consituents have a stack in this matter...they have a job to do.

Reagan and Carter were not special ops that could have rescued the hostages...

Kennedy and Nixon were not first responders that could have directly made an impact during the Time Square bombings..

Gore and Bush were not soldiers serving on the USS Cole..

My point is that all of these other Presidential candidates did not have a responsibility that related directly to these other crisises! It's not the same at all..

Yes it is, and if you weren't so ready to play partisan politics with this whole thing, maybe I could listen to what you are saying.

But you have once again turned this into "Obama doesn't have the guts to do ABC..." and McCain is the one showing all the good judgement. He looks like a fool threatening to not show up at the deabte to vote on something now........especially since he hasn't showed up in over a year to vote on anything.

But NOW he's running for POTUS.......so all bets are off. I wonder if they were off when he lied to DL yesterday when he told that manhe was getting on a plane to head back to D.C.......but instead went on CBS News? I also wonder ifthat still stands now when he's giving a speech at the G.I.? I thought he suspended his campaign.......so why is he still asking for votes?

This guy is so FOS he could open his own fertilizer factory and be richer than he is now.....and with that money, he could buy a shithouse to go with the other 9 houses in 3 different time zones that he owns.

this whole thing form him stinks.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dot.comme...ins_gamble.html

That's good to hear! I'm glad you now feel he can walk and chew gum at the same time, something McCain cannot do.

Oh, and BTW.......it is now being reported that a deal is near. I would LOVE to see how McCain will explain how he went back to D.C. to do....

Nothing.

Walking and chewing and two different states at once..Obama is the "one"...

Would you call meeting with Congressional leaders and the President at the White House..doing nothing?

Edited September 25, 200817 yr by Casey008

Yes it is, and if you weren't so ready to play partisan politics with this whole thing, maybe I could listen to what you are saying.

But you have once again turned this into "Obama doesn't have the guts to do ABC..." and McCain is the one showing all the good judgement. He looks like a fool threatening to not show up at the deabte to vote on something now........especially since he hasn't showed up in over a year to vote on anything.

But NOW he's running for POTUS.......so all bets are off. I wonder if they were off when he lied to DL yesterday when he told that manhe was getting on a plane to head back to D.C.......but instead went on CBS News? I also wonder ifthat still stands now when he's giving a speech at the G.I.? I thought he suspended his campaign.......so why is he still asking for votes?

This guy is so FOS he could open his own fertilizer factory and be richer than he is now.....and with that money, he could buy a shithouse to go with the other 9 houses in 3 different time zones that he owns.

this whole thing form him stinks.

Roman you are right. I am the only one playing partisan here...you are so balanced in your view of McCain.

I never said anything about Obama's guts...

You need to check your facts on when the last time McCain voted...

It doesn't take all day to vote. What if Congress actually moved fast and there was a vote today or early tomorrow morning? I doubt McCain would go to the debate even then.

Well if that makes sense, wouldn't it make even more sense to have BOTH debates there on the same day?

It's not the actual vote that is time consuming..it's the deliberation and debating...

McCain has clearly stated that he will debate Obama, if a deal is reached...

Walking and chewing and two different states at once..Obama is the "one"...

Here's something with which I agree....total photo op:

Barney Frank: White House "Photo Op" Designed to Help McCain

September 25, 2008 7:11 AM

The chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chatted with reporters after the president's speech last night.

“I’m glad the president said what he said,” Frank said. “It’s not that making the speech was going to help, but failure to make a speech was probably hurting. In America, if you don’t hear from the president, it’s not a crisis.”

Frank says that House and Senate Democrats have agreed upon what should be in the Wall Street bailout legislation. This morning Frank, his Senate counterpart -- Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd, D-Conn. -- and top Republicans will meet to try to hammer out a final agreement. He was optimistic.

“All of a sudden, now that we’re on the verge of making a deal, John McCain drops himself in to make a deal," Frank said. "I really worry about this politicization of it."

"Frankly, we’re going to have to interrupt a negotiating session tomorrow between the Democrats and Republicans on a bill, where I think we’re getting pretty close, and troop down to the White House for their photo-op, and then come back and get on to it," Frank said.

“We’re trying to rescue the economy, not the McCain campaign,” he added.

- Jake Tapper and Dean Norland

Thank you for the article Wales

Edited September 25, 200817 yr by Ryan

It's not the actual vote that is time consuming..it's the deliberation and debating...

McCain has clearly stated that he will debate Obama, if a deal is reached...

BS. This whole thing.

If he wants to debate Obama, why did he say he wanted to postpone the debate? And why is he threateing not to go to Old Miss for the debate?