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Barack Obama Elected President!

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From Associated Press:

Pressed about what insights into recent Russian actions she gained by living in Alaska, Palin answered: "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

Is that a leftover answer from the beauty pagent?

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She did not know what the Bush Doctrine was. The worst thing about that, in my opinion, is that she tried to bluff her way out of it. :lol: :lol:

She did say that she knew a lot about Russia because Russia was a neighbor to Alaska. She said she could look out and see Russia.

My goodness.

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My goodness.

it was actually very funny. Charlie Gibson says, what is you opinion of the Bush Doctrine. And she looks bewildered and says, specifically what Charlie. And he says, the Bush Doctrine that Bush adopted in 2002 (I can't remember the exact date). So she rattls on something about Bush wanting to rid the world of terrorism and then says, and there were blunders along the way.

Gibson, and you can tell he is frustrated with her, says something to the effect of the Bush Doctrine allows pre-emptive strikes or something. It was just very funny.

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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jMtvzhU...MDl1-gD934QN4G0

Analysis: McCain's claims skirt facts, test voters

Thanks for posting that Roman. I found this part of the article very true to this campaign in particular:

Major news outlets have written such fact-checking articles for years. "But in the last two election cycles, the very notion that the facts matter seems to be under assault," said Michael X. Delli Carpini, an authority on political ads at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication. "Candidates and their consultants seem to have learned that as long as you don't back down from your charges or claims, they will stick in the minds of voters regardless of their accuracy or at a minimum, what the truth is will remain murky, a matter of opinion rather than fact."

Maybe she figured that the Alaskans would actually know better so why tell that lie to them?

So Charles Gibson had to tell her what the Bush Doctrine is.....too bad he won't tell her the definition of a lie. I guess I'm surprised that he didn't do the whole puff and fluff thing with her but he's super duper lite compared to what she probably would have gotten from Katie Couric.

My bf and I were watching the CBS Evening News the night the "lipstick" comment got blown out of proportion. And I have to tell you, CBS presented a very balanced report, IMO. They showed what Obama had said in context and then went on to report things that we were saying here - that McCain had used the same comment in referring to HRC's healthcare plan. And then reported something that I hadn't heard - that Mr. Cheney had used the same expression in 2004 on the campaign trail.

So I'm thinking that I might start watching CBS Evening News now. The report was very fair to both R's and D's.

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So I'm thinking that I might start watching CBS Evening News now. The report was very fair to both R's and D's.

In the past few weeks when i have wtaching any evening news, i have had it on CBS. They do seem to give the best balance and reporting of the facts.From what i have seen, so far, anyways.

I also prefer CNN over any other cable news.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26667449/

Obama Sharpens Attack.

Thanks for posting that Roman. I found this part of the article very true to this campaign in particular:

My bf and I were watching the CBS Evening News the night the "lipstick" comment got blown out of proportion. And I have to tell you, CBS presented a very balanced report, IMO. They showed what Obama had said in context and then went on to report things that we were saying here - that McCain had used the same comment in referring to HRC's healthcare plan. And then reported something that I hadn't heard - that Mr. Cheney had used the same expression in 2004 on the campaign trail.

So I'm thinking that I might start watching CBS Evening News now. The report was very fair to both R's and D's.

I saw a clip of that as well. CBS News maybe pissed because in one of McCain's ads, they used Katie Couric in it, and it she was NOT happy.

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it was actually very funny. Charlie Gibson says, what is you opinion of the Bush Doctrine. And she looks bewildered and says, specifically what Charlie. And he says, the Bush Doctrine that Bush adopted in 2002 (I can't remember the exact date). So she rattls on something about Bush wanting to rid the world of terrorism and then says, and there were blunders along the way.

Gibson, and you can tell he is frustrated with her, says something to the effect of the Bush Doctrine allows pre-emptive strikes or something. It was just very funny.

And, watching Morning Joe, they made her seem like a superheroine, a woman who can take on anything and come on top.

Did she really say she could see Russia from an island in Alaska? Well hell, I can see Ill. from the banks of the Mississippi in downtown St. Louis.

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And, watching Morning Joe, they made her seem like a superheroine, a woman who can take on anything and come on top.

Did she really say she could see Russia from an island in Alaska? Well hell, I can see Ill. from the banks of the Mississippi in downtown St. Louis.

IMO she did not do a very good job with the interview. She certainly did not come off as a woman ready to be President. I will give her this - she's very charasmatic. The press will eat that up and probably ignore her problems in answering some of the questions. <sigh>

Yeah, she said that after Gibson asked her if she had any "insights" into the recent goings-on in Russia. Perhaps she thought "insight" was the same as "seeing" Russia? I dunno.

The Dems can not keep letting the sound bites and SP keep them off their message. Hopefully Obama will tighten things up and bring the campaign back to the issues. The print media, at least, is still interested in the issues.

The sheen of SP will wear off soon enough. The polls are already reflecting that the RNC bounce won't last long. Sooner or later, the Repubs are going to have to get back to what the campaign should be about - issues.

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IMO she did not do a very good job with the interview. She certainly did not come off as a woman ready to be President. I will give her this - she's very charasmatic. The press will eat that up and probably ignore her problems in answering some of the questions. <sigh>

Yeah, she said that after Gibson asked her if she had any "insights" into the recent goings-on in Russia. Perhaps she thought "insight" was the same as "seeing" Russia? I dunno.

The Dems can not keep letting the sound bites and SP keep them off their message. Hopefully Obama will tighten things up and bring the campaign back to the issues. The print media, at least, is still interested in the issues.

The sheen of SP will wear off soon enough. The polls are already reflecting that the RNC bounce won't last long. Sooner or later, the Repubs are going to have to get back to what the campaign should be about - issues.

Are the polls starting to tighten once again? That's what I thought.

Obama needs to get his head out of his ass and start blasting McCain on the issues and the gutter politics. I tink what one of the points may beis to prove that Obama is just another politician by going after him.

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CBS News : The good, the bad and the ugly : Palin, False Rumors and An Odd Ad

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/...in4442864.shtml

This is an interesting article. But the comments from readers are downright scary. Rumors (still) that Obama is a radical muslim and will disband the military. :wacko::wacko:

And that is the reason we keep electing these idiots for public office, because american voters spend more time on this bullshit than they do actually following the issues.

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Commentary: The Sarah Palin smear-fest

By Glenn Beck // CNN

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Campaigns are ugly. Watching the way politicians act makes you long for the respect and self-control of the Sopranos. Throughout, there are legitimate attacks and outright lies.

Every once in a while, I get a call on my radio show from someone telling me that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim, who admitted it in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, and has a fake birth certificate. No, no, and no. As I tell them, there are legitimate reasons not to vote for Barack Obama, no need to make them up.

But the newest target is Sarah Palin. Let's take a quick look at just a fraction of what she has faced in her first few days as John McCain's choice for vice president. iReport.com: Do you think Palin is being treated unfairly?

"Sarah Palin believes God told her to go to war with Iraq!"

There has been some hard-core journalistic malpractice on this one. The Associated Press ran this headline about a speech she gave at her church: "Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'"

In the story, they omit the first part of the sentence they're quoting along with the entire previous sentence for good measure.

Here are her actual words: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Palin is clearly praying that we're doing the right thing in Iraq, something sensible for an introspective woman of faith concerned about the lives of our troops to do. She's not saying that she just received a text message from heaven's BlackBerry ordering her to launch missiles. Sorry to disappoint you.

And for those of you who think politicians asking God for guidance is offensive, might I remind you of this famous politician's prayer:

"Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will." --Barack Obama

"She has no experience!"

It's fair to assume that Barack Obama believed he was qualified to be in the White House when he announced he was running for president. At that point, he had been a U.S. Senator for 767 days. When Sarah Palin was announced as a vice presidential candidate, she had been the governor of Alaska for 634 days.

While I'm sure those extra 133 days were filled with personal discovery, I can't imagine anyone seriously trying to make the case that Obama is experienced and Palin isn't.

Unless, of course, you're Matt Damon, who said a Palin presidency would be a really "scary thing" because she has been "governor of Alaska for...for less than two years!" (Damon originally expressed his presidential preference for Obama in December 2006, when he had been a senator for less than two years.)

More importantly, Palin's career has been filled with executive experience. She's the only one of the four in this race who has run a business, town, and/or state (a state that gives her crucial energy experience in the middle of an energy crisis).

When Obama's campaign complains that Palin would be one heartbeat away from the presidency, they should consider that their candidate would be zero heartbeats away.

"But Obama is running a huge campaign -- Palin was just a small town mayor!"

Believe it or not, this one was actually trotted out by Obama himself.

"My understanding is, is that Gov. Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We've got 2,500 in this campaign. I think the budget is maybe $12 million a year. We have a budget of about three times that just for the month."

Apparently, Barack missed that she's become the governor of Alaska in the interim. Why would he compare his current duties with her former duties?

Well, since he announced his candidacy, Barack Obama has raised about $22 million a month. That's a large organization for sure, unless you are directly comparing it to Sarah Palin, who is handling state revenues that are about 61 times as large, or more than $1.3 billion per month.

"Palin only supports abstinence to be taught in sex-ed!"

This claim is usually followed by a super classy comment about her daughter and the use of contraception, but the premise is false. Palin hasn't said she doesn't want condoms discussed in sex-ed, calling their discussion "relatively benign."

"I'm pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don't have a problem with that," Palin said. Hers is hardly an extreme point of view in America today.

"If she cares about children with special needs, then why did she cut spending on them by 62 percent?"

Actually, Palin almost tripled their funding in only three years from $26,900 per student to $73,840 per student.

Incidentally, the amount of government money you spend on a specific group doesn't equal the amount you care for that group, but that's another story for another column.

All of these represent just a small percentage of the bizarre collection of claims being thrown at Palin by her opponents and some in the media -- who are desperately hoping something will stick. I leave you with my favorite so far: The Internet rumors that she harbors racism against Eskimos. If true, she sure has a strange way of expressing it -- her husband, Todd, is half Yupik Inuit Eskimo.

To balance that out, she must really love his other half.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/

Edited by JackPeyton

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