But, I truly don't think CD wil win the Heisman. You see how the rankings go from week to week. He'll get screwed out of it somehow.

The Bears win shocked methe most. Those guys must really jell with that starting QB they have up there. And, I don't think TB being outis that huge. I didn't pick them to win the division anyway this year.

Well of course he won't win the Heisman! They are already etching "Knowshon Moreno" on that bad boy! hehe

Well of course he won't win the Heisman! They are already etching "Knowshon Moreno" on that bad boy! hehe

Forget you.

:lol: :lol:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/09/campaign.wrap/

If this has been posted before, I'm sorry.

Ok. Kinda harsh.

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_...mccain-and.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26625240/

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/09/b...cynthia-tucker/

These motherfuckers go on vacation as much as Bush does!

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/a...0,3680612.story

But why would a candidate do that? It gives credence to the commentators. They are only "legitimate" to the American people because the candidates pander to them. McCain and Obama should grant interviews to the legitimate press and let the commentators claw their critiques from reviewing sound bytes created by the folks that went to journalism school and believe in the importance of impartiality in news reporting. I would get a heck of a lot more information from Brit Hume asking Barack Obama his military plan going forward in Iraq and how he plans to execute that plan than I would from Freakshow Bill screaming at Obama to admit he was wrong about the troop surge. Am I wrong?

Honestly, I miss the days when we didn't know the political affliliations of any news anchor. I miss the days when shows were clearly distinguished as a newscast and political opinion was clearly political opinion. That line has been blurred too much and contributes to the "us" and "them" mentality that is destroying American politics. The irony of the whole thing is that there are similarities with candidates and their positions but people see "republican" or "democrat" first and automatically from that point the average voter picks a side and everything the other side says is wrong EVEN IF IT IS THE EXACT SAME THING. Nobody listens to anybody and it's all based on a party label.

I know I sound a little kumbaya here but I think it's valid. It's time for us to stop demonizing the "other" side. Commentators are fabulous at doing just that and the American people accept it as news. It hurts my heart to see it.

I agree with what you've stated. I was prompted to drop party affiliations when I started to pay better attention to candidates and their messages. This is the first election year that I've paid any attention to political shows. I used to watch one or two here and there to mainly here the disagreements.

Many people probably get their info from local and/or national tv and radio news, tv and/or radio ads and discussions with other people. I think the cable shows as do the radio talk shows, attract like minded viewers/listeners and it does unfortunately lead to closed minds since a lot of those hosts probably spout off a lot of empty and inflammatory rhetoric.

This time around the thing that has bothered me most hasn't been the usual partisan posturing, it's been the deliberate attempts to paint Barack Obama as "something" foreign, exotic, and dangerous and "not one of us." I only hope that it doesn't disillusion the young people who have taken interest and part in this election process.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/09/campaign.wrap/

If this has been posted before, I'm sorry.

Well I hadn't seen it so thanks. I'm glad something is being said on education.

First the families of the low income kids would have to be able to afford a computer and the internet for the technology portion to benefit them.

Really? You find SP more likable than Hilary?

No I don't like SP personally, but she is more likeable, there is a level of hillary hate that is so unbelievable that people can't even give you a real reason why they hate her. When the liberals start having SP hate collectibles at their conventions then she will be on hillary's level.

No I don't like SP personally, but she is more likeable, there is a level of hillary hate that is so unbelievable that people can't even give you a real reason why they hate her. When the liberals start having SP hate collectibles at their conventions then she will be on hillary's level.

I think the Hillary hate is irrational. I also think a great deal of the SP love is, oh look at our Hillary. In my opinion, Palin is like the two-headed cow -- a novelty -- and that will wear off quick. The election will be about McCain and Obama. In my opinion, Obama is the better candidate and I think he would appoint a great staff and Cabinet. I also think, in spite of conventional wisdom, the worse the economy, the less Obama's chance of winning. I think when people get scared, they will go for a grandpa figure even if they think Obama might be better. In that regard, Palin will be a disincentive.

Obama says McCain-Palin change mantra is like "lipstick on a pig"

This is getting ridiculous.

Obama is not helping his cause. I thought he was above this kind of stuff..

Palin Camp Takes Umbrage at 'Lipstick on a Pig' Comment

By Anne E. Kornblut and Michael Shear

Sen. Barack Obama on Tuesday said that Sen. John McCain's claim that he will shake up Washington after agreeing with President Bush for so long is like "putting lipstick on a pig" -- a common turn of phrase, one that Obama has used for years and one that even some Republicans have been known to utter.

But to the McCain campaign, this was an example of unbridled sexism. "Sen. Obama ... uttered what I can only describe to be disgusting comments, comparing our vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, to a pig," former Mass. governor Jane Swift declared in a burst of outrage.

On a conference call with reporters, Swift, the newly designated chair of the "Palin Truth Squad," demanded that Obama apologize -- and said, when pressed, that he must have been talking about Palin because she is the only one of the four candidates who wears lipstick.

Swift said it was an obvious reference to Palin's convention speech line about hockey moms and pit bulls, in which Palin said the only difference was lipstick.

There was one glaring problem with the argument: McCain himself used the exact same phrase to describe Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan just last year. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," McCain said in October of 2007, describing Clinton's universal health care plan when she was running in the Democratic primary. He also, in February 2007, used the phrase to describe conflict over a resolution on the Iraq War. "It gets down to whether you support what is being done in this new strategy or you don't," McCain said at the time. "You can put lipstick on a pig, [but] it's still a pig, in my view."

And the phrase is a common one, so much so that Torie Clarke, the former Pentagon communications director in the Bush administration -- a Republican and a woman -- named her book "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in a No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game."

The Democratic National Committee has also used the expression in the recent pre-Palin period to describe the McCain campaign, labeling his efforts to address the economy "lipstick on a pig" just over two months ago.

That did not stop Swift from taking extreme umbrage that Obama would use such wording, which she likened to the kind of language most often heard on a children's playground.

"Calling a very prominent female governor a pig is not what we want," Swift said, describing Obama's comments as "offensive."

Four reporters were allowed to pose questions on the call, and three of them were from women who asked, with obvious incredulity, whether Swift honestly believed that Obama meant to literally compare Palin to a kind of livestock. When one reporter asked Swift why she assumed the remarks were directed at Palin, Swift replied: "It seemed to me a gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race."

"As far as I know, she's the only one of the four -- the presidential and vice presidential candidates -- who wears lipstick," Swift said

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Thanks for that, Wales.

Oh shut up McCain. Ann Richards, a woman, used that exact same phrase at the keynote speech in 1988, The phrase is, you can put lipstick and mascara on a pig and call her Monique, but she is still a pig. The first time I heard that phrase was from Jim Hightower, former agriculture commissioner of Texas.

Stop whining McCain. And stop whining McCain supporters.

Edited September 10, 200817 yr by Jess