Members Roman Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Has she apologized for what she said yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 And notice something as well........unlike the Clinton campaign, has anyone from the Obama campaign said one word about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Nope. Obviously she feels she didn't say anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 Yes, I guess the SDs will be flocking to her now. All the ones that wear white sheets and white hoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted May 9, 2008 Members Share Posted May 9, 2008 They just speculated that Ted Kennedy offered himself up as scapegoat if Obama doesn't want her on the ticket. It's fun to think about, but there are so many obstacles, and Ted Kennedy isn't buying, he said on Bloomberg Television's "Political Capital With Al Hunt," which airs this weekend. "I don't think it's possible," he told Hunt of the joint ticket, continuing that: Obama should choose a running mate who "is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people," Kennedy said. "If we had real leadership -- as we do with Barack Obama -- in the No. 2 spot as well, it'd be enormously helpful." Ouch. UPDATE: Kennedy spokesman Anthony Coley says in a statement: Senator Kennedy thinks Senator Clinton is more than qualified to be Vice President, but doesn't think it's likely given the tenor of the campaign in recent weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080509/pl_politico/14784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Southofnowhere Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 Obama's peeps are under strict orders to keep their traps shut. The plan seems to be is for Obama to set back let Hillar take WR (which everybody knows she'll win and then win his 2 states and then give Hillary a week or so and hopefully have enough SD's come to him so he can declare himself or have someone else to declare him the winner. Everyone trying to be nice but it's time for Hillary to call it off. If she won't it's going to get nasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 How do I use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 It would be very foolish of Obama to not pick her as VP since a lot of her supporters will go for McCain (I am not one of them)....I think, at the ABC debate, it was decided since it appeared that they already worked out a deal to run together. The question is HOW will the ticket appear...him on top or her? This is as suspenseful as a soap Call me crazy or not but Hillary just wrote a letter to Obama talking about negotiating an agreement where Michigan and Florida would be counted...what if Obama agrees to count them and lets her win so she can pick him as VP, per this possible agreement they have? That could have been the plan all along. Am I crazy or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'd like to know how to use it too. A lot of us don't use it, I don't know why it came up all of a sudden. I like Bill Richardson for VP. I also like Wesley Clark. I think him being a big Clinton supporter should not matter. The last thing we want to do is shut the Clintonistis out of the process once the primary is over. You know AMC, I think Obama is giving Hillary enough rope to hang herself and she is grabbing that rope. Finally, I think the primary is over. It would be in Hillary's best interest to shut up and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 I only said something b/c I was getting reported posts about it. You can click on the button that says "quote" for each post you want to reply to, then click "add reply" and you can respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 You've confused me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yes. You are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 From the Moderate Voice: Clinton Supporters’ Demanding Emails To Superdelegates May Be Backfiring (UPDATED) May 9th, 2008 by JOE GANDELMAN, Editor-In-Chief The Huffington Post’s Sam Stein reports that supporters of Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton who comment on the pro-Clinton blog Taylor Marsh got ahold of an email list and have been emailing demanding, even angry, emails to superdelegates — and there are signs that some superdelegates are now very unhappy campers: As the Democratic primary nears its long-awaited conclusion, undecided superdelegates have been drowned under a sudden deluge of angry, sometimes vicious emails from Hillary Clinton supporters urging them to not fall in line behind Barack Obama. The letter writing campaign picked up steam late Thursday evening when several superdelegates confirmed that a coordinated effort had been launched, apparently independent of Clinton’s campaign, to raise last-minute concerns about Obama’s candidacy and present the specter of voter defections should the Illinois Democrat become the nominee. [uPDATE: Marsh has responded to the HP piece with a long post of her own blasting the report and stressing that she had nothing to do with what her readers decided to do. It begins: I in no way have anything whatsoever to do with the narrative being pushed in Sam Stein’s post over at Huffington Post. Stop. Whatever my readers are doing is their business. I am in no way involved. Stop. Read it in its entirety. FOOTNOTE: Marsh has been a contributor to the Huffington Post herself.] Back to the Huffington Post: In more than dozen messages sent yesterday evening and shared with The Huffington Post, supporters of Clinton emailed a laundry list of political and exceedingly personal attacks on Obama’s candidacy, including criticisms of his prior associations and claims that he, not Clinton, had played the race card. The letters underscore the high emotional pitch of the late stage Democratic primary as well as the utter conviction among many supporters of both campaigns that their candidate is solely worthy of the nomination. So have the letters made many superdelegates see the light and decide to announce that they’ll support Clinton — even though Clinton at this point isn’t ahead in the number of pledged delegates, the popular vote, campaign funding collections or even (by ABC’s recent claim) superdelegates? Not quite: Such campaigns targeting superdelegates have mostly been avoided out of fear that the party officials would react negatively to outside pressure. And at least four superdelegates on the receiving end of yesterday’s emails suggested that they did more harm to Clinton’s cause than good. In one exchange, Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s campaign manager and a stalwart of the Democratic Party, responded with frustration to a writer’s threats of defection. “Honestly, this is the 9th email today,” she wrote before 8:00 pm. “So I believe you’re ready to not only destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights. Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non-stop tax cuts to the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq. Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it.” The Clinton campaign did not return a request for comment as to whether it was behind the email campaign. That last sentence means the Clinton campaign (a) is trying to figure out how to defuse this without alienating its committed supporters (whom students of politics could consider need to be committed for sending less than respectful emails to superdelegates who are their last hope), ( doesn’t want to give this more publicity, © tacitly supports the effort. Stein gives readers a bit of feedback on how some superdelegates are reacting to this new form of abusive political spam: At least two other party insiders wrote the Huffington Post expressing concern over the scope (”I’ve received emails like this for weeks but tonight it started in mass) and negativity of some of the Obama attacks, including one red-state Democrat: “I spent my entire life in the two reddest states in the entire U.S. so please excuse me if I fail to discern the nuances of the arguments sent my way this evening in what appears to be an orchestrated campaign to intimidate the remaining unpledged delegates by threatening to leave the party and vote for a third Bush term if I and others like me don’t vote for Sen. Clinton,” wrote the exasperated superdelegate. “I have been uncommitted throughout this campaign because I wanted to see how the candidates performed in a variety of settings. I am proud of them both. But I am horrified by this effort to threaten votes for McCain if super delegates don’t vote for Sen. Clinton. I have received hundreds of emails from both sides - but I can say without exception that I have not received a single email from an Obama supporter that threatened a vote for McCain if I didn’t support Sen. Obama. You really ought to be ashamed.” If you look at what is going on now: –Hillary Clinton created a controversy with her comments about being a better candidate because she appeals more to white voters. –Bill Clinton will get lots of play (and some who see it will agree with him) in his latest public burst of anger. –Paul Begala raised eyebrows by saying “”Obama can’t win with just the eggheads and African-Americans…” (OOPS! There goes the Humpty Dumpty vote..) –Clinton supporters are flooding superdelegates with threatening emails. They seem to forget that politics also involves trying to persuade, not just intimidate. Bill Clinton often talked about wanting to build a “bridge to the 21st century.” But, increasingly, the Clinton camp seems as if in terms of common sense political coalition building, it’s trying to burn its bridges in the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 Okay I got it now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 10, 2008 Members Share Posted May 10, 2008 1. Where is this proof that these two have cut a deal? You keep mentioning this and have not produced one link to anywhere supporting this claim. 2. What is this thing that he is the one who has to constantly take a back seat to her? SHE LOST! It's over. And after the crap she said in USAToday, he would be a damn fool to ave her on a traffic ticket much less giving her a VP spot. She doesn't deserve it. Not one damn bit. I mean, this amazes me. The candidate with the most PDs, most SDs, most states won, and the one leading in the popular vote is only good enough to be Vice President, but theperson who finished SECOND should be president? And since it has now been proven that Obama will do better against McCain than she will, why are we still having this argument? Hillary is as dead as The Emperor at the end of ROTJ. It's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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