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Many people (disco people) list Rock Your Baby as the first true disco hit even though it's debated by others...

I'm a disco freak--though I tend ot like the long obscure eurodisco tracks (alec Costandinos' Romeo and Juliette anyone?) with a soft spot for anythign Donna Summer did with the equally brilliant Moroder

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Eric, thanks a lot for commenting. Given how much you like disco, you'll be glad to hear that so much of it will be present in the next several installments of number one hits. I'd really like to know if any of these upcoming disco songs are among your favorites. I'd also be interested to know which lesser-known disco songs (in your opinion) should have reached #1.

1974 (Part 4 of 4):

384. I Can Help--Billy Swan (2 weeks, November 23)

385. Kung Fu Fighting--Carl Douglas (2 weeks, December 7)

386. Cat's in the Cradle--Harry Chapin (1 week, December 21)

387. Angie Baby--Helen Reddy (1 week, December 28)

1975 (Part 1 of 3):

388. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds--Elton John (2 weeks, January 4)

389. Mandy--Barry Manilow (1 week, January 18)

390. Please Mr. Postman--The Carpenters (1 week, January 25)

391. Laughter in the Rain--Neil Sedaka (1 week, February 1)

392. Fire--The Ohio Players (1 week, February 8)

393. You're No Good--Linda Ronstadt (1 week, February 15)

394. Pick Up the Pieces--The Average White Band (1 week, February 22)

395. Best of My Love--The Eagles (1 week, March 1)

396. Have You Never Been Mellow--Olivia Newton-John (1 week, March 8)

397. Black Water--The Doobie Brothers (1 week, March 15)

398. My Eyes Adored You--Frankie Valli (1 week, March 22)

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*The songs in this installment of number one hits are a vast improvement from those in the last couple of batches. Of course, that's because 1975 was so much better than 1974 when it came to pop music.

*"I Can Help" is a great song that captures the magic of rock and roll's early years.

*"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was originally recorded by the Beatles, who placed it on their "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" album.

*Barry Manilow's first hit, "Mandy," was originally titled "Brandy." The song's title was changed in order to ensure that people would not confuse this song with "Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)," which had been a #1 hit for Looking Glass in 1972.

*The Carpenters' version of "Please Mr. Postman" marked the second time that particular song hit #1, as the Marvelettes originally took the song to the top way back in 1961.

*The most remarkable musical comeback of 1975 undoubtedly belonged to Neil Sedaka, given that "Laughter in the Rain" was his first major hit in a dozen years. The person responsible for this comback was none other than Elton John, who decided to release "Laughter in the Rain" on his own label, Rocket Records. (I always get a chuckle over this given how very different John and Sedaka sound from each other.)

*Although "You're No Good" was her only #1 hit, Linda Ronstadt had three #2 singles: "When Will I Be Loved," "Somewhere Out There" (performed alongside James Ingram), and "Don't Know Much" (performed alongside Aaron Neville).

*My favorite instrumental from the 70's would have to be "Pick Up the Pieces" by the Average White Band. This song can be heard in one of my very favorite movies--"Superman II"--during a scene when the three Kryptonian villians (General Zod, Ursa, and Non) roam through a bar in rural Idaho.

*Although (as I stated earlier) Neil Sedaka had the most unlikely comeback in 1975, Frankie Valli would definately be a close second. Valli's previous hit singles came back in 1967, when he had a solo hit with "Can't Take My Eyes Off You," and his group--The Four Seasons--scored with "C'mon Marianne." In 1975, not only did Valli have a huge solo hit with "My Eyes Adored You," but the Four Seasons also had a smash hit with "Who Loves You" (which peaked at #3.)

*In case you didn't notice this, note that the last ten songs in this installment all spent only one week at #1. Actually, this streak is not over, given that the first two songs in the next batch also were number one for just one week. This combined total of twelve consecutive songs spending just one week at number one is easily an all-time record (in chart history) for such an occurrence to have happened.

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Eric, knock yourself out! We don't mind going back and we're interested in your comments!!

I didn't really realize it until you pointed it out: I Can Help does sound "early rock 'n roll." It's pretty catchy too.

Kung Fu Fighting is one of those silly songs that I have to admit that I absolutely loved! There's something very infectious about it.

Laughter in the Rain: I hated it when it came out and only recently did I come to realize that despite the sappy sentiment of the lyrics, Sedaka does a very nice vocal performance on this song. In fact, the vocal is beautiful.

The Ohio Players track smokes, no pun intended, and it's sexy as hell.

Love the vocal performance on You're No Good. One of her best.

Pick Up the Pieces - what a great record that was. I might even go download that one as a ringtone, LOL. It's awesome!

Blackwater was just incredible. It has a wonderful down-home feel to it without sounding country or corny.

The next segment will begin with Lady Marmalade and those three women who could belt their asses off!!

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Sorry that it has been so long since my last update. Unfortunately, prior to today, I had been experiencing technical problems with SON (for the past few weeks). I'd like to thank the hard working SON staff for fixing all of these problems.

1975 (Part 2 of 3):

399. Lady Marmalade--Labelle (1 week, March 29)

400. Lovin' You--Minnie Riperton (1 week, April 5)

401. Philadelphia Freedom--The Elton John Band (2 weeks, April 12)

402. (Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song--B.J. Thomas (1 week, April 26)

403. He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)--Tony Orlando & Dawn (3 weeks, May 3)

404. Shining Star--Earth, Wind, & Fire (1 week, May 24)

405. Before the Next Teardrop Falls--Freddy Fender (1 week, May 31)

406. Thank God I'm a Country Boy--John Denver (1 week, June 7)

407. Sister Golden Hair--America (1 week, June 14)

408. Love Will Keep Us Together--The Captain & Tennille (4 weeks, June 21)

409. Listen to What the Man Said--Wings (1 week, July 19)

410. The Hustle--Van McCoy & the Soul City Symphony (1 week, July 26)

411. One of These Nights--The Eagles (1 week, August 2)

412. Jive Talkin'--The Bee Gees (2 weeks, August 9)

413. Fallin' in Love--Hamilton, Joe Frank, & Reynolds (1 week, August 23)

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*Labelle's disco classic, "Lady Marmalade," went to #1 again in 2001 via a cover version by Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya, and Pink.

*Because she possessed a five-octave vocal range, the lovely Minnie Riperton was able to sing musical notes that few others could. Tragically, Riperton's career was cut short when she died of lymph cancer in 1979. Her talented daughter, Maya Rudolph, is currently a cast member of "Saturday Night Live."

*Tony Orlando & Dawn's "He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)" was a cover of a 1960 record by Jerry Butler. However, Butler's original version (which I prefer over Orlando's cover) was titled "He Will Break Your Heart," despite the fact that these words were never sung in the recording.

*The distinctive harmonies of Earth, Wind, & Fire make them one of my favorite disco groups. I believe that the group was originally going to be called "Earth, Air, & Fire" (after three of the planet's elements), but the group decided to replace "Air" with "Wind."

*"Before the Next Teardrop Falls" by Freddy Fender has to be one of the most beautifully romantic songs I have ever heard.

*Spending four weeks at number one, "Love Will Keep Us Together" was the most popular song of 1975. The recording also built upon the great success Neil Sedaka had during that year, given the fact that he co-wrote the song.

*Because Paul McCartney has a relatively modest ego (by rock music standards), he originally decided to call his post-Beatles group (simply) "Wings." However, given the lack of commercial success of early Wings singles, the name was changed to "Paul McCartney & Wings" for a couple of years. By 1975--when "Listen to What the Man Said" was released--the group had achieved stardom and, as a result, the name was shortened back to just "Wings."

*Like Minnie Riperton, Van McCoy's career was cut short due to a premature death. In McCoy's case, the cause of death was a heart attack.

*After a successful career in the late-60's and early-70's (which included a number one hit), the Bee Gees all of a sudden faded away. It was not until "Jive Talkin'" was released when the Bee Gees' second--and much more successful--career finally began.

*Although Hamilton, Joe Frank, & Reynolds scored their biggest hit with "Fallin' in Love," my favorite song of theirs is "Don't Pull Your Love," which peaked at #4 in 1971.

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It's nice to be back!!

Riperton had a beautiful voice. I kind of wish it wasn't wasted on a sap-fest like Lovin' You, but she makes it pay off.

I adore Earth Wind and Fire. They are great musicians and they had some fabulous material.

The Hustle can be easily dismissed as just another disco tune, but it has some amazing elements to it. The melodies are well layered and the fact that McCoy wrote the entire song in about a half hour is pretty astounding.

I've heard too many people to count try to sing the Denver track during karaoke. That is a hard song to sing! It's a great, catchy number.

Jive Talkin' is one of my favorite songs by the Bee Gees. And they were just getting warmed up.

The next segment should begin with Get Down Tonight, by KC and the Sunshine Band.

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That's unbelievable that "The Hustle" was written in just 30 minutes.

1975 (Part 3 of 3):

414. Get Down Tonight--KC & the Sunshine Band (1 week, August 30)

415. Rhinestone Cowboy--Glen Campbell (2 weeks, September 6)

416. Fame--David Bowie (2 weeks, September 20)

417. I'm Sorry--John Denver (1 week, September 27)

418. Bad Blood--Neil Sedaka (3 weeks, October 11)

419. Island Girl--Elton John (3 weeks, November 1)

420. That's the Way (I Like It)--KC & the Sunshine Band (2 weeks, November 22)

421. Fly, Robin, Fly--Silver Convention (3 weeks, November 29)

422. Let's Do It Again--The Staple Singers (1 week, December 27)

1976 (Part 1 of 3):

423. Saturday Night--The Bay City Rollers (1 week, January 3)

424. Convoy--C.W. McCall (1 week, January 10)

425. I Write the Songs--Barry Manilow (1 week, January 17)

426. Theme from "Mahogany" (Do You Know Where You're Going To)--Diana Ross (1 week, January 24)

427. Love Rollercoaster--The Ohio Players (1 week, January 31)

428. 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover--Paul Simon (3 weeks, February 7)

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*Glen Campbell was a one-time member of the Champs (an instrumental group); however, he was not part of that group when they reached #1 with "Tequila" in 1958. Campbell also had a long solo career prior to "Rhinestone Cowboy," given that his first charted single occurred back in 1961.

*David Bowie's "Fame" is undoubtedly one of the first New Wave songs to have become a hit. Another such song would have to be 1975's "Autobahn" by Kraftwerk.

*"I'm Sorry" by John Denver is unusual in that the single's flip side--"Calypso"--became a huge hit in its own right: The week after "I'm Sorry" hit #1, "Calypso" overtook it in popularity and would begin a four week stay at #2.

*Although KC & the Sunshine Band scored five number one hits, only "That's the Way (I Like It)" spent more than a week at #1.

*The Bay City Rollers had scored a series of hits that harkened back to early rock and roll. (Aside from "Saturday Night," I also really like their cover version of Dusty Springfield's "I Only Want to Be with You.") Although the group was from the UK, they chose to name themselves after Bay City, Michigan (after one of the group's members had randomly put a pin on a map, and the pin landed on Bay City). Interestingly, Bay City, Michigan was also where AW took place until sometime in the 1980's, when that soap decided to relocate Bay City to the state of Illinois. And in real life, note that Bay City, Michigan was where Madonna was born.

*Part of "Convoy" was recorded via C.W. McCall talking into a CB radio (which was a fad that reached the peak of its popularity in 1976).

*I must say that I am no fan of Barry Manilow. By the way, Manilow did not write "I Write the Songs" (or any of his other number one hits, for that matter).

*Surprisingly, "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" was Paul Simon's only solo number one hit. Three years earlier, Simon had two #2 hits: "Kodachrome" and "Loves Me Like a Rock."

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KC and the Sunshine Band had some great material. Their songs were always so full sounding and it's because they did not rely on synthesizers - they used real horns, guitars, drums, etc.

To be honest, I'm surprised Fame went to number one but only in the sense that it really didn't sound like anything else on the radio at the time. Perhaps that contributed to it's success.

I thought Bad Blood was very well done. Two legendary voices on one record could hardly miss - oh wait, Ebony and Ivory is coming up in the 80's, LOL. But Elton and Sedaka sounded awesome together and the song itself was pretty good.

Fly Robin Fly is another one of those intrumental disco tunes that had a great melody. I loved this song actually. I'm not positive but I think the song uses real string instruments. That strings melody is what I love about this song.

CW McCall was a commercial actor and wrote a jingle for a bread company commercial. Convoy emerged from that. Pretty innovative for that time but sounds kind of hokey now.

Love Rollercoaster is hot! And the Red Hot Chili Peppers did a wonderful remake of it.

I may be starting to lose it.... I think the next segment starts with the Theme from S.W.A.T., followed by the Miracles' Love Machine.

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Im-n-a-whirl, I completely agree with your assessment of "Ebony and Ivory." And as always, you were correct in your predictions as to which songs would come up first in this installment. (And I must say that it was extremely hard to remember that "Theme from 'S.W.A.T.'" starts off this batch of number one hits.)

1976 (Part 2 of 3):

429. Theme from "S.W.A.T."--The Rhythm Heritage (1 week, February 28)

430. Love Machine (Part 1)--The Miracles (1 week, March 6)

431. December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)--The Four Seasons (3 weeks, March 13)

432. Disco Lady--Johnnie Taylor (4 weeks, April 3)

433. Let Your Love Flow--The Bellamy Brothers (1 week, May 1)

434. Welcome Back--John Sebastian (1 week, May 8)

435. Boogie Fever--The Sylvers (1 week, May 15)

436. Silly Love Songs--Wings (5 weeks, May 22)

437. Love Hangover--Diana Ross (2 weeks, May 29)

438. Afternoon Delight--The Starland Vocal Band (2 weeks, July 10)

439. Kiss and Say Goodbye--The Manhattans (2 weeks, July 24)

440. Don't Go Breaking My Heart--Elton John & Kiki Dee (4 weeks, August 7)

441. You Should Be Dancing--The Bee Gees (1 week, September 4)

442. (Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty--KC & the Sunshine Band (1 week, September 11)

443. Play That Funky Music--Wild Cherry (3 weeks, September 18)

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*This installment of number one hits contains two television theme songs: "Theme from 'S.W.A.T.'" and "Welcome Back." To the best of my knowledge, only two more TV theme songs have it #1 since then: 1985's "Miami Vice Theme" by Jan Hammer and 1992's "How Do You Talk to an Angel?" by the Heights. Unfortunately, TV theme songs don't perform nearly as well on the charts as do movie themes.

*"Love Machine" is one of my all time favorite Miracles' records (even though Smokey Robinson had left the group back in 1972). Surprisingly, "Love Machine" was also the very last hit for the group, marking the end of a 15 year period of constant hits.

*"December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)" was the Four Seasons' first #1 hit in a dozen years. However, the group had changed a lot since the mid-60's, given that Frankie Valli was the only original member left. On this particular record, Valli actually shared lead vocals with member Gerry Polci.

*In 1976, the RIAA (Record Industry Association of America) established a new certification--platinum--in order to categorize singles that sold far more copies than gold records. The very first song to be certified platinum was Johnnie Taylor's "Disco Lady."

*The Bellamy Brothers attained ten number one country hits, but "Let Your Love Flow"--their only major pop hit--was not one of them.

*Although John Sebastian scored many hits as lead singer of the Lovin' Spoonful back in the 60's, "Welcome Back" (the theme song from "Welcome Back, Kotter") was his one and only solo hit.

*In my opinion, the Sylvers sound almost exactly like the Jackson Five.

*While five weeks at number one is hardly a record for longevity, "Silly Love Songs" was the first single in over 36 months to spend that much time at the top.

*"Afternoon Delight" drew some controversy due to its sexual nature. Yet, despite the recognition the song received, and the fact that the group won 1976's "Best New Artist" Award at the Grammys, the Starland Vocal Band wound up as a one-hit wonder.

*Aside from the retro sounding "Crocodile Rock," the upbeat "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" is my favorite Elton John song. Surprisingly, it would also be his last #1 hit until 1992.

*Here's a useless fact that almost nobody could care about: "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty" is the only #1 hit in history that has one particular word repeated (as many as) four times in its title.

*The group Wild Cherry got its unusual name after one of its members looked at the flavor of cough drops he was sucking. In spite of the fact that "Play That Funky Music" remains one of the most recognizable songs of the disco genre, it proved to be Wild Cherry's only top 40 hit.

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This isn't the greatest batch of songs in the world and the next segment begins with two of the worst songs ever recorded: A Fifth of Beethoven by Walter Murphy, and Disco Duck by Rick Dees. Thankfully, Chicago's If You Leave Me Now follows those two travesties of recorded music.

You know what I'm going to say: I loved Kiss and Say Goodbye. I love it's phrasing and it's lyrics. It's a "wow" song.

You Should Be Dancing is pure high-octane energy. You may think you can sit still when this song is played but trust me, it's not possible!

I thought the Starland Vocal Band was extremely talented. They had wonderful harmonies and those harmonies made Afternoon Delight a hell of a lot more tolerable. Too bad they won the Best New Artist/Kiss of Death Grammy.

The Sylvers sounded exactly like the Jackson Five and so did a few other boy bands coming up a decade or two later. The original is still the best.

Wild Cherry can also be given kudos for greasing the wheels that let to the end of the career of Vanilla Ice. He essentially got away with sampling the Bowie/Queen tune Under Pressure, but when he sampled Play That Funky Music, Wild Cherry sprang into action when the leader of the group learned that they received no songwriting credits - and successfully sued. I wouldn't even call what Ice did sampling, I'd call it blatantly ripping off, especially with the Wild Cherry track.

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I actualy love Fly Robin Fly but I have a huge soft spot for Eurodisco (even over the more respected American or Philly disco which was less reliant on synths and more based in Funk--Chic, etc) SYlvester Lveay who was the main force behind it went on to do a lot in pop music--he worked with Moroder on Donna Summer s much respected (Rolling Stone picked it as one of the 5 albums of the year ) 1980 post disco Wanderer album, and is now heavily invovled in writing several hit musicals in Germany. The original title for the song was, I kid you not, Run Robin Run. And yes, like nearly all Eurodisco until Moroder and Summer's 1977 seminal I Feel Love, it DID include a real string session and even most of the drums were what now we'd call live (which actually amazingly si true of I Feel Love too). People often forget how talented the session musicans for disco were--in Europe especially often being taken from the best orchestras of their cities.

I always thought Love to Love You Baby finally made number 1 in Spring of 1976 (already being a hit in Europe and the dance charts a full year before-) but it only made number two. Ironic that Love Hangover, which was actually recorded first by Sylvester (not yet a star) and then by 5th Dimension, with Diana Ross' version rushed out to be a hit first, as often happened then, was actually written and produced in some ways as a rip off/hommage to Love to Love You Baby, as producer Hal Davis admitted.

Oh and I actually kinda dig A Fifth of Beethoven though I will speak for nearly all disco fans I know (who tend to prefer the disco that only charted, or was even well known, inside clubs not on the radio0 when I sy Disco Duck is indeed one of the worse things to come out of disco, EVER. Which is saying a LOT

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I could be remembering it wrong, but I think the original title of Fly Robin Fly was actually Run Rabbit Run but I can't recall. I thought I heard it mentioned on VH1's 100 Greatest Dance Songs. The strings arrangement is by far the best part of the song.

I vividly recall when I Feel Love came out. NOTHING sounded like it on the radio. You stopped and listened to it as if you were hypnotized and it sounded like it was coming from the future - it was miles ahead of it's time. Rolling Stone added it to their list of 500 Greatest Songs for just that reason.

Sylvester had one hell of a voice!!

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It was Run Rabbit Run. That's what I get for posting at 5 somethign in the mornign before havign even any coffee... Always sounded so awkward to me.

While I adore disco with real strings--I have to speak up for the much maligned synthesizer--especially back in its infancy, it still took a lot of "talent" to play those synths you hear in a lot of disco (especially Moroder or Cerrone's complex ones--less so the synth line for a simple song like Fly Robin Fly). I just know a lot of music fans wqould use this against disco music (among many other silly excuses) that cuz it wasn't on "real" in struments often, it somehow was easier to make, less musical, or some other excuse. Now I do agree that synths have become a crutch and often are poorly used and not a good replacement for real instruments but that's a different subject.

Yeah I Feel Love still holds you in a trance--I have many friends aroudn my age (mid 20s) who don't get my love for "older" music, let alone disco, but love modern club music--and often you still hear I Feel Love mixed into sets at dance clubs--and it STILL sounds pretty modern--most of my friends hold it as an exception. Moroder did a lot of similar and even more complex synth songs with and without Donna after it (his big hit The Chase from his academy award winning score for Midnight Express came about cuz the director, Alan Parker said he heard I feel Love and wanted a similarly driving but siomewhat disconcerting sound for his movie--)--the album, and club tracks from DOnna's other 1977 album, the double concept album Once Upon a Time--Now I Need You/Working the Midnight Shift have some of the most hypnotic, stunning synthesizer seuqneces I've ever heard.

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IMO, the real strings is what made Fly Robin Fly pay off and turned a mediocre song into a great one.

But as you pointed out, there are a lot of great songs that use synths, like that piece from Midnight Express, which was really awesome. There are some out there that became masters of the keyboards/synth, like Thomas Dolby, Herbie Hancock, etc. There were some groups it didn't work for: When I heard Jump by Van Halen, I said "Someone please take that Yamaha keyboard away from Eddie Van Halen RIGHT NOW." Geddy Lee of Rush is a great keyboardist and they give great live performances except for that time they couldn't get enough of midi-interconnected, which even made Neal Peart's drum solo sound like crap. There was also a lot of old school funk that used keyboards/synths - remember Egyptian Lover?

Speaking of European disco, I was just listening to Snap's Rhythm is a Dancer. That group disbanded because of a clash over musical direction.

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Rhythm is a Dancer is definetly a good example of where eurodisco went after the disco era ended (in the US anyway)...

I LOVE egyptian Lover. Nono I do agree with you--both that Fly RObin Fly needs those real strings and that stuff like Jump was just SOO wrong on so many levels. I think we're seeing eye to eye here ;) But we'll see what yout hink of the next set of charts;)

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Immediately after, Peggy is torn by doubts, wondering if she did the right thing.She confides in Barbara, who then discusses the situation with Ed. He tells her he and Holly have discovered a new closeness now that they are building their separate lives. Barbara quickly contradicts him: Holly is not building a new life. Barbara gently cautions Ed, saying, “People change, feelings change, and what seems right now may not be right a year from now. No decision is irrevocable.” Ed agrees with this. Now that Ben has declared his love for her, Hope finds herself apprehensive, fearing that she might be making a mistake, as she did a few years ago, when she was sure she was in love with her college professor. Explaining that she doesn’t want to make another mistake, she asks Ben to be patient, and he agrees. When Mike expresses his disapproval of Ben’s overstated independence, his need to be beholden to no one, Hope quickly jumps to Ben’s defense, and Mike apologizes. But Ben, surprisingly, accepts Mike’s assessment as constructive criticism. Later Hope, examining her feelings and desires, tells Ben she does love him and wants to belong to him. Later that evening, after they’ve made love, Ben asks Hope to marry him.And, delighted, she replies that she will. At Hope’s instigation, Bert has a family dinner to which Ben is invited, and Hope announces their intention to marry over glasses of wine. Mike politely offers best wishes while Bert thrills the couple with her offer to' make a Christmas wedding for them. Bert later tells Mike he must accept this engagement with good spirits for Hope, and later, seeing the joy she’s feeling, he gives his daughter his approval. But Ben finds another problem on his very own doorstep: his brother Jerry, who announces he’s left home after several bad fights with their parents. He refuses to tell Ben what they were fighting about. As Ben is showering, Jerry borrows his car and goes out for an hour. The phone rings, but Ben can’t hear it. Shortly after, two uniformed officers visit Mike at home to tell him that his late wife’s car has been involved in a delicatessen robbery earlier in the evening. Since Ben bought Leslie’s car, Mike accompanies the officers to Ben’s apartment. Ben curtly informs the police that he had nothing to do with the robbery and makes it clear that he feels they wouldn’t be there if he didn’t have a record and that his exoneration doesn’t prevent his being hassled like any ex-con,as they tell him he has to go to the police station for questioning. Hope tells Ben she called him earlier, and when he replies that he must have been in the shower, she accepts his word unhesitatingly.Jerry finally returns to Ben’s place and under questioning from Ben admits that he robbed the store,explaining that he has debts. Ben is now in a quandary,as he feels he must protect his brother but doesn’t want to be unfair to Hope. He tries to ease the situation by withdrawing $185 from the joint checking account he opened with Hope and repaying the delicatessen owner. He then sends Jerry out of town to stay with a friend. His relief at having solved the problem is short-lived, however, when Mike informs him that, despite the reparations, the robbery was a felony and the police will continue to investigate. Hope is badly upset to learn while making a deposit that Ben withdrew’a sum which Mike tells her is equal to the amount stolen. This shakes her belief that he _was really home when she called, and she goes to him, asking for an answer to put her mind at rest. Ben can’t betray Jerry and asks Hope to trust him, promising she will have the whole story eventually. But Hope can’t accept this; she needs complete honesty and openness in her relationship and without it cannot goon. She painfully tells her father that the wedding is off despite her love for Ben, and tells Bert to stop preparations. Mike goes to Ben, reminding him that half the money in the account is Hope’s and she has the right to an answer. But Ben won’t say any more and refuses Mike’s offer to represent him legally, again stating that he doesn’t need a lawyer, because he’s done nothing wrong.     
    • And not since. I recall it was quite small for a house that size. And I don't know why you would walk down a narrow corridor to get to the main living area. I hate when the sets on soaps don't have a logical layout! As for Andre his clothing is fashion forward and suitable for his character.He ain't gonna wear no blazer!
    • The last I remember seeing Ben, he was divorcing Amanda. He came to tell Evie that he still loved her, but was leaving town so that Amanda wouldn't blame Evie for his divorcing her. I'm not exactly sure when, but Evie doesn't leave town until sometime after Nola and Quint's engagement ball. I'm not sure if she leaves before or after Justin leaves in Sept(?) of '83. I grew to like Helena when she became friends with Vanessa, once she's edging her way out of Quint's life.
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    • It sure was!  With respect, how does that make sense?  These men are young, I don't see that. 
    • I hope this played better than it sounds, because I'm imagining two separate scenes (the attack by Arnie, and later Charles getting shot). In my mind, it should have been a fluid single sequence. I wonder if or how often "bastard" was uttered in this scene. Fare thee well, Christopher Reeve. I've said it before, but pop culture's gain was daytime's definite loss. Imagine seeing HIM day after day, year after year, decade after decade, conceivably until they stopped producing soaps in NYC.   Well, that answers my "bastard" question. Good lord, the roads of Rosehill are packed with high-strung drivers and/or pedestrians. More sequences that I hope played better than they sound.

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    • I think Ben had already left while under Marland and only returned briefly to reconcile with Eve. The whole thing confuses me as I thought for a long time that Eve left the show to go be with him and that was when they reconciled, but it seems like he returned, they got back together, then he left and maybe they were still together until she left to join him? I have no idea.  It does seem like the interim writers were using some characters like Justin and Helena who were quickly dumped under Kobe/Long, which is a shame. Helena is one of those characters who likely always had a shelf life but Rose Alaio was such a vibrant screen presence, if Kobe/Long had just been patient, she likely would have fit in well in the Reva era.
    • Also, the lawsuit story was not the right story to bring Naomi and Bill into a court battle since those types of lawsuits are usually resolved via settlements.
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