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John McCain wants to overturn Roe v. Wade

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Unfortunately, you're misconstruing what "sexual liberation" is. It's not about, "Whee, let's go bang any and everything that moves". It's about being comfortable in the fact that we are sexual beings. It's about the fact that sex is natural. It's a biological instinct we have. Our reason for living at the VERY basic level is to pass our genes before kicking the bucket. We do that through sex. Our culture is based on repression, oppression, and fear. Why shouldn't we try to eliminate that?

Your personal issues are your own. I have a view on them based on what you have posted here, but that's something that's a whole other can of worms that I won't discuss on such a public forum.

Whooooooa, I don't want anyone to think I have "personal issues." I did not mean for a moment to suggest that my view of your definition for sexual liberation reflects my own behaviors. I do have my issues, yes, but believe me, I'm not about to admit to multiple sexual partners in one night or one every week or night, as I suggested in my examples, for the purposes of this thread.

Sorry if there was any confusion. That's just a side note to let you know that's not me.

On topic, I agree that it's a biological instinct.

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Has anyone ever thought that those pushing for abstinence only, overturning Roe vs. Wade, and trying to make sex as dirty and shameful as possible are the ones humping anyone they can, anytime and anyplace?

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Has anyone ever thought that those pushing for abstinence only, overturning Roe vs. Wade, and trying to make sex as dirty and shameful as possible are the ones humping anyone they can, anytime and anyplace?

I agree that SOME people who are pushing this legislation may be doing that (because they realize that sex can be addicting and want others to realize the harmful effects of living just for sex; they're called "sex addicts") but I think the vast majority of those pushing for this abstinence only education genuinely stay committed to that monogamous lifestyle. They see how happy they are from not having to jump from bed, to bed, to bed, worrying about STIs, pregnancies, abortions and the like. And knowing they have stability in their life, with one person whom they can share everything with.

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I agree that SOME people who are pushing this legislation may be doing that (because they realize that sex can be addicting and want others to realize the harmful effects of living just for sex; they're called "sex addicts") but I think the vast majority of those pushing for this abstinence only education genuinely stay committed to that monogamous lifestyle. They see how happy they are from not having to jump from bed, to bed, to bed, worrying about STIs, pregnancies, abortions and the like. And knowing they have stability in their life, with one person whom they can share everything with.

I highly doubt that's the case at all. Everyone has their skeletons and their dirty laundry. Look at Ted Haggard. The head of one of the biggest Christian coalitions in the US. He's a gay meth addict.

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I highly doubt that's the case at all. Everyone has their skeletons and their dirty laundry. Look at Ted Haggard. The head of one of the biggest Christian coalitions in the US. He's a gay meth addict.

Yes, but that's the thing. Secrets ALWAYS come out. I don't care what anyone says. (Oh, wow, that scared me a bit just saying that... :lol: ) The point is, we say "look at Ted Haggard" but the truth is, that's one person. Yes, it's a shocking person. One hell of a shocking person even, but it's just one person. Now, are there more people than him? Yes, of course. But who's to say they're not the exception to the rule? After all, the reason why those people are making news is BECAUSE they're being outed is so shocking, because they don't follow what I believe to be "the rule." Otherwise, it ain't news.

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Yes, but that's the thing. Secrets ALWAYS come out. I don't care what anyone says. (Oh, wow, that scared me a bit just saying that... :lol: ) The point is, we say "look at Ted Haggard" but the truth is, that's one person. Yes, it's a shocking person. One hell of a shocking person even, but it's just one person. Now, are there more people than him? Yes, of course. But who's to say they're not the exception to the rule? After all, the reason why those people are making news is BECAUSE they're being outed is so shocking, because they don't follow what I believe to be "the rule." Otherwise, it ain't news.

The main reason why other people aren't making news is because they're not public figures. Ted Haggard is a public figure. I guarantee, every one has a little dirty secret. The ones who don't are the exceptions.

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