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It was certainly an amazingly long time gap between Bill's drunken rape of Laura one night in the doctor's lounge until the reveal when Mike was a teenager. Mickey was sterile. Only Laura & Tom knew that. If only they hadn't played one of those games "rape or seduction?" Bill Bell, Pat Falken Smith, Gloria Monty, ...

I am re-reading Zimmer's book because I'm looking for a passage. And, I found something I thought I would share. Kim had won her first Emmy the afternoon before. (That's when they had them in the afternoons.)That was her win when she had those garish hair extensions sticking out of her head at all angles. The next day, in the studio, trying to work, Kim was still so excited about her Emmy win that she couldn't get settled into her dialogue. I knew what it was she was supposed to say but she flubbed her lines for 8 times in a row. After that, Beverlee looked right at her, and cool as could be, oozing Southern accent, said, "You give the girl an Emmy and she can't remember a [!@#$%^&*] line!"

OH! She'll be great in that!

They really ran that storyline too long! Their first plans were to cut it off around Easter - at least supposedly. That's what was said at the time. But they were way too out of control. DOOL has a long-term history where the Hortons were Episcopalians and the Bradys, naturally, were Roman Catholic. Remember when Bo & Hope got married in England in a British Episcopalian vestry? But, oh, no, Reilly got busy turning the whole town, the whole shebang, all the people, into Roman Catholics, plopping them down in RC pews, making John Black an RC priest, and Marlena was Devil Doc lording it over all of them - levitating & having glowing yellow eyes. Honestly, all of my friends were DOOL fans at the time and half of them quit the show. And, the ones who quit the show did not come back. No, they went to GH.

That Brooklyn, out there in Brooklyn reputation was so hang-dog. But that studio actually had a lot of high profile stuff created there.

https://deadline.com/2019/09/cbs-head-of-daytime-angelica-mcdaniel-exits-restructuring-1202713488/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Right, Lemay was literally tutored by Irna, even though they didn't get along very well and he only tolerated her for a short period of time. Who was Malone paired with? I knew he got a lot out of his acquaintance with Gottlieb but she was an EP, wasn't she? When Malone was at AW he was on his own -- and it showed!

Haven't seen it in years but I loved that long speech about not wanting to do or sell or make or whatever whatever, etc. when he's out front with the boom box on his shoulders. Also love Some Kind of Wonderful with Jane Eliott in it.

Okay, I think we have her number! Harding "Pete" Lemay may have very well been lightning in a bottle. He could write plays & he could teach at the university level & he could write memoirs but he could write for soaps, too, bigtime! Doesn't seem like she had the capacity. Wonder who talked her into trying it.

Well, she was an Obie and Tony award-winning playwright, who was known for writing very darkly. I think she wrote short stories which were then anthologized, too. None of that spells daytime drama to me.

Bob Short was a P&G man. It was Bob Short who called Pete Lemay to tell him of Irna's death. Lucy Johnson was at ABC & was then moved over to CBS. Laurence Caso was a long-term EP at ATWT. Felicia Mini Behr was an ABC person who was moved over to CBS. Kenneth Fitts was a P&G person. Angela Shapiro was a higher-up at ABC. Young & Rubicam was an ad agency that was involved in the first ownership of AW. So was Irna, her brother Arno, her secretary, Rose, and Bill Bell, etc. A whole year went by before P&G actually owned AW. When people were moved over from ABC to P&G/CBS it was referred to as the abc-ification of the network.

Fred Silverman was early at CBS Daytime and then moved to ABC Daytime. While he was at ABC Daytime AW had ratings in the 8s and GH had ratings in the 7s and he hired Gloria Monty as EP at GH.

Great pictures of him! In addition to what you've shown I enjoyed him in Mulholland Drive. Wasn't he in Heroes, too? What a loss.

That's simply not true. For starters, spamming is not an issue of accuracy. And beyond that I post more accurate information than not. Since I first got here you've taken a dislike to me. Whatever your reason is for that, you're entitled to it. But, I don't have to see it without replying to it.

Are you intimating that I have spammed threads? If so, you're wrong. I haven't spammed anything anywhere.

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Corinne Jacker was a disaster, wasn't she? That year, (1981) Ms. Jacker’s career took a different turn when she became head writer for the NBC soap opera “Another World.” But she quit after one season. “I hated it,” she told Mr. Wishna. I hope that both Jensen & Zimmer can both pull themselves up out of the deep holes they're in. It would be too much to imagine that they could work again, although Zimmer has worked some in theatre. Watching Wednesday's Chicago PD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Daytime John Rohrbeck Vice President of Daytime Programming 1991–1996 Gave Another World another shot to improve ratings and offered them an extension on their contract and instead first, Generations was canceled in 1991 and then Santa Barbara, 2 years later in 1993. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian FronsVice President of Daytime Programming1983–1991Under his leadership of NBC Daytime, he brought in several new game shows such as Dream House, GO!, Hit Man, Hot Potato, The Match Game – Hollywood Squares Hour, Time Machine, Your Number's Up, and Wordplay – all were canceled due to low ratings and neither lasted more than just one season. The only games that would make it pass season 1 or more were Sale of The Century (1983–1989; revival of the 1969–73 original, which also aired on NBC), Super Password (1984–1989), Classic Concentration (1987–91) and Scrabble (1984–1993). He canceled the long running daytime version of Wheel of Fortune (1975–1989). He also added a new soap opera Santa Barbara (1984–1993). He canceled Search for Tomorrow in December 1986, after it was on NBC for 4 years. Frons previously work for Search For Tomorrow, while working as the head for CBS Daytime. Frons appeared as God on Santa Barbara in a dream sequence involving Mason Capwell (Lane Davies). He helped Santa Barbara garner three daytime emmys for best drama series and brought the short-lived soap Generations (1989–1991). Brian Frons appeared as god in a dream sequence on SB. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Daytime Laurence Caso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Caso

Angelica McDaniel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_McDaniel In 2010 she joined CBS as VP of daytime programming, overseeing the launch of the network's first daytime talk show, The Talk. In February 2012 Angelica was upped to SVP and became network TV's youngest Head of Daytime. During McDaniel's rookie year as head of daytime, CBS nabbed 51 Daytime Emmy nominations and 21 wins, more than any other network. In this newly created role, McDaniel continues to oversee CBS Network's top-rated lineup in the day-part (daytime dramas The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, game shows The Price is Right and Let's Make a Deal, and the entertainment talk show The Talk), as well as development for all new first-run programming at CBS Television Distribution (CTD), the industry's leading domestic syndication company. She is also in charge of developing new series across all traditional and new genres of programming for the syndication marketplace. Angelica McDaniel was fired from CBS on September 5, 2019. So Angelica McDaniel is no longer the Vice-President of Daytime Programming at CBS, CBS got rid of her position altogether, so there won't be a successor for her position.

Oh, I loved Mel! Good actor!

On Sept. 22, I said: Unfortunately, not much time passed before Brian Frons canceled SOAPnet, AMC & OLTL. On Sept. 26, Raven Whitney said: In fact, worst exec in modern times should go to Brian Frons. https://deadline.com/2011/09/susan-lucci-blasts-abc-daytime-chief-over-all-my-children-cancellation-as-she-is-yet-to-commit-to-continue-on-the-show-166716/ Susan Lucci Blasts ABC Daytime Chief Over ‘All My Children’ Cancellation As She Has Yet To Commit To Continue On The Show By Nellie Andreeva Nellie Andreeva Co-Editor-in-Chief, TV @DeadlineNellie September 3, 2011 11:01am All My Children star Susan Lucci has some blistering parting words for ABC Daytime president Brian Frons as her soap ends its 41-year run on ABC this month. In a freshly written epilogue to the upcoming paperback edition of her memoir “All My Life” obtained by the New York Post, she blames the show’s cancellation squarely on “some very bad decisions by” Frons. Among them, according to Lucci, the 2008 hiring of Chuck Pratt as head writer, which led to “subpar” writing on the show (he was let go a year later), the 2009 relocation of the show from New York to Los Angeles, and the pushing out of AMC creator Agnes Nixon. “I watched Brian Frons’ decisions destroy the production of our show and the lives of people on both sides of the country,” she wrote, adding that he has “that fatal combination of ignorance and arrogance.” As for the soap’s cancellation to be replaced by a cheaper unscripted show, “an iconic show was losing out to greed,” Lucci wrote. “I cannot fathom any network executive choosing to alienate millions of loyal viewers in these economic times.” Frons recently told Deadline that the protests over the cancellation of All My Children and fellow ABC soap One Life to Live demonstrate that “we actually did a good job for all of these last 40 years. I think we’ve spent 40-plus years trying to keep the soap-opera audience happy. So in an odd way, (the outcry) is actually good. It’s just sad that we don’t have a solution.” https://serialdrama.typepad.com/serial_drama/2011/12/serial-dramas-best-and-worst-of-2011.html https://ew.com/article/2011/04/14/abc-brian-frons-all-my-children/ soapfan770 Posted September 8 Actually glad to see Angelica McDaniel go the way of her predecessors Barbara Bloom and Lucy Johnson. Even better yet, like Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin(remember the MADD one?) at P&G her position is pretty much eliminated altogether. Micromanaging meddlesome exec's, whether it was Johnson or McDaniel at CBS, MADD with P&G, John Rohrbeck, Susan Lee, and Sheraton Kalouria at NBC, or Angela Shapiro and Brian Frons at ABC are all that helped kill the daytime soaps with their very short-sighted and self-fulfilling agendas. McDaniel's support has always been suspect; championing the work of MAB, Pratt, and then pushing the Rosales family in to replace the Winters were all horrible. She will not be missed. ABC and NBC haven't had any specific daytime exec for years; the CBS daytime lineup, while ailing, will be fine without one. Sad to say, unless their are extremely drastic changes I just don't see the current CBS Daytime lineup existing in its current form beyond 2021. Unlike GL which is the only soap I considered that really did die of natural causes as opposed to the typical shocking cancellation, Y&R and B&B still have a lot of life left in them but it would actually take a lot of drastic change, focus, talent, energy and even perhaps a change in format & delivery to save them, something I just don't see happening either unfortunately. soapfan770 Posted September 8 Actually glad to see Angelica McDaniel go the way of her predecessors Barbara Bloom and Lucy Johnson. Even better yet, like Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin(remember the MADD one?) at P&G her position is pretty much eliminated altogether. Micromanaging meddlesome exec's, whether it was Johnson or McDaniel at CBS, MADD with P&G, John Rohrbeck, Susan Lee, and Sheraton Kalouria at NBC, or Angela Shapiro and Brian Frons at ABC are all that helped kill the daytime soaps with their very short-sighted and self-fulfilling agendas. McDaniel's support has always been suspect; championing the work of MAB, Pratt, and then pushing the Rosales family in to replace the Winters were all horrible. She will not be missed. ABC and NBC haven't had any specific daytime exec for years; the CBS daytime lineup, while ailing, will be fine without one. Sad to say, unless their are extremely drastic changes I just don't see the current CBS Daytime lineup existing in its current form beyond 2021. Unlike GL which is the only soap I considered that really did die of natural causes as opposed to the typical shocking cancellation, Y&R and B&B still have a lot of life left in them but it would actually take a lot of drastic change, focus, talent, energy and even perhaps a change in format & delivery to save them, something I just don't see happening either unfortunately. Micromanaging meddlesome execs were surely some of the worst of the 1990s and 2000s. Personally I don't slap a natural causes death on GL. GL tried too hard to be new & different & to win.

This is from THE SURVIVAL OF SOAP OPERA: TRANSFORMATIONS FOR A NEW MEDIA ERA. Edited by Sam Ford, Abigail de Kosnik, and C. Lee Harrington. University Press of Mississippi/Jackson. © 2011. I have permission to share it with you from both Patrick Erwin and Sam Ford GL Relevance and Renewal in a Changing Genre by Patrick Erwin [Maybe this would work: https://www.amazon.com/reader/1617033170/ref=rdr_sb_li_hist_1&state=10112#reader_1617033170]

Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin, nicknamed "Mickey" since childhood. She is an American television network executive. Accolades include recipient Maggie award for television documentaries Planned Parenthood Federation American, 1982, Ace award for best magazine show, 1983, Clean Air Week award American Lung Association, 1989. Member National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (board directors 1985-1987), National Cable television Association (chairman Ace awards committee 1983-1984). https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/1240445 Dwyer-Dobbin initially stated that no soap opera would be canceled under her watch; however, that promise was broken when, in 1999, Another World was cancelled after 35 years on television. This decision appears to have ultimately been made because NBC and Procter & Gamble could not agree on the fee NBC would pay for the show; nonetheless, viewers blamed Dwyer-Dobbin. (That is the first time i have ever heard that as a reason for cancelling AW. Has anyone else ever heard it as a reason?)

Mary-Ellis Bunim (RIP) was both a Producer and a network Exec. She produced at different levels at SFT, ATWT and SB. Then she became associated with Jonathan Murray where they formed Bunim/Murray Productions. It was best known in daytime drama space by a reality "character growth/life coach" show, STARTING OVER, where they housed a half dozen women in a place to work on their lives. In primetime they did REAL WORLD and various shows like ROAD RULES and music management. STARTING OVER was probably best known for the wisdom of Iyanla Van Zant.

Around the globe Procter & Gamble Co. products take consumers from cradle to grave. Pampers diapers cover babies' bottoms and Ivory soap floats in their bathtubs. Crest toothpaste brushes their teeth and Tide detergent washes their clothes. Folgers coffee starts the workday; Duncan Hines cakes mark each birthday. The Cincinnati company is an American success story. A share of P&G stock purchased in 1986 hsd appreciated 159 percent by 1992---more than double the Dow Jones Average growth rate---and the company has increased dividends to shareholders for 36 years in a row. All told, P&G goods are found in 98 percent of all kitchens and pantries. P&G's invention of selling competing brands has been duplicated to sell everything from Cadillacs to candy bars. P&G, which popularized consumer advertising and daytime soap operas, has built an empire partially by reinforcing stereotypes about women as subservient to men. P&G's standing as the country's largest advertiser gives it a stranglehold on Madison Avenue. Armed with a $2.15-billion annual advertising budget, the company blankets the country with messages about Ivory purity, Downy softness, and Scope freshness. Those massive P&G accounts offer steady work in a tumultous industry, but the soap company controls virtually every aspect of its ad agencies' work. It has tried to block mergers between agencies and moved multimillion-dollar accounts when its wishes weren't obeyed. Even account managers get locked into restrictive P&G agreements that limit where they can work after doing business with the company. P&G tried its soap opera format on daytime television. Their first daytime soap was "The First Hundred Years", launched in 1950. It lasted only a month. But, P&G tried again with "Search for Tomorrow" and a TV version of its radio show, "The Guiding Light". By the mid-fifties it had thirteen different soaps on the air. The company was criticized from the start about the sappy content of its ads and TV shows, but P&G believed it was in the business to sell soap, nothing else. "The problem of improving the literary tastes of the people is the problem of the schools," said CEO Neil McElroy in 1953. P&G consumers "aren't intellectuals---they're ordinary people, good people, who win wars for us, produce our manufactured products, and grow our food." He then added, "They use a lot of soap." P&G's G-rated nature is hypocritical considering its continued sponsorship of the daytime soap operas "Guiding Light", "Another World," and "As the World Turns", which all portray marriage as disposable as diapers. For example, in a typical episode of "Another World" the women sob about their tortured love lives. P&G has moved into new markets in China & Russia & they've sent their old traditional soap operas there, too. "Search for Tomorrow and "Guiding Light".