Everything posted by Contessa Donatella
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
Or even in real life!!! 🤔😉😜🤣🤏
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RIP: In Memoriam Thread
Yesterday's GH last image. I know some people missed it because of a pre-emption at the end of the show. Brought it home to me, again. I just can't seem to shake my feelings of grief about Tyler. Well, at least we can honor him. What a song! Great legacy.
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
You might as well be speaking for me, too. While I admire Bell & also have such great memories of his storytelling at DAYS, Y&R has just never done it for me. In the past 3 years I have watched Neil Winters tributes, the Teriah wedding & one other special Teriah day, Chelsea's suicide & I'm watching the show daily right now.
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
It can't be helped. The moment someone says Lynn Marie Latham there's a Pavlovian response! I'm waiting to hear about shock & awe! 😲🤣
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
Yeah, I was laughing last night at how quickly it devolved from, Bill Bell the gold standard to typical bitch session about Y&R,[
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
I get confused all the time! Life is getting unconfused about one thing. Then losing something & taking 3 days to find it. Then forgetting what it was you were just going to do .... but then, I'm 72. You'll have to come up with your own excuse! 🤔🙃😧🤪😶
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
You're serious? Okay, I'd say characteristics: coming out of the blue, suddenly taking over a big chunk of the show, unrelenting, bringing a previously unknown plan into existence, corralling Cole for some reason, practically using up all the oxygen in the room .... I think, almost fear, we are in for the ride of our lives. Something about this "call me Jordan for now" persona is reminding me of Kathy Bates in that #1 fan movie.
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
Oh, yeah, and she had 3 proteges, thank god! And, if I had to guess who her favorite was It was this gentle man who she looked to for assistance creating Another World, you got him, William J. Bell.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
Also she said this story is going to "steamroll" right through the show. I thought she meant it was gonna come on like gangbusters & keep it up till this BIG DAY 12-26. After today I think I understand the steamroller concept a mite better!!
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
There are notations as far back as an absolute protest by Doris Hursley about interference with some aspect of her writing that she considered just one push too many! And, contemporaneous to that Irna complaining about interference with ATWT by those idiots in Cincinnati! I've said at times I preferred the P&G soaps because they tended to have large casts, which I liked, but got them in trouble & because their presentation was close to a proscenium stage, so the most like a teleplay. "The genre’s first auteur, an eccentric writer/producer named Irna Phillips. Invented her 1st daytime network radio serial in 1930 at the age of 31 & then went on to create many of the biggest titles in radio and TV. She churned out 2 million words a year." - Sex & Death in the Afternoon: An Oral History of the American Soap Opera
- General Hospital: November 2023 Discussion Thread
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Another World Discussion Thread
I remember so little of Justine. It started off well. Its end was very bad. Her driving that truck. Her talking while she was bricking up Vicky in the wall.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
Thanks SO much for that clarification! I think of them as a cartoon character that is always jumping up & down & saying READMEFIRST. I like cartoon characters that are sitting down & saying, "Hey, when you get a minute, you might like this."
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
Well, CBS let him. Basically they let him be an auteur. There was only once as far as I know where they ever said no to him. They blessedly left him alone. No one else was given that luxury. Not even close.
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Primetime Soaps
Blog 259 Streaming Classic Soaps effective Nov. 27, 2023 Many classic soaps are known to have episodes on tape, in warehouses, or other storage. Very likely they are not digitized. To be streamed they would have to be cataloged & digitized just to be streamed in chronological order. To market them by storyline, etc. would require more in editing & creating titles & segues, etc. This applies to most defunct daytime soaps including ABC/Disney and P&G. If anyone has any info about the ownership or whereabouts of any classic soaps, please pass the info along! 90210 the reboot. 5 seasons. Prime Video, CW & CWseed ABC soaps: AMC, OLTL, RH, CITY, PC, LOV are owned by Disney & it's not known whether they would have any interest or not. AMC & OLTL were warehoused together & they lost 5 seasons each, also to a fire. ALL MY CHILDREN See ABC soaps. The Prospect Park AMC reboot web episodes are now being streamed on Hulu, Hulu Plus & are available on ITunes as well. They are half hour long. ANOTHER WORLD See P&G soaps. AS THE WORLD TURNS See P&G soaps. BEVERLY HILLS, 90210, 10 seasons; 10 seasons each, Prime Video & Pluto; 1 season, appletv. Fans report dissatisfaction with the generic music being used. BOLD & BEAUTIFUL current episodes on CBS & streamed on Paramount Plus. B&B has a classic feed up on their own YouTube channel & it begins with Episode 1. Beautiful channel & so well-organized. CAPITOL was owned by John Conboy Productions & is now owned by the John Conboy Foundation. No information. THE CITY See ABC soaps. COLBYS has a complete 2 season channel on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrrfZs-ew7NZttDuMb3BUolp-HbBBnpk CORONATION STREET Hulu is streaming current 12 days behind. DALLAS, 1978, 14 seasons. 13 seasons on FreeVee; 12 seasons on appletv DALLAS the reboot 3 seasons. appletv DARK SHADOWS 12 seasons. all 1225 episodes are streaming on FreeVee. 12 seasons on tubi, Pluto, freevee; 4 seasons on redbox; 1 season peacock, peacock premium. DARK SHADOWS primetime reboot 1991. 1 season. Fubo & Roku. DAWSON'S CREEK 6 seasons. appletv, CW, Prime Video, Disney DAYS OF OUR LIVES Current soaps are streamed on Peacock Plus which maintains 2 seasons. Classic soaps are warehoused except for one season which was lost to fire. No classic episodes are available. THE DOCTORS was owned by Colgate-Palmolive who sold it to NBC. All but the very last few years are being shown by RetroTV & can also be seen via IT'S REAL GOOD TV. Available on Roku & other devices. The RetroTV website lists cable outlets that carry it. Twice daily, midday & 6:30 & a block on weekends. Also they are removing the copyright credit line. Reason unknown. Makes it difficult to date some episodes. https://www.itsrealgoodtv.com/ https://www.getafteritmedia.com/retrotv DYNASTY, 1981, 10 seasons. 9 seasons Pluto & appletv; 2 seasons Prime Video EDGE OF NIGHT See P&G soaps. FALCON CREST, 9 seasons, 227 episodes; 9 seasons, FreeVee; 4 seasons appletv GENERAL HOSPITAL Current soaps are broadcast on ABC, shown on abc.com and streamed on Hulu. Classic episodes from 2018, Season 55 called General Hopsital Spotlight are up on https://abc.com/watch-live/unlocked-general-hospital-spotlight GENERATIONS owned by NBC. No information. GOSSIP GIRL is on max, apple, hulumax, Roku, Google Play, VuDu, Amazon & Microsoft. GUIDING LIGHT See P&G soaps. KINDRED: THE EMBRACED, excellent short-run, only 8 episodes, vampire soap is available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzovi87vDfzLiv_-xg5wV5RO0hY3uNKuC KNOTS LANDING is not streaming anywhere but JustWatch.com has it in their database so you can sign up for them to let you know. Latest information is that the hold up is music rights. Knots Landing is one of the top 10 most wanted shows that is hung up because of music rights. According to Errol of SON KL is being worked on. LOVING See ABC soaps. MELROSE PLACE, 1992, 7 seasons; 7 seasons each, Prime Video, appletv MELROSE PLACE reboot 2009 only 1 season. appletv THE O.C., 4 seasons; 4 seasons each, Hulu, Hulu/max, appletv ONE LIFE TO LIVE See ABC soaps. OLTL: The Prospect Park OLTL reboot web episodes are now being streamed on AppleTV and are available on ITunes as well. They are half hour long. ONE TREE HILL 9 seasons. Hulu & hulu/max 9 seasons; appletv 8 seasons P&G soaps are considered hopeless because P&G has said they're not interested to streaming companies that have approached them. P&G soaps begin with 1979-80. Somerset & Texas would presumably have all episodes. PARADISE FALLS fully available on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLecklOwGnUiqRZTeP_7hQrV7oGtOno_tQ PASSIONS owned by NBC. There is a complete PSSN YouTube channel up. Find it by your hostess's YouTube ID: @melissamosley9749 PORT CHARLES See ABC soaps. RITUALS, a syndicated show, was distributed by Telepictures. 1 season of 260 25-minute episodes. Telepictures is now a subsidiary of Warner Brothers Television Studios, which is owned by Warner Brothers Discovery. No information. RYAN'S HOPE See ABC soaps. SANTA BARBARA was owned by the Dobsons who sold it to New World which was bought by 20th Century Fox which was bought by Disney. No information. SEARCH FOR TOMORROW See P&G soaps. SOMERSET See P&G soaps. SUNSET BEACH owned half by NBC & half by Spelling. Spelling Entertainment, the tv catalog in its entirety is now owned by CBS. Does that mean that SUNSET BEACH is owned jointly by CBS & NBC? TEXAS See P&G soaps. TITANS, 1 season, FreeVee YOUNG & RESTLESS current episodes on CBS & streamed on Paramount Plus. Y&R has a 3 season classic feed up on Pluto which begins with 2018 & is Mal Young's HW tenure.
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
@Khan A Summer Place? Really? Those people are so awful.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
No, he's suggesting something different, a Soap Opera Weekly Magazine but I honestly do not recall such a thing. Wait, SoapsShe Knows is not legit? What is this twitter account & I will help you look.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
I don't recall such a thing. Did it resonate with you? I don't see anything anywhere that makes me think Colleen is desperate about anything! Much less about the Guest Actor Emmy. It's been 13 years since she was a regular on ATWT & what I get out of what she's saying is how happy she is to be at work again. She's done some plays & she moved from NY to FL but this, a character, scripts, rehearsals, taping, it's gotta be her heart's desire!
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Primetime Soaps
After doing a blog on streaming classic soaps, I did a quick scratch tally: appletv has 10. FreeVee, Prime Video & YouTube have 5 each. Pluto has 4. I just think it's a fair significance.
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ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?
I've been thinking about your topic a great deal. If we ask who was the best creator & most prolific, it's Irna. If we ask who got the most awards & accolades in their lifetime it's Agnes. If we ask who is said to have had the best imagination it is James Reilly. If we ask what was special about his writing at DAYS it is the memorable nature of the Mike Horton paternity secret & reveal lasting 8 years or so. If we ask what was the most special thing about his writing at Y&R it is that they left him alone & let him do his thing. No one else ever got that grace. And, as soon as he died the show was immediately subject to micromanaging. But also he had the distinction of the most #1 Nielsen ranking & because of that we have to say he earned more money for his network. He & Irna & Agnes all 3 called their people by their character names not by their own names. He & Irna & Agnes also wrote by acting out the parts before they were written down. Unfortunately he joins the ranks of writers who have had women fall in love with their rapists. When Pat Falken Smith was his #2 she argued with him over this - to no avail. He joined with Agnes & Claire in believing the half hour format was perfect. That is the one time that CBS did not honor him. My earliest memories of specific stories are his, at DAYS. Like most visionaries, he held his own opinions & his own counsel to be better than others. He never lacked for confidence. The best way I can honor him is to talk about one or two of his stories at DAYS. Now I apologize for giving so much preface but I am fascinated by him. I'll be back with specific story discussion. This is a verbatim account from Maureen Russell's book, the chapter on Storylines. p.82 Moreover, Julie searched for attention in all the wrong places. She fell in love with the older David Martin, and they became secretly engaged. However, Julie was soon devastated to discover that her best friend, Susan, was carrying his child. Susan married David with the understanding that they would divorce once the baby was born. Julie even agreed to act as maid of honor at the wedding. Susan never intended to keep her promise. However, Susan's happiness was short-lived as her infant son, Richard, died in an accident on a swing while David was watching him. A grief-stricken Susan, blaming David, shot and killed her husband! Meanwhile Bill Horton had fallen in love with a fellow intern, psychiatrist Dr. Laura Spender. Their joy was cut short when Bill developed tuberculosis of the hand. Fearing he would be unable to remain a surgeon and feeling unworthy of Laura, Bill left Salem and moved to Pine Grove. While in Pine Grove, Bill met Mark Brooks, the town doctor. Mark recommended the surgery and therapy that eventually saved Bill's hand. Bill knew he was cured when his surgical skills saved a young boy from death. Bill's confidence was restored and he and Mark returned to Salem. When Susan Martin went on trial for David's murder, she was defended by Mickey Horton. Mickey soon found himself falling in love with Susan's psychiatrist, Dr. Laura Spencer. Susan was acquitted on grounds of temporary insanity, and the bond that Mickey and Laura had formed in their common defense of Susan led to their marriage. When Bill Horton returned to Salem, he was shocked to discover that his brother was married to the woman he loved. Working together at the hospital only increased the tensions between Bill and Laura, and one night, in a drunken stupor, Bill raped Laura. Laura soon discovered that she was pregnant, and a horrified Tom confronted her with the news that the child she was carrying could not be Mickey's. Unbeknownst to everyone save Tom, Mickey was sterile. Laura told Tom of the rape, and they vowed to keep their secret. Mickey was thrilled when “his” son, Michael, was born. ... p.83 ... Tommy, meanwhile, rediscovered his meddlesome wife Kitty and their daughter Sandy, both of whom had returned to Salem. Kitty found a tape that had accidentally been made of Laura discussing her rape with Tom Horton. Kitty intended to use the tape against Bill and prove Michael's true parentage. Kitty and Bill struggled over the tape, and Kitty, who had a history of heart trouble, collapsed and died from a heart attack. Bill kept silent during the trial to protect Mickey from the truth of Michael's paternity. Bill was convicted of manslaughter and sent to prison. While in prison, Bill Horton met con man Brent Douglas. Paraphrase: When Brent was released from prison he headed right for Salem to try to relieve the widow Martin of some of her money. He began calling himself Doug Williams. Susan saw right through him & hired him to romance Julie away from Scott Banning. But, at first meeting Doug fell head over heels in love with Julie. That day a great love story began. ... End paraphrase. After Bill returned from prison, Laura discovered the truth of his refusal to testify in court and his struggle with Kitty Horton. Filled with compassion and love for Bill, Laura testified before the medical board and got Bill’s license reinstated. Laura and Bill were in love but they did nothing about their feelings out of respect and love for Mickey and for each other. Paraphrase: Mickey was suspicious & turned to Linda Patterson & had an affair with her. She became pregnant & wanted to say the baby was Mickey's but Laura told her about his being sterile. She married the real father, Jim Phillips, and they left town. Marsha Mason had been on the show a very long time! Mickey had health problems, heart attacks & a stroke & he also got amnesia & wandered off. He ended up at Maggie's farm. His people found him & Michael would go out there to be with his father & there was a farm accident & Micheal was hurt badly & rushed to the hospital & needed a transfusion so that day Mickey found out he was not Mike's dad. The secret had been kept for 8 years. These 2 stories Julie/Susan/David/baby Dickie and Bill/Laura/Mickey/Mike are what I think of when I think of the excellence of Bill Bell Sr. They are also what I first remember watching live. Dec 29, 1967 Mickey & Laura wed. Feb. 7, 1968 Bill raped Laura. Feb. 8, 1968 Bill said he didn't know what he was doing. Laura said she could turn him in to the hospital & ruin his career. (But, she did not.) Nov. 1968 Mike was born. Feb. 1976 Mike needed a blood transfusion.
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Days of Our Lives: November 2023 Discussion Thread
Thanks! I am going to have to try that out! Okay, I don't know what is the cancel thumbnail. And, today I watched at 10 & missed the daily script writer's screen & I am pissed. Dadgumit. Who knows who wrote today's script? Otherwise, the show: Dimitri in bangs? Oh my. But I did love the way he went after Sloan. Nicole: OMG! How wonderful that she is so sure it's her baby. And, what great stuff for Ari to play. And, I am so pleased they're not going to charge Ava. All in all, I found today to be a good episode. Remarkable.
- Days of Our Lives: November 2023 Discussion Thread
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Ratings From the 90's
Ha! People have scoffed at me for saying she wastes no time, hits the ground running & does something to put her mark on the place on whatever she considers her first workday! The lady knows what she's doing putting the fear of god in folks upfront. Later on, she can, and does, show a human side.
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Ratings From the 90's
FWIW, I have it in notes that she began as HW in 1990 & cont'd through 1994. Of course it could be a discrepancy over nothing more than script dates & air dates. If the holiday show's credits show Pam Long, that was written in November, likely. Just a thought. Wendy Riche's concept was literally to begin & end the day with the hospital. She was having breakfast with Pat Fili Krushel & suggested either bookending or bracketing (I forget which word) with the hospital's West Wing full of interns.
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Y&R: ATWT alum joins
Venicetheseries is gearing up to produce Season 7 & she will of course be in that. If you haven't seen her in it before, her character Guya is a total hoot & a half & Seasons 1-3 are on YouTube free.