Contessa Donatella

Oh, you're welcome! I wish I'd thought of it. I could've added 😉😉 WOW. Then, medically, do they also have to have insurance for & pay out of pocket for each IVF procedure? Because I recall that really adds up.

@John Just in case you missed what I posted. Now I know you don't like hints, ... too bad. Have a nice day.

Recently in the Locher Room Colleen Zenk mentioned that in the 90s some PTB did not like Barbara Ryan. Going by what else she said, if it was a writer it would be someone pre-Hoagie. And I guess if it were an EP that it would have to be Felicia Mini Behr. Does anyone have any good guesses? And I see that you are in the throes of storyline & character analysis & I do not meant to de-rail anyyhing. Maybe this could be a side discussion?

At this point I'm going to copycat CG.

According to Pete, the Ewings & the Corringtons were taken from him, not the other way around.

I was screaming at the TV to Ava NOT TO burn it!!!! Other that that, here you are today, thread comic: nina common sense. Punch Line! Cue Laughter.

Darn it. Forgot. Happy Birthday to Rena Sofer

I don't hate Nina but I do have a serious dislike of her ways & means! I don't hate Carly either. I actually like Carly. I realize this means I'm supposed to turn in my GH fan ID card. We are supposed to hate one of them! I don't even hate Sonny & the gummi bear mob & the docks & the underbelly of Port Charles but I really do dislike Sonny. The only exception is that I like him as a father & a parent & a co-parent. I actually admire the weird relationship Sonny & Carly have. It's very grown-up of them & neither of them is very grown up in general. Child James is adorable. Violet makes me violently ill. James is the icing on the cake of the redemption of Cody Bell. I really don't want Krissy to be a surrogate. I really want her to be busy with the club & her project & a growing romance with Blaze. But, I must grudgingly appreciate the great sister drama that played out yesterday. I dislike the show philosophy being so much about women having to have babies. I'm great with the FinalMolly actress but not so great with Molly going from someone unconcerned with children a year ago to being fanatical now. Stranger in town having a burger at Kelly's was a clever way to finally put a face on Pikeman. Now, still in the spirit of caring, they did some important taping this past week & Maxie was suitably dressed in this great black dress & she looked fabulous & they issued her call to come to the set & she freaked out at the last minute & changed into some very ordinary black pants & an ugly big black sweater. So she went from panic to calm but others just had broken hearts again. Sigh. So we are forewarned that she's going to stick out like that veritable sore thumb. Blast it.

In the Irna Phillips universe there were small cities clustered near each other. They were Oakdale, Illinois [ATWT], Flat Rock, Centerville, Somerset, [itself] Bedfordtown, Brookville, Ogden, Centerville, Bay City, Illinois, [AW]. – Donna L Bridges (These were supposed to represent the actual bedroom suburbs around Cincinnati, where P&G's International Headquarters were.)

It's that special time of year when eagles come to this town in Alaska. Last year they had 911. The record is 3000+ but it was years ago.

🤣🤣 Nancy was 8! Oh, well. I honestly do not recall any older women pregnancies but Ada's and at the end-ish Victoria, of course.

Ada? I can't remember when she got pregnant with Nancy.

Beverly Penberthy was a huge loss & a loss that was so unnecessary & they easily could have brought her back but then they didn't capitalize on that either. It was not only a blunder, but a compound blunder!

That works because it was in 1982. Why is Illinois bad? Or just bad because Michigan had previously been mentioned? It is bothering me that they knew to teach Pete how to write for soaps but somehow forgot that knowledge for Jacker! Of course, Pete was very vocal about not knowing how. Hmm. Maybe she was so busy saying what they wanted to hear that some facts got missed. Yes, I am very dubious about her account of herself.

I recall pointing this out last week.

Exactly. One post here is not like the others. Petite women who have bosoms look matronly & are top heavy.

And Cecile was already there, back like 1978 maybe.

It's pretty accurate to say that with soap fans if you please one segment, you displease another. So, yeah, anything where you have some folk going WOW, wait 15 minutes till someone else declares it totally without merit! Fortunately it is possible to have a sense of humor about that seemingly inevitable irony.

It is so totally problematic that he told her it was too soon for him & instead of waiting with him, she strikes out on her own & doesn't tell him.

Ken Corday: William Bell (creator of The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful) had a great quote: “Give me a great script, two wonderful actors, and a waterfall—and who in God’s name needs the waterfall?”

Am I the only one cynical enough to question whether that statement is true?!

My notes on Sally Sussman as guest on THE CHAT podcast, week of 1-20-23. She was a fan first & she turned her hobby into a career. The first soap she watched was EON. Then The Secret Storm. Next, AMC, where she began with the first day. She also began watching Y&R on its first day. Bill Bell was always her hero. When she was 26 she was in a CBS Writer's Development thing & they were assigned to write a bible for one of the shows on the air. She wrote 4 stories for Y&R. Bill Bell loved them & loved her & 2 of those stories made it on the air. Right off he asked her what she liked about the show & also what she did not like. She told him. He agreed with what irked her. Good writers do not mind criticism because it's not personal. Too many today take it personally. Make the audience want more. Make them want to tune in tomorrow. It is about the journey not the pay-off. Bill Bell learned that from Ted Corday & Irna Phillips & she learned it from Bell. This was in 1982 & she got along fabulously with Kay, Jack, Elizabeth Harrower, etc. But, it happened to be a bad time for the show. The show had gone from a half hour to an hour. At some point CBS decided they were the creative arm, which they were not, and Sony just went along with whatever. That Writing Team, headed by Kay Alden who was Bill's pick to write the show after him, all were fired & the show was handed over to Lynn Marie Latham. When she's been back, which was two times, she's been micromanaged down to the second. Things she did: Devon & Hillary; Devon getting stopped by a cop, etc.; "Teriah" initial attraction & first kiss. CBS reaction apoplexy!! Y&R has an older skewing audience & CBS PTB worry about doing anything controversial. Now: They have no money. There is no money for sets. They will not move sets, change sets. Extremely difficult for Writers to juggle storylines with the sets being the way they are. What were her favorite characters that she created? Lauren. The entire cast of Generations. At DAYS Mike & Carrie as a couple. What stories were hers? Deena home to the Abbotts, Buried Alive, Stalker, 1984 when Eve poisoned …, Jill's heart attack although she didn't get to do it as she'd have liked because Jess doesn't want to come in much. At DAYS Sami's execution. She said she saw a little moment between Christie & Roark that gave her the idea of putting them together. She said it is imperative that writers watch the show as that is the only way you will see things like that. She respects Reilly but personally doesn't like the scifi stuff in soaps. She also said she did an early sexual harassment story. Spyder Games had a fixed ending set from the get-go & that was a challenge to be writing with that in place. At GH Michele Val Jean & Elizabeth Korte had been named co-HWs & Wendy Riche asked her to consult. She did for 13 weeks only because Jill wanted to provide the writers with outlines that they would write to. Never heard of that much less did it. Outta there as soon as that 13 week cycle was up. About Emmy reels. When you do 250 shows per year not every show is going to be a winner. But, you hope 100 are. And, you definitely should be able to find 2 for an Emmy reel. About DAYS streaming on Peacock. Bravo to them. This may be a blessing in disguise. Be interesting to see if the rest go that way. GH will have an easier time of it than Y&R. Migrating to streaming from the network broadcast way. Y&R might have challenges going to Paramount Plus. Also older audience might react with fear that they'd have to go out & buy an Apple TV. Probably NBC to NBC UNIversal to Peacock was easier. She doesn't watch the show. She does read fan boards. They are a barometer. Watching & loving it - great. Watching & hating it - still great. Not watching - not great. Ffing Ffing Ffing - not great. The show "meh'' - not great. Advice to current & aspiring writers: Really be inside your characters & be true to them. Be daring & bold. Think big picture, whole cast, balance storyline & couples & suspense versus romance. KNOW your ending. Know who the killer is. DO NOT WING IT. Problems shows have simply because they've been on the air so long: Everyone's related. All inner-connected. Complacency. Scifi stuff. Boring doppelgangers. Pandering to an audience is terrible. Dumbing down is terrible. Oh, I forgot two important things: Soap people are the hardest working & the best people of all people! And, the job of Headwriter is harder than any other job anywhere, anytime! One more thing that I forgot when JFP was hired as EP she wanted to bring on Megan McTavish! One #SoapKiller wanting to hire another.

AFAIK neither Nancy Curlee nor Patrick Mulcahey are employed.

From Eddie's page: Corinne Jacker and Robert Cenedella, November 9, 1981 - December 1981 (In 1981, with Barbara Hamilton Bauer, Myra Sofronksi, Jeffrey Sweet, and Peter Swet) Corinne Jacker, December 1981 - November 1982 (In 1982, with Barbara Hamilton Bauer, Robert Cenedella, Myra Sofronski, Jeffrey Sweet, and Peter Swet) (In 1982, with Barbara Hamilton Bauer, Edward Clinton, Lloyd Gold, Leslie Lee, Jeffrey Sweet, and Peter Swet. Dorothy Ann Purser as Story Editor) Cass 1st appearance Jul 1982, so she created Cass. That's all I got. Does that jog anything?