Contessa Donatella

Definitely & she may be the first runner-up or Miss Congeniality. Also she may be a truth teller & she seems formidable. Pamela & Vanessa & the woman with the blonde curls at the diner who I believe cleans houses, are praise soap buddha all 3 white folks non-blacks that are blessedly interesting.

Thanks again for the reply. Later on I recognized Martin but not at first.

Would've done so without being prompted to!! Since you won't be able to hear my screams over this distance!

News to me. Still together?

HBIC looks like a bad name for a new bank 20 years ago. I'm sure that is not what it is. But, wht is it? I would guess Head B*tch In Charge.

She looks FABULOUS!!!

Thanks again for the reply. That's what I thought. I love the things Michele Val Jean is exploring in dialogue. We actually had conversations about the use of violence to solve problems on Tuesday after Dani punched Hayley at the end of Monday. And, here they talked about why NOT to have sex & then did anyway. It's a level of complication that we don't usually get & what fun!!! And, I am all in for them both having sex & talking about it!!

This show has me so excited, I may be jumping at shadows!!! Or worse seeing something nefarious which is instead just usual good manners??

Thanks for the reply. I was aware of all of that but to me it was just Vanessa doing her job. Not something to thank her for. I was jumping to a conclusion that it was some more dark kind of secret. Overactive imagination!!!

But, she didn't win an Emmy for Y&R. That's the list I was posting.

Yipppeee! I fell in love with her portrayer. It may have been when I read her memoir, Murdering My Youth. For 2 years I've been posting the first person to win 3 Daytime Emmys for 3 different roles, on 3 different shows, on 3 different venues & they were all recasts! (Dixie, AMC, ABC/Disney; Rosanna, ATWT, CBS; Jennifer Rose, DAYS, Peacock.) This week Errol surprised me reporting her new BTG character is original. If I can ever get my hand to work I can go back to watching AMC.

Brilliant!

Yes, I, too first knew her as Jessica. Me, too. Only knew him from Amen & it's terribly different. I had to giggle at the idea that Daphnee first read for Dani! Try this https://beyondthegates.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters I tried to send you a PM but you don't do that.

I love the layering in the characters, as has been discussed. I also love the way they're using split screen. A question: why did Hayley thank Vanessa for her "discretion"? Another question: early on Vernon in conversation with some guy who wanted "more" who was that? Yet another question: Naomi & Jacob did I understand correctly that they had sex a second time that morning? They talked about how he didn't have the extra time now that he's a detective & no longer a beat cop but THEN didn't they go again, anyway? The first time, in those grey sheets it was so attractive, the way the sheets were draped & the revealed body parts. The direction on this show is top notch! Did no one else notice that part of the time the gates have the crests on them & the rest of the time, no crests are there!!! with crests S1E1 @ 10:00

Bette Davis is one of my personal favorites of her time period, for several reasons. She was quoted as saying, "Old age is not for sissies." which is like a mantra to me and she was a huge soap fan, daily, without fail, watching both AW and ATWT. Supposedly she offered Val Du Four, who was a friend of hers, advice on how his AW character Walter Curtin should deal with other characters & I LOVE that idea.

I was never in any way correcting you. To me that doesn't even track. There's nothing to correct. There is no wrong. There is nothing to admit.

Thanks, I DO NOT have all these character names down yet!!!

Talking on message boards is of necessity back & forth. But, there's really no need for it to be a problem. I very plainly said that I could see them as friends in the sense that you described & I added that I had been looking more at "best friends". So, if it's a problem, then my advice to you is scroll on by. That's what I've been taught. Personally I enjoy lively discussion. And, I'm sure you saw what I said about Dani having detractors ...

There's not really a problem.

Imagine Me & You is a British film & they can do things we don't seem to be able to. Not going to spoil anything about it. The other two are classics.

I keep forgetting to post about my girl, Cady. For 2 years now I have touted her being the first person to win 3 Daytime Emmys, for 3 different roles, on 3 different shows, on 3 different venues (2 networks & 1 streamer) and they all were recasts! Now, Patricia is an original character! AMC, Dixie, Disney/ABC; ATWT, Rosanna, CBS; DAYS, Jennifer Rose, Peacock. Also I most fervently hope it's not a fake-out. It was just a dream! No, please no.

Oh, there's basically no way that Dani won't have detractors. It almost comes with the territory. The kind of character who provokes strong reactions, feelings, etc. And, I agree that she & Hayley were friends in the sense you describe. I was speaking more about her best friends, which I think probably was her contemporaries. No, I understood what you meant. Dani is complicated & part of that in her is def shallowness. This is a woman who left home at 16 & became a high fashion model. Superficial things were lifeblood to her. Completely agree about both favorites emerging as well as ?? anti-favorites?? You got me started on this Olympic judges type of scoring, ranking, etc. So now you're just going to have to put up with it from me.

I'm sticking with my "new creatures" theory. So, no comparison, breath of fresh air, NuSoap IOW, NuAesthetic ... I was a huge fan of Greenleaf & to me the only thing reminiscent is the audio of the opening. True they both have that family dynasty (not the primetime soap) but Greenleaf is so much about religion & sin & reckoning. BTG is not. It's unpopular with me. And, I don't get the impression that Hayley & Dani were friends. Now, friends with Dani's daughters, yes, there I see it. Hayley could be Dani's daughter. They are not contemporaries. Finally, Dani hasn't lost me, no, she is still my 2nd favorite, after Anita. This reminds me I want to rank characters again.

Barbara Rush, AMC, Nola Orsini Nicholas Pryor, PC, Kevin's father

I did screen captures of the soap actors in the SAG 2025 IM segment, which I thought was excellent, kudos, job well done. I'm sure I've left off someone ...