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I loved his GH work but he sucks at Y&R. Even now that he uses older scores again

Every time I start watching Days they get rid of all the people that make it easy for me to tune in for.

On 7/7/2020 at 10:35 PM, titan1978 said:

I will give later era Guza some credit for this- they had started to address how much damage Sonny’s life and the choices Jason/Carly/Sonny make had done to many people.

This is why I loved the show so much then. You had real consistent long term history and character motivation playing out. Mainly because of the writers room which we lost that when Guza exited.

Jonathan Jackson, especially in his return run.

Allison Sweeney owns the worst list. Never a tear in sight

On 6/20/2020 at 4:41 PM, BillBauer said:

 

 

I thought it was weird that he didn't know Katie was Casey and Lyla's daughter since she was such a huge character in the last decade or so but I guess that makes sense if he has poor pre-1997 knowledge since Katie didn't talk about her parents much. How sad to only have knowledge of the show after 1997 when it was at its worst. 

Katie always felt like a forced  character for me because of her botched and non-existent backstory with her legacy parents. She would have been a stronger character with that

Yeah I like her better in the role

Nancy St Alban was the worst Michelle, blech. Love seeing Paul and Laura together

I went through a GL YouTube binge and I forgot Lucy Cooper was ever a thing.

MAB era was such trash, my goodness. I remember all the soaps being so at this point but I couldn't even stomach her stuff. In hindsight I get that she was going for the 80s slight psycho thriller feel but everything about her execution was putrid. She filled the show with bad stunt casting and wrecked so many long term roles with bad stories. For me this era is the worst of the worst.

Daisy  

Destruction of Jana   

Sharon stuck to pervert Adam like a battered woman    

Badly SORASed legacy characters   

I do miss the production value of the sets though. JFP is the one who hacked that down.

I feel like this group of characters always come back together and then get plopped off a few months later. I'll tune in though nothing better to watch

Nick and Sharon were completely played out by the early 00s, that's why they felt the need to kill Cassie when they did and why whenever they get paired back up now its never long term. JM and SC have amazing chemistry but the writing has always made it hard to root for them IMO

That era with Gwen, Will and them as the young set was my favorite. I loved it all so this reunion was nice to see.

I loved Jennifer Ferrin too one of the few genuinely great young leads from that time

I was finally home to catch a classic and its a MAB era 

No other writer drove me away like her tenure

I didn't detect any real shade from the Kim Zimmer mention, Laura and Kim got along well and she has openly admired and admitted to borrowing a lot of her acting style.

I'm still confused on how an actress like Rylan ever got cast as Lulu, someone like Jen Landon after JMB would have been a much better fit

16 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Lol I went to great lengths to get to the near bottom of the SON Boards to pull this post from 12 years ago:

 

 

Wow  I miss a lot of these old posters

On 4/2/2020 at 1:27 PM, KMan101 said:

 

Ahhhh! Yep. That's what I thought! ALW should have been Sarah. Courtney didn't need to exist, lol. I was so happy they finally got rid of her. Wonder why and how Frons and JFP finally let her go?

ALW had been wanting to quit from the time TB left lol...Frons and JFP were dead set on recasting (Erin Torpey, Lauren Woodland, and Erin Hershey tested) but Guza sold the idea of Courtney dying during the Monkey Virus pandemic. I wanted the recast but we ended up with CarJax so I didn't mind.

Nate's hair is terrible lol, the top isn't shaped properly. He should chop it low and keep a line and tape until it grows long enough where he can fade the sides and maintain the style he's going for better.

Josh Henderson and Pamela Rebecca were the best parts of the last reboot, retool the whole thing around them and add Gary and Val's twins or something to get the show going. Absolutely agree with @Chris B about getting another writer too, Cynthia Cidre sucked at that CBS show she had and she sucked with Dallas, get someone who understands the core hook of the show being the dysfunctional family dynamics and fight for control of Ewing business.

3 hours ago, Chris B said:

That is my biggest problem with Josh Griffith. It’s not so much that his ideas are bad, but he always goes for the least dramatic direction a story can go in. Watching it is like going to work. You just get in your routine, do what you gotta do and go home. There is nothing to look forward to. I’m happy I got to tune in for Victor’s anniversary but I’m out afterwards. 

This is where I'm at too. Even Sharon's cancer story which started off interesting is very paint by numbers. I don't mind predictable run of the mill stories so long as the ride is fun but we're not even getting dynamic performances (Stafford seems bored, MCE is lacking her previous passion since the chem with this Adam isn't there, JT doesn't even seem to know wtf he's even playing, etc) or big payoff moments so its all just a lot of blah. Lola and Kyle's marriage is over and she's waltzing around nonchalant like she missed her hair appointment. He's already screwing Summer and she has barely a reaction when she sees them cuddled up???? This is a soap play the drama more, play the beats!

This Amanda story finally got interesting with her interaction with Ripley. They need to somehow keep playing that edge with her, its what MM does best

This Adam has brought the lurch factor back to the character, I don't like it tbh and the partnership with Chance is lame and a snooze as is Phyllis' involvement 

The Sharon cancer story is alright because SC is a decent actress and her side of the canvas has history to be played off of. Very run of the mill story though

I hope they have Victoria finally get rid of that ugly blue living room for good with this Billy breakup being played how it is

I'd rather watch Kyle with Summer and Lola with Theo  so I'm tolerating their material a lot easier

Good riddance!

I wish they'd stop bringing Robert Adamson back. Noah is the legacy character they need most for the next generation but RA brings nothing to the table

We need Meg Bennett back in the writers room!

I'm mad this still isn't on a streaming site

Wow at her knowing the whole time they filmed this project. Damn this sucks

Enjoyed reading your thoughts @Brolden  you are making me want to give the show another rewatch

Jo and Billy had an interesting dynamic season 1, I remember she used to call him Bill all the time. Definitely would've been an interesting pairing

Darren Star said on the DVD's that they got rid of Sandy because it was annoying having to write a character in show business. I liked her once they killed the accent, the episode where she gets a stalker and the one where she got a part in a movie and forced to take her top off are two of my favorites from season 1. I'm in the group who always liked the young adult moral of the week 90210 format of that season. Like @te. pointed out once Darren leaves they lose that element of morality and realism and its when the show ventures too far into nonsense camp. Still watchable but not as interesting, especially with the cast departures happening soon after.

In theory this should have been a much easier show to keep going with cast shifting but the newer character were never developed well they just got launched into stupid stories to fill the void of the ones they were replacing. Sam, who is probably my least favorite character of all time was the last one to really get properly folded into the show dynamics but she sucked lol, just awful and such a blatant replacement for Jo.

Allison and Billy are also my favorite couple in the show and I still feel robbed we didn't see them end together. The episode where they first have sex is another all time favorite and the triangle dynamic with Amanda I think is one of the shows best.

Doug Savant and the show don't get enough credit for Matt being one of the first gay characters you saw prominently on a show. 

Aw man I LOVE Michael Mancini lol both the nice guy and sleaze ball he turned into. Jane is another favorite but they went too far into not wanting her to be written as a victim.